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Topic: 3 False Virtues: Perfection, Indifference, and Comfort
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Mon 04/10/17 02:10 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 04/10/17 02:10 PM
a very cool read, edited for brevity

http://badassu.net/three-false-virtues-perfection-indifference-comfort/

So I've talked about the roots of all virtue: truth, love, and freedom.

But people often replace these with false alternatives. False, because, while they seem to be good things to strive for, they don't give you what you truly desire: connecting with others. Instead, they give more of the two evils.

Let's take a look at each virtue and their fake counterpart.


1. Truth vs Perfection : Who needs the truth when everything is perfect?

The false virtue isn't so much perfection but perceived perfection.



2. Love vs Indifference: Being indifferent to life, emotions, love, and the truth, is praised as a virtue by our warped society. Deny your feelings, smile, and just tough it out. That’s just asking for trouble.



3. Freedom vs Comfort: "The lust for comfort kills the passions of the soul." -Khalil Gibran

Farm animals versus wild animals: The farmer keeps you fat and safe so he can ultimately eat you. It’s the farmer’s happiness, not yours, that matters at the farm. The wild animal's fate is no different (to die), but he was fully alive in his life.

Who do you want to be?

Comfort is the great drug of the western world.


Do you struggle with false virtues?

I can relate to #3. I try to keep a safe existence for myself and my kids. Safety is my comfort zone and prolongs the lives of myself and my loved ones,, but I have to consider that it may be worth seeking a FULLER life with more risks even if it creates a shorter life SPAN. Is it better to live a long existence, or a short but full LIFE?



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Mon 04/10/17 02:21 PM

a very cool read, edited for brevity

http://badassu.net/three-false-virtues-perfection-indifference-comfort/

So I've talked about the roots of all virtue: truth, love, and freedom.

But people often replace these with false alternatives. False, because, while they seem to be good things to strive for, they don't give you what you truly desire: connecting with others. Instead, they give more of the two evils.

Let's take a look at each virtue and their fake counterpart.


1. Truth vs Perfection : Who needs the truth when everything is perfect?

The false virtue isn't so much perfection but perceived perfection.



2. Love vs Indifference: Being indifferent to life, emotions, love, and the truth, is praised as a virtue by our warped society. Deny your feelings, smile, and just tough it out. That’s just asking for trouble.



3. Freedom vs Comfort: "The lust for comfort kills the passions of the soul." -Khalil Gibran

Farm animals versus wild animals: The farmer keeps you fat and safe so he can ultimately eat you. It’s the farmer’s happiness, not yours, that matters at the farm. The wild animal's fate is no different (to die), but he was fully alive in his life.

Who do you want to be?

Comfort is the great drug of the western world.


Do you struggle with false virtues?

I can relate to #3. I try to keep a safe existence for myself and my kids. Safety is my comfort zone and prolongs the lives of myself and my loved ones,, but I have to consider that it may be worth seeking a FULLER life with more risks even if it creates a shorter life SPAN. Is it better to live a long existence, or a short but full LIFE?





#3 Is something I often reflect on too. To me, it seems that rather than being concerned about society in general. Many focus on their place within it. I find this approach unproductive, indeed counter-productive. As the saying goes, "No man is an island."

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Mon 04/10/17 02:24 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 04/10/17 02:24 PM
I agree, seems best to reflect upon both.

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Mon 04/10/17 02:28 PM

I agree, seems best to reflect upon both.


We're encouraged to be selfish.

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Mon 04/10/17 02:43 PM
I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...

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Mon 04/10/17 03:02 PM
I'm not sure I agree entirely with the source blog (or whatever it is), but I very much support that careful scrutiny is in order whenever someone ELSE starts trying to tell you HOW to calculate how honest, virtuous, and so on that you are.

It is extremely common for duplicitous people to FEIGN support for various ideals, while constructing a system to "support" those ideals, which actually ignores or even destroys them entirely.

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Mon 04/10/17 03:06 PM

I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

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Mon 04/10/17 03:10 PM


I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...

