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Topic: Russian spy!
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Wed 03/14/18 04:21 AM
Nar......it also could be cheche or some org so. the trouble remains since 1997..........they're try to tango money believing or not. hell know who the hell was their teachers......but truth had already telling us the facts.......drinker

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Mon 03/26/18 07:38 AM
Laughing at Putin, his attempted bullying backfired.

14 European states and the USA are to expel Russian diplomats.

Thank you to all Countries who stand alongside us.

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Mon 03/26/18 01:15 PM

http://www.sott.net/article/379835-Theres-more-to-the-Sergei-Skripal-story-than-meets-the-eye



As we mentioned in our report last week "What You Are NOT being Told About Russian Spy Sergei Skripal" - it should not be forgotten that Skripal is a traitor who sold the identities of dozens of Russian agents abroad to the UK, in exchange for hard cash. This may very well have caused the deaths of some of those Russian agents operating in conflict zones. Skripal is also a known double agent - or double traitor. Without doubt, Skripal had enemies, probably quite a few.

There are many permutations as to who his attempted murderer may be.

Accusations and speculation are rife, with little hard evidence being made public other than some basic details. Russia is disputing their involvement.

U.K. Home Secretary Amber Rudd said, "That forensic analysis has revealed the presence of a nerve agent and the incident is therefore being treated as attempted murder."

While Britain has not accused any Russian state actors of involvement in the poisoning, Britain's foreign minister, Boris Johnson, last Tuesday called Russia "a malign and disruptive force" and threatened new sanctions on Russia, if the Kremlin were found to have been responsible.


Comment: Theresa May pretty much accused Russia by now:

Theresa May's accusation against Russia for Skripal poisoning doesn't hold water
Theresa May demands Russia prove it is not guilty of poisoning double agent Sergei Skripal - Russians warn this could sever diplomatic relations


Johnson's comment drew a Russian rebuttal. Earlier government-linked media and politicians in Russia took a defensive stance, claiming in advance that the Russian state had nothing to do with the crime.


The Russian embassy's claim that Skripal was a "British spy working for MI6" rather than a Russian spy is based on the fact that he was a double agent working simultaneously for both the Russian and British intelligence services.

Here is a short bio of Skripal compiled by Reuters:

Sergei Skripal bio
© Reuters
Who is Sergei Skripal - the Russian ex-spy poisoned in London, U.K.?
While the Russian Embassy's claim about the double agent is not completely wrong, it is inaccurate to imply that Skripal was not a Russian spy, and even now there are questions surrounding Skripal's allegiances.

Valery Morozov, another former Russian intelligence officer who now lives in exile in Britain, said Skripal was still working with Russian military intelligence.

"You have a Russian military intelligence officer working in the Russian diplomatic service, living after retirement in the U.K. working in cybersecurity and every month going to the [Russian] embassy to meet military intelligence officers," Morozov told Channel 4 News.

Deepening the mystery of Skripal's loyalties, the Telegraph newspaper claims it has obtained information that the poisoned spy was a close confidant of Christopher Steel, the British ex-spy who compiled the so-called "Trump dossier."


Comment: See: Was British-Russian spy poisoned over his links to Chris Steele and the Trump dossier?


Steele raised the stakes in the USA by stating that Donald Trump was vulnerable to Kremlin blackmail. Steel is a former MI6 officer who then had to disappear into hiding. He was lambasted in a highly politicized memo by the House Intelligence Committee's Republican chair, and been referred for a criminal probe by two top Republican senators. Both the US and Russian presidents now consider him an enemy.

And there is Vladimir Putin's infamous reaction to the 2010 exchange of a group of captured Russian "illegals" - undercover spies - living in the United States for a group of Russian intelligence agents accused of working for the West, including Skripal. Putin, who was then prime minister, said: "Traitors will kick the bucket. Trust me. These people betrayed their friends, their brothers in arms. Whatever they got in exchange for it, those 30 pieces of silver they were given, they will choke on them." Putin was referring to the enemies that traitors like Skripal would have created.

In the meantime, the Home Secretary Amber Rudd revealed yesterday that the investigation now involved more than 250 counter terrorism police officers and more worryingly, that Britain is to raise the case with its Nato allies.

"Some big questions arise, as to how do you stand up to a clandestine and sinister attack deliberately done to play havoc in our society?"

