Topic: Cyber bullying
msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 09:54 AM




He was so adorable...

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 09:55 AM

How about the first person to take the conversation out of context and say, " *You* (2nd person) are a jerk?"


laugh the name-calling is part of it, though it makes me smh when grown folks sink to such childish tactics,,,

Beachfarmer's photo
Thu 04/06/17 09:57 AM
So judgmental. :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 10:01 AM

So judgmental. :tongue:


blame my brain, it just keeps thinking, observing, and assessing things,,,,,


I just can't make it stop,,,,laugh

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 04/06/17 11:21 AM

I have found it easier to be pleasant and pleasing about it for a while, but after it builds up and becomes a pattern, it seems a matter of being foolish to expect a different outcome by doing the same 'diplomatic' thing.


You do yourself no favor by engaging in the same kind of behavior that the other person is engaging in.

no photo
Thu 04/06/17 12:31 PM
Is trolling a form of bullying.

Or let me put it this way, if someone is trolling or attention seeking, should they then complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected.

no photo
Thu 04/06/17 12:34 PM

Is trolling a form of bullying.

Or let me put it this way, if someone is trolling or attention seeking, should they then complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected.


Yes.

No.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 04/06/17 01:26 PM

Is trolling a form of bullying.

Or let me put it this way, if someone is trolling or attention seeking, should they then complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected.


Surely, nobody on this site would "complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected." :tongue:

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 01:46 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/06/17 01:48 PM

Is trolling a form of bullying.

Or let me put it this way, if someone is trolling or attention seeking, should they then complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected.


in short, yes, if someone is seeking attention by way of discussion and is instead bullied ,they have every right to 'complain'


just as if someone (a spouse or child) seeking attention can complain if that attention is a slap in the face, rather than merely an answer to a question they were asking

or someone seeking to attract someone with certain dress ends up with 'attention' that equates to being raped,,,

seeking discussion, is a form of seeking 'attention' that does not justify any FORM of attention received

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 04/06/17 01:48 PM
As I see it, people can act like trolls without realizing it. glasses

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 01:50 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/06/17 02:07 PM


I have found it easier to be pleasant and pleasing about it for a while, but after it builds up and becomes a pattern, it seems a matter of being foolish to expect a different outcome by doing the same 'diplomatic' thing.


You do yourself no favor by engaging in the same kind of behavior that the other person is engaging in.


You do yourself no favor by allowing them to continue bashing on you either. If it becomes obvious that the spectators are all going to watch ,and some join in to assist the attacker, and not step in to assist you, it makes more sense to start fighting back,, at some point.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 02:05 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/06/17 02:11 PM

As I see it, people can act like trolls without realizing it. glasses


Yes. Especially in public forums where, though EVERYONE posts topics for the 'attention' of the discussion, but some points of views or topics with the wrong person gets them the easy and dismissive label of 'troll'.


like beach and I having a lovely back and forth with no issues until the implied insult that posting the issue was, in effect 'asking for it'.

no photo
Thu 04/06/17 05:16 PM

Is trolling a form of bullying.

Or let me put it this way, if someone is trolling or attention seeking, should they then complain when they get the attention they want but not in the way they expected.


Bingo.. they want to be in the spot light.. can't stand it when they are not. And create any chance to bring attention to themselves.

Then complain when people don't agree with them

But I suppose if your life revolves around a keyboard.. maybe that is all the attention you can get.

Kind of sad.

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Thu 04/06/17 05:49 PM

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 06:09 PM
The way I see it, by virtue of posting in an online forum

everyone wants to be 'seen', on some level,,,


but the name calling personal attacks, and distractions don't help further the conversation,thats all




Dodo_David's photo
Thu 04/06/17 06:41 PM

The way I see it, by virtue of posting in an online forum

everyone wants to be 'seen', on some level,,,


but the name calling personal attacks, and distractions don't help further the conversation,thats all






That last image comes across as being snarky.
Being snarky just adds fuel to the fire.

msharmony's photo
Thu 04/06/17 06:45 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/06/17 06:45 PM
yes, I did agree to be more submissive in my replies

perhaps I will defer to this instead


peggy122's photo
Fri 04/07/17 07:04 AM
Edited by peggy122 on Fri 04/07/17 07:10 AM


Im trying to understand the accusatory tone of some of the comments here.

If someone has an opposing view to the OP or to one of the respondents in a thread, is there an unspoken rule about the number of times a person is allowed to voice their opposing view?

I thought the only rules of engagement involved staying on the topic , and keeping the communicatioñ respectful ,
and you are ALWAYS classy and respectful in your correspondence Ms H flowerforyou

Can someone explain to me how voicing an opposing view repetitively is placed in the same category as trolling?

And furthermore, isnt the troller and the victim of trolling accorded the SAME power to disengage from a conversation with the other, if both consider the other person or their viewpoint to be poopy?

What I suspect , (and I admit to not having a Phd in trolling) , is that either one /both parties refuse to disengage because neither wants to be perceived as weak /wrong ,OR one/ both wish to incite other respondents to jump in and give credence to them or their ideology.

Im an opinionated person myself and a passionate debater ,as are some of the respondents in this thread, but the difference is that some oppose a viewpoint, and some ATTACK THE PERSON with the the view point.

The first, is totally in line with what this forum was constructed for.

The second is derrogatory , unfair and completely out of line


msharmony's photo
Fri 04/07/17 07:27 AM
THAT was the point I was trying to make as well Peggy. Thank you.

peggy122's photo
Fri 04/07/17 08:08 AM

THAT was the point I was trying to make as well Peggy. Thank you.


Anytime Ms H :)