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There's also the points that archaeological finds rarely involve complete skeletons and ancient cultures commonly featured more diminutive frames of shorter lifespans and greater effects of ageing, disease, hard living and intrinsic variation such as genetic disorders.
Palaeoanthropology is often encumbered by the fact the further back you go, the greater amount of variation you tend to find among groupings, so much so that ancient hominid finds have confused genetic disorders and other intrinsic variations within a regional grouping with new species discoveries. It is therefore inescapable that a bulk of archaeology and palaeoanthropology functions upon assumptions and best guess scenarios. It still adheres to scientific method where the hypothesis remains falsifiable, so as new facts are discovered, new history books are published which readily contradict previous publications. All science functions correctly this way, but it is more dramatically apparent in the study of history. |
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You would've thought that the double D cup armor would have been the first clue..  
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I have always thought the vikings had female war leaders as well as fighters, did not realize this wasnt scientifically documented before. We have all heard of Brynhildr right? her name means protected by the shield, or literally battle armor.
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Hello how are you doing
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I briefly studied to be an archaeologist a very long time ago (didn't get far enough to list it as a skill area), and learned a lot of little things that aren't instantly obvious about it all.
For one thing, at least when I was in college, people weren't required to take courses in forensic biology in order to go into the fields of history or anthropology or archaeology. There are TONS of such mistakes that we learned about as part of the studies I was a part of, which served as warnings to be careful about conclusions and assumptions. Basically, I tend to doubt that there was significant misogyny involved with this error, at least not at the discovery level. Rather, there was more of a "force of previous knowledge" bias. The people who investigate almost anything, are most likely to be hired to do so because they have knowledge and experience in that area...but that knowledge might not be nearly as reliable as the otherwise honest researchers think it is. Anyway, excellent catch by the newer researcher. |
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How many male leaders, warriors, generals, kings etc are celebrated = 100's to 1000's, - but female warriors listed in history ?
Budeka Joan of Arc Amazon women (not Africa) I can't think of any more right now, but far fewer women are recognised. But then politicians and organised crime who make the wars also write the 'history', in their own favour; scribes and notaries were usually male, so they stick together with their male leaders to maintain patriarchy and position. And then there is gender diversity throughout the ages: not everyone is either a man or a woman, straight or bent. And not everyone gender opposite would have been found out - even in death. There would be heaps more iconic influential females out there in history, and pre-history, if anyone looked properly. |
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Very interesting read, moe. Thanks for sharing
 
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actually all the european's ancestor back to about BC 4000 are coming from the africa and the southern asia mainland border of sea and around the river side. unless you're already count on those russian scientist that they've told they had found the remains of original russian back to about 50 thousand years ago near the moscow but ignorance of the Ice age........
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Edited by
nailcap
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Wed 11/08/17 12:15 AM
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Ooooo by the way......the medias said so was million years ago the human reamins they've found were from that age......don't trying to step off by my 50 thousand years theo......and "KU KLAX KLAN!!!"
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YEA! My family history for 500yrs I am the last women viking warrior I guess in my family, they are all dead and I am 1/2 way through my life maybe 30 or 40 or less.
