ok, if you say so, so be it....

but i think you're saying the same thing as i said..
just a matter of semantics...

See, thats understandable. In a way you are correct but in a way I am also correct. The sematics comes with your definition of truth and reality.

I see reality as something that is and can't be changed by idealisms or attitude or understanding.
I see truth as something that flexes according to assessments.

When you see someone that is deluded, you know they are deluded (not implying anything).
That delusion to them is their reality. If you witness this, it is understandable that one could think that reality is mutable. You know their reality is not true (the truth). Your brain associates truth as reality because that is how you understand the meanings of those words from your observations. His reality is not the truth so reality can't be the same definition as truth. Its a word association thing that gets in the way.

Reality is defined as the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.
Reality exists whether people exist or not.
Reality exists whether it is assessed, agreed or accepted.
Reality requires no proof, it just is.

Truth only exists if people exist.
Truth is:
the quality or state of being true. - an assessment
that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality. - an agreement
a fact or belief that is accepted as true. - an acceptance
All which is dependant on humans to assess, agree or accept
Truth requires proof.

yes....now if you would, point to one of the 3 shells under which
you think, is the pea i have hidden from you ...after relieving you
of one your dollars i will reveal the absolute truth to you
that the pea is not under any of the shells, but safely tucked
into my vest pocket...

So the reality is the pea is in your pocket and the dollar is still in mine because the truth is ... I don't care where the pea is.

In the physical world a thing is itself as it has form shape, density and substance. In the emotional domain our feelings have validity in that we experience these as truthful ( subjective) but can easily be challenged by others who do not experience this same subjectivity. While the feeling is genuine in its experience it does not need to be substantiated with another person as some will agree with its veracity while others report an different emotional experience. Hence the difficulty just as dogmatic and extreme beliefs have great emotional intensity they do not necessarily have consensus thereby leading to great conflict and debate. If there were a way to reach affective consensus the solution to global conflicts as well as individual conflicts could be resolved as it is, we are in a contradictory and adversarial reality. The physical world has an objective reality whereas the cognitive world has much greater contradiction, ambiguity, vacillation, and multidimensionality with a diversity of interpretations/

I agree.
Humans have many truths that have nothing to do with an objects reality.
Concepts that influence our lives. One example is the truth of a situation.
Complex sets of behavior, attitudes and emotional states that changes how we acknowledge reality. The reality exists but we 'see' it differently as a truth.

What absolute truth? If a brick falls ten feet and hits you on the head. is that the truth or was Einstein correct and say if you view it from a different frame you will see that the object did not fall and ws merely an illusion.

Odd give me an absolute truth. One plus one equals two. Wrong can show one plus one equals any number you wish.

First of all, the brick didn't fall. It was pulled by gravity.
Since speculation is not the truth and any frame that you might see it is a supposition because you can only actually see it in one frame any illusions you might consider are false.

Absolute truth is something that is supported by reality, nothing more/nothing less.


One UNIT plus one UNIT equals Two UNITS
What composes the units is not important.

1+1 can also equal 1
1 man + 1 Woman = 1 couple
1 Hydrogen atom + 2 Oxygen atoms = 1 water molecule.

Mathematics can only be an absolute truth when the Units are defined.

I totally agree that 'truth' is relative. If you were to measure something - temperature, height, length, current, voltage for examples you need a reference point. How do 'measure' morality? It defers from a community to a community especially when it involve different race, culture and religion. So what is out reference point?

Our common reference point is sapience. The baseline is species. The environment is Earth. The time is now. Life conditions are current. Existence is shared.