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Mon 04/10/17 03:20 PM



I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...


No gossip was not what I meant. I spoke of the lies the mass media constantly feed us, which are often believed to be facts.

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Mon 04/10/17 03:28 PM




I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...


No gossip was not what I meant. I spoke of the lies the mass media constantly feed us, which are often believed to be facts.


its worse than lies, its half truths and lies mixed together...i would read or watch more than one source, and piece it together the best you can...

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Mon 04/10/17 03:31 PM





I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...


No gossip was not what I meant. I spoke of the lies the mass media constantly feed us, which are often believed to be facts.


its worse than lies, its half truths and lies mixed together...i would read or watch more than one source, and piece it together the best you can...


That is usually the tact I take. I only wish there were enough hours in the day to learn it all. However, most are happy to accept the mistruths they are sold.

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Mon 04/10/17 03:50 PM






I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...


No gossip was not what I meant. I spoke of the lies the mass media constantly feed us, which are often believed to be facts.


its worse than lies, its half truths and lies mixed together...i would read or watch more than one source, and piece it together the best you can...


That is usually the tact I take. I only wish there were enough hours in the day to learn it all. However, most are happy to accept the mistruths they are sold.


i generally tend to believe RT more than the others, they seem less biased, IMO...

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Mon 04/10/17 04:04 PM







I wonder why they left out honesty there... We are encouraged to lie and give false sense of comfort to give someone else a false sense of comfort... Nobody wins in that scenario...


I'm not so sure. We're encouraged to spread propaganda which we're meant to believe are facts. Is this quite the same thing?

you mean gossip? i guess that's an inherent need to be "part of the conversation"...

people seem to forget that everyone's "facts" are different, what might be true and just to you isn't always someones else truths... if we both read a same story, we both interpret it differently... nobody is actually right or wrong, but in our own minds...


No gossip was not what I meant. I spoke of the lies the mass media constantly feed us, which are often believed to be facts.


its worse than lies, its half truths and lies mixed together...i would read or watch more than one source, and piece it together the best you can...


That is usually the tact I take. I only wish there were enough hours in the day to learn it all. However, most are happy to accept the mistruths they are sold.


i generally tend to believe RT more than the others, they seem less biased, IMO...


I concur

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Mon 04/10/17 05:41 PM
Do you struggle with false virtues?

The ones presented in the OP source?
No. They're silly.

Is it better to live a long existence, or a short but full LIFE?

Depends on how capable you are in valuing what you have.


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Mon 04/10/17 05:46 PM
gossip: casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

so funky is correct in lumping in the false narratives often found on various media venues,,,,which pertain to talking about people,,,(and most do)

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/10/17 06:30 PM

gossip: casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

so funky is correct in lumping in the false narratives often found on various media venues,,,,which pertain to talking about people,,,(and most do)
you must watch TMZ...

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Mon 04/10/17 06:44 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Mon 04/10/17 06:45 PM
I am staying in my comfort zone!
:as she kneels down and beats the floor like a child...
an has a tantrum ...who does not get their way ...laugh


interesting thoughts ... happy

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Mon 04/10/17 07:11 PM

I am staying in my comfort zone!
:as she kneels down and beats the floor like a child...
an has a tantrum ...who does not get their way ...laugh


interesting thoughts ... happy
I can lie to you and make it all better, if you like...ohwell

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Mon 04/10/17 07:13 PM


gossip: casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

so funky is correct in lumping in the false narratives often found on various media venues,,,,which pertain to talking about people,,,(and most do)
you must watch TMZ...


lol, nah Can't stand grown folks gossiping,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/10/17 07:15 PM



gossip: casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true.

so funky is correct in lumping in the false narratives often found on various media venues,,,,which pertain to talking about people,,,(and most do)
you must watch TMZ...


lol, nah Can't stand grown folks gossiping,,,,
that has to be the worst show ever put on TV... maybe Jerry Springer too...

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