My family was from Norway, Around 1608, Jones purchased the Mayflower and became its Master, what we would call a captain today, Jones’ first voyage on the Mayflower was to Norway in 1609 where the ship transported fish, lumber, and tar. The ship began leaking during a storm on the way back to England and the crew had to dump some of its cargo overboard to save it. On that ship was an ancestor of mine she was a young woman in her 20's they told me, and she was off to marry an English man. She was a teacher. She had 12 children. One of these children moved to North Dakota gained statehood in 1889. The railroads became the engine of settlement in the state so many men and women moved to start new lives. This wonderful woman became a school teacher just like her grandmothers, he had also 9 children. In 1888, my Great Grandmother was born, in 1915 she gave birth to her first daughter, my grandmother, at this time they moved to Minnesota she married a nice man who was in the laundry business and she was a seamstress. They had 2 sons. One was my father. In June 10, 1950 he married a sweetheart while he was working at a gas station. He had into the Korean war, after serving when he got out, the young women cheated and broke my father's heart. On September 1st he met my mother who was a waitress, he was still working at a gas station starting to become a contractor. He married her only because a baby was on the way! I was on the way! His brother got married had a son but he could never have kids so they adopted. I had 2 children who are grown. But I am the last Viking in 500yrs who's ancessors came from Norway! |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Wed 11/08/17 12:39 PM
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YEA! My family history for 500yrs I am the last women viking warrior I guess in my family, they are all dead and I am 1/2 way through my life maybe 30 or 40 or less. My family was from Norway, Around 1608, Jones purchased the Mayflower and became its Master, what we would call a captain today, Jones’ first voyage on the Mayflower was to Norway in 1609 where the ship transported fish, lumber, and tar. The ship began leaking during a storm on the way back to England and the crew had to dump some of its cargo overboard to save it. On that ship was an ancestor of mine she was a young woman in her 20's they told me, and she was off to marry an English man. She was a teacher. She had 12 children. One of these children moved to North Dakota gained statehood in 1889. The railroads became the engine of settlement in the state so many men and women moved to start new lives. This wonderful woman became a school teacher just like her grandmothers, he had also 9 children. In 1888, my Great Grandmother was born, in 1915 she gave birth to her first daughter, my grandmother, at this time they moved to Minnesota she married a nice man who was in the laundry business and she was a seamstress. They had 2 sons. One was my father. In June 10, 1950 he married a sweetheart while he was working at a gas station. He had into the Korean war, after serving when he got out, the young women cheated and broke my father's heart. On September 1st he met my mother who was a waitress, he was still working at a gas station starting to become a contractor. He married her only because a baby was on the way! I was on the way! His brother got married had a son but he could never have kids so they adopted. I had 2 children who are grown. But I am the last Viking in 500yrs who's ancessors came from Norway! Oooooooo, we may be related! A distant relative of my grandparents brothers cousins half sisters auntie f#cked a viking when they landed in the north of England! 
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I want to thank your distant grandfather for "building" my distant grandmother a beautiful stone home and giving her beautiful, well mannered and respectful children. For giving us a wonderful life, I am so glad your family took her in and made her part of your family.
Thank you very much and thank your long distant family members for all the teachings, and educations they gave to us Vikings, also for not being anything but GREAT PEOPLE! |
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 Your welcome. If you get a chance search 'Mont Saint Michel ' I went a few weeks ago, it's in northern France, built in 708. Not even the vikings could invade it! |
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Edited by
nailcap
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Thu 11/09/17 02:38 AM
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YEA! My family history for 500yrs I am the last women viking warrior I guess in my family, they are all dead and I am 1/2 way through my life maybe 30 or 40 or less. My family was from Norway, Around 1608, Jones purchased the Mayflower and became its Master, what we would call a captain today, Jones’ first voyage on the Mayflower was to Norway in 1609 where the ship transported fish, lumber, and tar. The ship began leaking during a storm on the way back to England and the crew had to dump some of its cargo overboard to save it. On that ship was an ancestor of mine she was a young woman in her 20's they told me, and she was off to marry an English man. She was a teacher. She had 12 children. One of these children moved to North Dakota gained statehood in 1889. The railroads became the engine of settlement in the state so many men and women moved to start new lives. This wonderful woman became a school teacher just like her grandmothers, he had also 9 children. In 1888, my Great Grandmother was born, in 1915 she gave birth to her first daughter, my grandmother, at this time they moved to Minnesota she married a nice man who was in the laundry business and she was a seamstress. They had 2 sons. One was my father. In June 10, 1950 he married a sweetheart while he was working at a gas station. He had into the Korean war, after serving when he got out, the young women cheated and broke my father's heart. On September 1st he met my mother who was a waitress, he was still working at a gas station starting to become a contractor. He married her only because a baby was on the way! I was on the way! His brother got married had a son but he could never have kids so they adopted. I had 2 children who are grown. But I am the last Viking in 500yrs who's ancessors came from Norway! there are some history about that in the traditional viking family the older brother should stay help with the family but the younger one must travel to the outside world to seek the new home.......don't be sorry about that.....the history of your folks are not ending........they've just forgoten where their ancestor are come from.....just like those alans and slavics.....funny tho? yea.....that's for sure......actually the vikings are the native of europia so started to sense about what "Ku Klax Klan" meaning about? you don't have to be sad about self consideration because no one like to drilling out what history realy was...and by the way....don't think so like that again okay? you see....even those hun garrys still alives today......yea garry~~~~~don't hightly drill with......unless you wana play the world of warcraft to seek what the hell those scholars finally turn like after decades of bla bla bla~~~~research of humanity history......
