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Topic: Abraham Lincoln Statue Vandalized
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Fri 08/18/17 09:27 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 08/18/17 09:29 AM
Chicago, IL – In the most dumbfounding vandalism of the year, somebody set an Abraham Lincoln statue on fire in Chicago on Wednesday, according to 15th Ward Alderman Raymond Lopez.

The monument has stood near 69th & Wolcott St since it was erected in 1926. It is now blackend by fire.

By all appearances, somebody dumped accelerant on the bust and then lit it on fire.


According to Alderman Lopez, Chicago PD is investigating who committed the act and what their motivation was.

Abraham Lincoln, who led the Union to victory in the civil war and ended slavery, appears to be an unlikely target for vandalism. At least, that’s what I would think. Based off of the comments of some locals, Abraham Lincoln was a racist who said a lot of “racist ****.”

Also, if you stand up for Abe Lincoln, you’re a “suspected racist.”

Technically, the statue could be considered to be in the classification of “civil war monuments” which have come under fire of late, but the controversial monuments are on the Confederate side.

The statue was originally erected by the owner of the Lincoln Gas Station when Wolcott Street was known as Lincoln Street. Not much else is known about the statue.

The statue had been in disrepair for many years before the vandalism. Resident Pearlin Fields told dna info years ago that the statue was so worn, she doubted that the average resident even knew that the statue was supposed to be of Abraham Lincoln.

This leaves us to wonder. Did some idiot in Chicago see a statue and assume that all statues are racist now? Did they specifically target the Abe Lincoln statue? Was it committed by some neo-Nazi who was inspired by the destruction of confederate monuments? Was it somebody with Antifa who wanted to frame the pro-monument crowd? Was it somebody with the pro-monument crowd who wanted to frame Antifa?

http://bluelivesmatter.blue/abe-lincoln-statue-vandalized/


I know this is a blue lives matter site, but sure it is somewhere in the other media

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:29 AM
http://youtu.be/tTq6qLnXjDY

This is also interesting

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:33 AM
some real Bungholes!frustrated slaphead
Seems the Russian-Narrative didn't pan out too well,so,it's after the Statues again!grumble

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:35 AM
some idiot vandals, regardless of politics or labels,,,



yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:36 AM
I have seen comments on social media that if you like Trump, you arr racist. Just like if you don't like Obama, you are racist.

Correct me if I am wrong, Trump fenpunced hate groups on both sides and now is being slammed as a racist. So he should only condemn one side?

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:38 AM
I am not aware of what the 'other side' was,, actually

a man slammed a car into a crowd of people,,,what was the 'other side' of that?

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:40 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 08/18/17 09:44 AM

I am not aware of what the 'other side' was,, actually

a man slammed a car into a crowd of people,,,what was the 'other side' of that?


ANTIFA and BLM. I don't like what the white supremacist (whatever they are) has to say, but they have a right to protest as much as the other groups. BLM has blocked roads and been violent as well

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7442/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-bridge-delay-amanda-prestigiacomo

There are more stories like this. But when people say that actions aren't reflected on all of BLM, can't the same be said for the other side?

Why shouldn't he denounce all sides involved?

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:43 AM
nothing good can come to any Country that is hellbent to obliterate its History,whether by Mobaction or by Official Fiat!

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 09:49 AM


I am not aware of what the 'other side' was,, actually

a man slammed a car into a crowd of people,,,what was the 'other side' of that?


ANTIFA and BLM. I don't like what the white supremacist (whatever they are) has to say, but they have a right to protest as much as the other groups. BLM has blocked roads and been violent as well

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7442/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-bridge-delay-amanda-prestigiacomo

There are more stories like this. But when people say that actions aren't reflected on all of BLM, can't the same be said for the other side?

Why shouldn't he denounce all sides involved?



it depends upon what he is speaking to

if he is addressing the terrible act of the driver, he should be addressing only one 'side', like he did immediately about the driver who did the same in an entirely DIFFERENT country

if he is addressing merely the protesting, I totally agree, like I did with BLM, that the actions of the worst are not the responsibility of the many and should not be used to condemn all

I am on the side that protest is an important right and support that RIGHT to peaceful protest even when I disagree with those protesting

I am on the side, like I was with Obama, that condemning attitudes and actions makes more sense then singling out entire groups as the scapegoat, like has been done with BLM or with muslims,,,,

It reminds me very much of the hoopla many had, including Trump, about Obama not specifically addressing 'muslim terrorism' instead of just addressing terrorism perio

I think Trump just did that in his response. Instead of addressing 'hate group violence' , or 'supremacist violence' , he condemned violence and hate PERIOD.