This firm line appeared to be backed by the security minister Ben Wallace, who mentioned Britain's "powerful allies" as he said the Government was ready to respond with "the full force of the United Kingdom's resources"

"There are lots of things that the United Kingdom can do," Mr Wallace threatened. "It is a powerful country with a powerful economy, powerful allies, powerful military and powerful other capabilities - and we shall look at all those."

On Monday, hours before it became clear that Mr Skripal had even been poisoned, Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson was telling MPs: "Vladimir Putin has made it quite clear that he has hostile intent towards this country. We have to wake up to that threat and we have to respond to it."

Since his appointment, Williamson as Defence Secretary has been provoking Russia. He was relentlessly mocked for famously saying in January that Russia wants to "Damage (Britain's) economy, rip its infrastructure apart, actually cause thousands and thousands and thousands of deaths" as well wanting to "create total chaos within the country."

Russia has vehemently denied involvement in the nerve agent attack and accused British politicians of engaging in "pure propaganda".

British security officials, however, have said the specific chemical used would have been difficult to obtain and could only have come from a state run or state-licensed laboratory.

Nerve agents including Sarin and VX are manufactured by the British Government in Porton Down, just 8 miles from where Sergei Skripal was attacked and is the largest stock of deadly nerve agents and gases anywhere in Europe.

Craig Murray, ex British ambassador even hints at something more sinister: "nor in this murky world should we overlook the fact that he must have known interesting things about his MI6 handlers. "Litvinenko II" is rather too pat and obvious, and could be a false flag set-up."

The Times reports that "Theresa May is on the verge of publicly blaming Russia for the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal and ordering expulsions and sanctions against President Putin's regime."

One other fact that the mainstream press have not mentioned is that even after prosecutors had convicted Skripal of high treason in their own country, the Russian state gave him a full state pardon, placed him on a spy swap list and was willingly freed. Hardly the actions of a state that already had him in prison for the highest of crimes and wanting him silenced. And as Time reports the "if the obvious suspects in the case are the Russian intelligence services, it would suggest a major break from the rules they are taught to follow."

It's still possible, of course, that Skripal did something to provoke retaliation from Moscow. The GRU (foreign military intelligence agency of Russia), of which Skripal reached the rank of Colonel, was recently implicated in the hacking of the U.S. elections in 2016. If Skripal was tapping his old sources to get fresh intelligence, rather than enjoying his retirement in silence, he could have turned himself into a target. But then, that's what double agents do isn't it. There's an old saying in Britain - "if you live by the sword" - and Skripal lived on a double edged version of it.

One thing is for sure, Britain is playing an extremely high stakes and dangerous geo-political game - for what? A foreign traitor, despised by his own, passed on by America to be re-homed as part of a spy swap, with no perceptible allegiance to Britain.

There is more to this story than meets the eye.
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Indeed there is, as there was before the destruction of Iraq, Great post, thanks.

Methinks May does perhaps protest too much.

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Mon 03/26/18 01:43 PM

Sergei skripal, an ex Russian agent who came to Britain a few years ago in a spy exchange was attacked with a "military grade "nerve agent only produced by the Russians, his daughter was also attacked. they failed to murder them but are both critical along with a policeman who was first on the scene. The attack happened in Salisbury, England. The assumption by out government today is that it was probably done by the kremlin or Moscow has lost control of their weapons. a few years ago another Russian was murdered with a radioactive material in a restaurant.
What happens next?


Yes, the Russian made it so EVERYTHING points to them, including a chemical that is so lethal that the guy still lives whoa

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Sat 04/07/18 01:04 PM


Sergei skripal, an ex Russian agent who came to Britain a few years ago in a spy exchange was attacked with a "military grade "nerve agent only produced by the Russians, his daughter was also attacked. they failed to murder them but are both critical along with a policeman who was first on the scene. The attack happened in Salisbury, England. The assumption by out government today is that it was probably done by the kremlin or Moscow has lost control of their weapons. a few years ago another Russian was murdered with a radioactive material in a restaurant.
What happens next?


Yes, the Russian made it so EVERYTHING points to them, including a chemical that is so lethal that the guy still lives whoa


Latest is that both are recovering from the 'lethal nerve agent' for which there is no known antidote..........

