Good Evening my lovely people of Mingle2, lovely night, my last forum on " Judge Offer A Deal" forum in here in the political room. I love it when you guys voice. Before we get started I had posted a nice topic and I was told it was flagged not of me but you guys was going in too deep. you guys have to watch what you say & how you treat each other. If not I'm be flagged and that wouldn't help anybody. So lets keep it cordial & voice. Now that's out the way There's an article on black police chiefs quoting " We are not thugs". What that means is you gave the green light to officers to ruff or toughing up people during arrest. I have to admit I have mixed feeling of this. On one hand, if you really being a real thug and you got caught then you being argumentative or not cooperating with authorities, then you get what you paid for sort of speak. But if you ruffing people up because you can well that's not cool dude! Then it goes on explain that Jeff Sessings told Trump after his use of force quip, then told trump to be lawful. An other words, ruff em' up but afterwards, treat him with standard procedures. What the....what is that America, so let's talk how you feel about this ordeal? Is he out of line or maybe you feel hey that's what we need for our country to be tough on crime & potential criminals. You know teach em' a lesson type of thinking. Maybe you on the other side of the fence where you might of been a victim of senseless crime and you support extra credit policing. Let me know how you feel about this.

Thank You Sincerely
EyeAmYourHost39

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EyeAmYourHost39,

Okay, America, like I said in the intro of this, mixed nuts about this. But at the same time you don't need to use excessive force to handle suspects unless your life feel like its in danger. But lately its a norm to see cops on TV man handle a suspect. The Kicker is Trump allowing it and sessings tell Trump after your officers kick his *** then go back to the standard way so it look like he resisted and you had to do it.......BS to me!

Hey Eye


Trump allowing it is BS, Obama allowed it for longer? Much longer I'd say

John111,

Welcome back it's true Trump is doing this, Sesssings gave him way to clean it up or to cover himself when officers use too much force. secondly, Obama was no better, fourth we talking our president now. He's wrong, I never support Trump in anything he does, I don't care what people will try to convince me about the good in him, hell no! just a week and a half ago many travel to Washington to voice there concerns about ending the affordable care act which is still Obama Care. So that's how I feel about him.

John111,

Welcome back it's true Trump is doing this, Sesssings gave him way to clean it up or to cover himself when officers use too much force. secondly, Obama was no better, fourth we talking our president now. He's wrong, I never support Trump in anything he does, I don't care what people will try to convince me about the good in him, hell no! just a week and a half ago many travel to Washington to voice there concerns about ending the affordable care act which is still Obama Care. So that's how I feel about him.

I can see that, it's obvious

Dig deep Eye, you might be part of the prob? Just like those who couldn't see any good coming from Obama, that was wrong and still wrong imo

If they do not resist and do what they are told then no force should be used....

But if they are resisting from getting handcuffed ect then yea I'm in full agreement for an Officer to do what ever is needed to put those handcuffs on them..

They have a choice it can go easy or it can get rough..

Cops put their lives on the line every day just like our Military. Why should they not be able to protect themselves.. Not saying that it will always go by the book.. They are just like anyone else, there are good and bad cops and there are cops that will get out of control when it comes to using the force that is needed..

I'm not saying let them go out like Billy Bad Azz I'm saying let them be able to Protect themselves and get the ones off the street that need to be..

Just make sure you have a Chief of Police that watches when force is being used and it is investigated as it should be.. to make sure that excessive force is not being used but the correct amount that was needed at that time.. Most have body camera's now as well as on the cars and well every one with a cell phone that happen to be around...

John111,

John buddy listen, If you follow my past political forums when Obama was president. I commend him on his healthcare plan but in a lot of ways he killed just many people as his predecessors. I never said he was a saint, but lets be frank here Trump isn't for the people than some may think. He's destroying this country and causing foreign lands to back away from us.

TxsGal3333,


I certainly agree but there are officers that will use more force than they should , you got to know that?

TxsGal3333,


I certainly agree but there are officers that will use more force than they should , you got to know that?

Correct and I did as well state that in my above response as well as the solution~~ Police Chief is over the Police Officers anytime a suspect comes in with complaining of being abused or noticed marks on a suspect those cases should go straight to him/her to be investigated and dealt with.. Police Officers have rules to follow that goes with that badge..

Speaking as a neighbour north of the boarder, I was always lead to believe that a person was innocent until proven guilty. And, if that suspect is beaten and injured, then found innocent, how does that look? How does that make others feel about the justice system and law enforcement?
Of course, if a suspect is resisting, he must be safely subdued. I do not disagree with that.
If people want to see corporal punishment, then it should be done by law. Because every time someone goes over the line, that is one more kick to the law.. and if there is no respect for the law by even the law enforcement personnel, it will soon start to break down throughout the whole of the country.
If something needs to be done different, have the law changed..
just my thoughts..
Have a great day..

If you are rude to the cops, run, or resist being detained then I have no problem with them roughing you up. I don't understand why they don't use pepper spray or other non lethal weapons more often? When BLM marched out on the freeway in traffic I couldn't understand why they didn't use tear gas, spray them with water, or use bean bag rounds on them? And as far as the use of cameras, they do no good unless they are actually turned on and working. In the case of the Somoli cop that shot and killed the Australian woman in Minneapolis a couple weeks ago there was no car or body cam footage of the incident and she was the one who called to report a crime. A few weeks before that a Black Minneapolis officer shot two unarmed dogs in their own yard and fortunately there was security and body cam video of that, however besides public outrage I don't believe that much came about the case. Often times it a matter of shoot or be shot for officers and they only get a split second to get it right. They may have taken the Rodney King rough up a little too far, but I see no problem with cops roughing people up when they are giving them problems.

TxsGal3333,

So then Jeff Sessings say after you ruff em up then do the regular standard procedures. Huh.......what's that all about? I tell you, its about wrong doings.

TVCameraman,

Hey welcome back its always good seeing in my forum room. So let me assess what you wrote so something similar to this topic happen at the mexican boarder and he was found to be innocent. Is im in those lines? If those cops would of used assessive force and got off which seems to be the norm nowadays. That would cause hispanic rioting against the cops.

Dust4Fun,

Hey Dust, well i can say i won't support a black officer that goes out of pocket either. Poor dogs i mean i love animals and cruelty to them is a big huge no no in my book. I cant understand no tear gas either. No bean bag shots nothing. Rodney king oh my god you remember that? You took me back on that one. I was living in Long Beach California during the LA riots. I remember they had to let out the white & asian students out early fearing harm towards them. When them cops got acquitted oh **** all i remember fire looting and black and brown anger.

I was trying to say a person is considered innocent until proven guilty, and that we live in a nation of laws. Once the laws are transgressed by law enforcement, they start to become meaningless. From that, vigilantism begins.

TVCameraman,

I agree the citizens would be out for blood . Do you remember the LA riots. I was. Liiving in Long Beach in California at that time. The whole LA was a mess.

I remember seeing them on tv. I found them scary even here in Canada..! It didn't take long for all social order to collapse. And a long time to get it back.
If my information is correct, a lot of the worst affected neighbourhoods are still in disrepair.

I do have a view on this but way to risky for me to comment. so I'll observe from the side lines
So, no comment "