I agree with him on that just as I Agreed with Obama. I do not agree that in regards to the act of terror perpetrated by a certain driver, that there were two 'sides' to address.

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Fri 08/18/17 09:55 AM



I am not aware of what the 'other side' was,, actually

a man slammed a car into a crowd of people,,,what was the 'other side' of that?


ANTIFA and BLM. I don't like what the white supremacist (whatever they are) has to say, but they have a right to protest as much as the other groups. BLM has blocked roads and been violent as well

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7442/black-lives-matter-protesters-block-bridge-delay-amanda-prestigiacomo

There are more stories like this. But when people say that actions aren't reflected on all of BLM, can't the same be said for the other side?

Why shouldn't he denounce all sides involved?



it depends upon what he is speaking to

if he is addressing the terrible act of the driver, he should be addressing only one 'side', like he did immediately about the driver who did the same in an entirely DIFFERENT country

if he is addressing merely the protesting, I totally agree, like I did with BLM, that the actions of the worst are not the responsibility of the many and should not be used to condemn all

I am on the side that protest is an important right and support that RIGHT to peaceful protest even when I disagree with those protesting

I am on the side, like I was with Obama, that condemning attitudes and actions makes more sense then singling out entire groups as the scapegoat, like has been done with BLM or with muslims,,,,

It reminds me very much of the hoopla many had, including Trump, about Obama not specifically addressing 'muslim terrorism' instead of just addressing terrorism perio

I think Trump just did that in his response. Instead of addressing 'hate group violence' , or 'supremacist violence' , he condemned violence and hate PERIOD.

I agree with him on that just as I Agreed with Obama. I do not agree that in regards to the act of terror perpetrated by a certain driver, that there were two 'sides' to address.


He was talking about the entire thing. That poor woman that lost her life was tragic. There was also more about the whole thing.

I think it should be denounced when anyone or group does that too, no matter who is president. Trump is being condemned as a racist for it. And now Lincoln's statue has been vandalized too. Watch the youtube I posted as well

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 10:35 AM
its a big country with hundreds of millions of people finding things to 'condemn' ever day

I do not consider him racist for his reaction. I do consider him a bit of a hypocrite though. Due to how he insisted OBama should address SPECIFICALLY muslim terrorism instead of addressing all terrorism, the way he is addressing all hate now.


yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 11:43 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 08/18/17 11:44 AM

its a big country with hundreds of millions of people finding things to 'condemn' ever day

I do not consider him racist for his reaction. I do consider him a bit of a hypocrite though. Due to how he insisted OBama should address SPECIFICALLY muslim terrorism instead of addressing all terrorism, the way he is addressing all hate now.




Wasn't referring to you. Was referring to "America"....just like the other side used to defend Obama for the "few"

There is a hypocrisy in this country and does nothing to unite

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 12:01 PM
understood


hopefully mingle participants and viewers understand that responses are not always personal and sometimes are only responses to certain positions or opinions posted on the forum,,,


of course, hypocrisy does not unite,,

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 12:06 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own views. People are not entitled to threats or destruction or violence...regardless of what side

Argo's photo
Fri 08/18/17 01:23 PM
big clue number 1

if you are marching behind the Swastika brigade

you, are on the wrong side...

msharmony's photo
Fri 08/18/17 01:25 PM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 08/18/17 01:25 PM
laugh laugh laugh

actually , with symbols, they can mean many different things to different people

probably also true of the swastika , or the confederate flag

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 08/18/17 01:37 PM

big clue number 1

if you are marching behind the Swastika brigade

you, are on the wrong side...


I agree that it is wrong. Same with anyone for only one side is wrong.

Again...the article is about Lincoln's statue

no photo
Fri 08/18/17 02:23 PM
well, Lincoln was white.ohwell

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Sat 08/19/17 10:41 AM

well, Lincoln was white.ohwell

So he had to be a racist too? What a shame the pollution of the up and coming. I think I've heard this saying before: history repeating itself. All the information in the world at their fingertips and this is what they come up with. Sad!

msharmony's photo
Sat 08/19/17 10:47 AM
you knew alle was being sarcastic , right?

noone is claiming that being white is what makes someone racist,,,

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