Topic: Are people industries changing your world ?
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Wed 04/25/18 03:56 AM
Tourism is often touted as the saviour of high unemployment ex industrial areas.

The tourists increase airport traffic and pollution, cause road accidents, take up all available accommodation when a large event is on, and much of the taxis.

Education is another foreign dollar magnet, taking university positions, and student housing, and jobs from needy locals.

Sure the ruling corporations make money out of the tourists and foreign students, but at the cost of local peoples convenience, and amenity, and quality of life. Some small benefits and maybe a few jobs result from tourism, but slow moving buses, and hoards of gaggling foot path blockers are also a product.

So many nice little places have been wiped out to cater for rubber necked blowins to rush past and take selfies, on the way to another 'tourism icon'. Some of my favourite places have been replaced with concrete glass and chrome monstrosities, barriers, fences, "DO NOT . . ." signs, and their previous pleasant amenity utterly lost.

"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot."

Is this happening a lot near you ?

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Wed 04/25/18 06:59 AM
Is this happening a lot near you ?

I live in Ohio right now. In my area there are a ton of parks and recreation areas. There are so many that on any given day I can show up and there aren't that many people. Plus there isn't a lot of garbage all over the place.

I lived in Arizona for a few years and IMO it was the number of people that were just screwing things up, not necessarily tourists.
People moving from the midwest bringing midwest landscaping to the desert screwing up the feeder rivers.
BLM open lands, not developed parks, that were just littered with trash.
A few of my favorite shooting spots were closed down/monitored because people were hauling out their old appliances, computers, cars, and trash, as targets, not cleaning up their brass, and leaving their trash behind.
I remember going to a locals spot in Sedona and ended up spending about 8 hours and a roll of garbage bags picking up beer cans and cases, and picnic trash.
These were all undeveloped areas, no parking lots in paradise, just hidden nature spots or out in the desert.

And that doesn't even begin to address the garbage wasteland created by illegal immigrants traversing the desert, leaving suitcases, empty food and water jugs, dead bodies, rape trees, and their unwanted crap littering the land on their journey.

People ruin things. IMO "tourist" isn't a special class of destroyer.
Local, out of towner, tourist, family, immigrant, whatever.

So:
Are people industries changing your world ?

People are changing my world. People industries just make money from what people are going to do anyway.
Based on the parks in Ohio, at least many try to keep it looking nice and managed, orderly, for as long as possible in order to keep the cash cow producing.

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Wed 04/25/18 07:11 AM
New Zealand is a young country .. strong on conservation ... there are many national parks and protected land/marine zones .. I hope that will always be the case .. her beauty is truly a paradise smitten

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Wed 04/25/18 08:28 AM
In short, no, not in any truly impactful way. Sharing the world can sometimes be 'uncomfortable', but it is also cool, to me, that people can move about and expose themselves to/learn about other places, cultures, and activities around the world.

The access to knowledge and growth far outweighs any small inconveniences of sharing space or time with others.

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Wed 04/25/18 09:01 AM
Ciretom I mostly agree, but for road trippers and some truckers who make roadside stops not nice with their mess - a special class of destroyer. devil
All human activities make some problems, yes, but it's the permanent destruction of good for the development of bad, for temporary visitors for use a few hours a week that annoys me here.
And Likewise here places I did target practice are now closed off by banning vehicle access, because of fools messing up.

Blondey111, N Z is lucky to still have some traditional ownership and sovereignty to keep the corporations at bay from infinite un-environmental development. Even so, a good chunk of it is already developed and made 'tourist friendly' from what I see on TV touristy shows; my limited research. There would be so many top camping spots there. I watch 'Hunting Aoteoroa'? and like the bush scenery.

As soon as a TV touristy show does a segment on a nice small town, outsiders with development ideas can make big changes to the place, even changing the character of a town. eg. A nice sleepy seaside town I liked got new residents with a pub, then rowdy outsiders came, then crime, then a police station, then a mini 'police state' - no longer a fun place to visit. Civilisation ! laugh