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i always thought they could tell by the skeleton... if that's true, then someone dropped the ball a long time ago... maybe they did not drop the ball ... maybe a cover up ... for the vikings name sakes ... They say the vikings found America first ... guess which story you want to believe ... |
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i always thought they could tell by the skeleton... if that's true, then someone dropped the ball a long time ago... maybe they did not drop the ball ... maybe a cover up ... for the vikings name sakes ... They say the vikings found America first ... guess which story you want to believe ... I think your right, they did go there but weren't on the list so couldn't get in,they had to go back to London and get a visa at the embassy
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YEA! My family history for 500yrs I am the last women viking warrior I guess in my family, they are all dead and I am 1/2 way through my life maybe 30 or 40 or less. My family was from Norway, Around 1608, Jones purchased the Mayflower and became its Master, what we would call a captain today, Jones’ first voyage on the Mayflower was to Norway in 1609 where the ship transported fish, lumber, and tar. The ship began leaking during a storm on the way back to England and the crew had to dump some of its cargo overboard to save it. On that ship was an ancestor of mine she was a young woman in her 20's they told me, and she was off to marry an English man. She was a teacher. She had 12 children. One of these children moved to North Dakota gained statehood in 1889. The railroads became the engine of settlement in the state so many men and women moved to start new lives. This wonderful woman became a school teacher just like her grandmothers, he had also 9 children. In 1888, my Great Grandmother was born, in 1915 she gave birth to her first daughter, my grandmother, at this time they moved to Minnesota she married a nice man who was in the laundry business and she was a seamstress. They had 2 sons. One was my father. In June 10, 1950 he married a sweetheart while he was working at a gas station. He had into the Korean war, after serving when he got out, the young women cheated and broke my father's heart. On September 1st he met my mother who was a waitress, he was still working at a gas station starting to become a contractor. He married her only because a baby was on the way! I was on the way! His brother got married had a son but he could never have kids so they adopted. I had 2 children who are grown. But I am the last Viking in 500yrs who's ancessors came from Norway! there are some history about that in the traditional viking family the older brother should stay help with the family but the younger one must travel to the outside world to seek the new home.......don't be sorry about that.....the history of your folks are not ending........they've just forgoten where their ancestor are come from.....just like those alans and slavics.....funny tho? yea.....that's for sure......actually the vikings are the native of europia so started to sense about what "Ku Klax Klan" meaning about? you don't have to be sad about self consideration because no one like to drilling out what history realy was...and by the way....don't think so like that again okay? you see....even those hun garrys still alives today......yea garry~~~~~don't hightly drill with......unless you wana play the world of warcraft to seek what the hell those scholars finally turn like after decades of bla bla bla~~~~research of humanity history...... could you explain this more ->actually the vikings are the native of europia so started to sense about what "Ku Klax Klan" meaning about? so the viking like what the KKK was about an went that way being whites rule ...? |
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Edited by
mysticalview21
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Sat 11/11/17 07:48 AM
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i always thought they could tell by the skeleton... if that's true, then someone dropped the ball a long time ago... maybe they did not drop the ball ... maybe a cover up ... for the vikings name sakes ... They say the vikings found America first ... guess which story you want to believe ... I think your right, they did go there but weren't on the list so couldn't get in,they had to go back to London and get a visa at the embassy Luckily they did not have the prez we have now... would have never got in visa or not lmao wait if they had ties with the KKK I believe then he would welcome them lol |
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i always thought they could tell by the skeleton... if that's true, then someone dropped the ball a long time ago... maybe they did not drop the ball ... maybe a cover up ... for the vikings name sakes ... They say the vikings found America first ... guess which story you want to believe ... I think your right, they did go there but weren't on the list so couldn't get in,they had to go back to London and get a visa at the embassy Luckily they did not have the prez we have now... would have never got in visa or not lmao wait if they had ties with the KKK I believe then he would welcome them lol I just think they had bad press
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i always thought they could tell by the skeleton... if that's true, then someone dropped the ball a long time ago... maybe they did not drop the ball ... maybe a cover up ... for the vikings name sakes ... They say the vikings found America first ... guess which story you want to believe ... I think your right, they did go there but weren't on the list so couldn't get in,they had to go back to London and get a visa at the embassy Luckily they did not have the prez we have now... would have never got in visa or not lmao wait if they had ties with the KKK I believe then he would welcome them lol I just think they had bad press ok lets go with that
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