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Sat 04/07/18 01:10 PM



Sergei skripal, an ex Russian agent who came to Britain a few years ago in a spy exchange was attacked with a "military grade "nerve agent only produced by the Russians, his daughter was also attacked. they failed to murder them but are both critical along with a policeman who was first on the scene. The attack happened in Salisbury, England. The assumption by out government today is that it was probably done by the kremlin or Moscow has lost control of their weapons. a few years ago another Russian was murdered with a radioactive material in a restaurant.
What happens next?


Yes, the Russian made it so EVERYTHING points to them, including a chemical that is so lethal that the guy still lives whoa


Latest is that both are recovering from the 'lethal nerve agent' for which there is no known antidote..........

Do you really think if we had an antidote will would tell the world?
Britain is the world's leading biological and chemical warfare experts.
The nerve agent is a chemical weapon made by Russia

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Sat 04/07/18 02:46 PM
The funny thing is .. Sergey Lavrov - their Foreign Minister calls for the Russian party inevitable involment in investigation .. it's like the police should share all the evidence they have with a murderer .. lmfao ..

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Sat 04/07/18 11:50 PM

The funny thing is .. Sergey Lavrov - their Foreign Minister calls for the Russian party inevitable involment in investigation .. it's like the police should share all the evidence they have with a murderer .. lmfao ..

laugh as someone also put it. It's like the arsonists investigating there own fire!

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Sun 04/08/18 04:12 AM

The funny thing is .. Sergey Lavrov - their Foreign Minister calls for the Russian party inevitable involment in investigation .. it's like the police should share all the evidence they have with a murderer .. lmfao ..


Don't believe all you read from politicians, actually it's not for the police to decide guilt or innocence, no matter the nationality of the defendant.
Everyone is presumed innocent, so, the police do eventually have to share whatever evidence they have with everyone.

But of course this case is different , especially because of the rather large number of 'usual suspects' in a case involving a former double agent.

I doubt if the public will ever really know what happened.





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Sun 04/08/18 11:40 AM
Edited by Walker001951 on Sun 04/08/18 11:58 AM
State sponsored assassinations don't leave clues, like in this famous case concerning a TV reporter.


Jill Wendy Dando (9 November 1961 – 26 April 1999) was an English journalist, television presenter, and newsreader who was 1997 BBC Personality of the Year. At the time of her death, she was the presenter of the BBC programme Crimewatch.
On 26 April 1999, Dando was fatally shot outside her home in Fulham, London. A local man, Barry George, was convicted and imprisoned for the murder but was later acquitted after an appeal and retrial. A Yugoslav terrorist connection was initially dismissed by police, but has since acquired more credence.


Forensic study indicated that Dando had been shot by a bullet from a 9 mm calibre semi-automatic pistol, with the gun pressed against her head at the moment of the shot. Richard Hughes, her next door neighbour, heard a surprised cry from Dando "like someone greeting a friend" but heard no gunshot. Hughes looked out of his front window and, while not realising what had happened, made the only certain sighting of the killer—a six-foot-tall (183 cm) white man aged around 40, walking away from Dando's house.[7] At George's first trial, his defence barrister, Michael Mansfield QC, quoted from a National Criminal Intelligence Service report which stated that the Serbian warlord leader Arkan had ordered Dando's assassination in retaliation for the NATO bombing of the Radio Television of Serbia headquarters on 23 April 1999. Sixteen station staff had died in the bombing.[25] Mansfield suggested that Dando's earlier presentation of an appeal for aid for Kosovar Albanian refugees may have attracted the attention of Bosnian-Serb hardliners.


The theory still holds great sway with commentators.[26] The former communist government in Yugoslavia had a history of assassinations directed against its opponents. The victims were mostly Croatian émigrés, although others were targeted.[26] The attacks were usually carried out by small teams consisting of a trigger-man supported by a spotter and were always carefully planned.[26] The attacks were often made as targets entered or left their homes, since this was the point at which they were most vulnerable and where a case of mistaken identity was least likely.[26] An opposition journalist was assassinated outside his home in Belgrade just a few days before Dando's murder and the method used in both cases was identical.[27] Journalist Bob Woffinden advanced the view that a Yugoslav group was behind the Dando killing and, in various newspaper articles, contested all the grounds on which the police had dismissed this possibility.[28][29]

The case remains open.

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