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Topic: The game of evolution
Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 03:39 PM


I never needed Darwin to tell me that things evolve over time.
I know who Darwin was but I have never studied his papers or placed his ideas on high.
I have the ability, same as anyone, to look at the world around me and that is enough to understand that we exist in an evolving world.
I have the imagination to consider what an intelligently designed existence would be and the reality before me does not look like that.
The reality of 'evolution' breaks the delusion of 'intelligent design'.
To me, its as plain as my tailbone, which I know is there because it has been broken before.

and what you witness you call evolution. and what i witness i call adaptation. and that is that :thumbsup:

Um, adapting is evolving.
Natural selection is evolution.

Intelligent design is pre-destiny.
Intelligent design locks adaptation to a predetermination.
Intelligent design implies that mutations cannot exist unless those mutations are designed that way.
It forces nature into pre-selective forms with no deviation unless those forms have specific purpose.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 04:03 PM



I never needed Darwin to tell me that things evolve over time.
I know who Darwin was but I have never studied his papers or placed his ideas on high.
I have the ability, same as anyone, to look at the world around me and that is enough to understand that we exist in an evolving world.
I have the imagination to consider what an intelligently designed existence would be and the reality before me does not look like that.
The reality of 'evolution' breaks the delusion of 'intelligent design'.
To me, its as plain as my tailbone, which I know is there because it has been broken before.

and what you witness you call evolution. and what i witness i call adaptation. and that is that :thumbsup:

Um, adapting is evolving.
Natural selection is evolution.

Intelligent design is pre-destiny.
Intelligent design locks adaptation to a predetermination.
Intelligent design implies that mutations cannot exist unless those mutations are designed that way.
It forces nature into pre-selective forms with no deviation unless those forms have specific purpose.




before Darwin stole the term and mis-defined it, natural selection-inherited traits-adaptation were not part of evolutionary theory.

the benefit Darwin had after Blyth died, was Blyth could not refute him. and modern science assumed Darwin was correct without ever correcting the fact that Darwin misinterpreted natural selection.

but that is what good atheists do in order to keep a lie going.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 04:17 PM




I never needed Darwin to tell me that things evolve over time.
I know who Darwin was but I have never studied his papers or placed his ideas on high.
I have the ability, same as anyone, to look at the world around me and that is enough to understand that we exist in an evolving world.
I have the imagination to consider what an intelligently designed existence would be and the reality before me does not look like that.
The reality of 'evolution' breaks the delusion of 'intelligent design'.
To me, its as plain as my tailbone, which I know is there because it has been broken before.

and what you witness you call evolution. and what i witness i call adaptation. and that is that :thumbsup:

Um, adapting is evolving.
Natural selection is evolution.

Intelligent design is pre-destiny.
Intelligent design locks adaptation to a predetermination.
Intelligent design implies that mutations cannot exist unless those mutations are designed that way.
It forces nature into pre-selective forms with no deviation unless those forms have specific purpose.

before Darwin stole the term and mis-defined it, natural selection-inherited traits-adaptation were not part of evolutionary theory.
the benefit Darwin had after Blyth died, was Blyth could not refute him. and modern science assumed Darwin was correct without ever correcting the fact that Darwin misinterpreted natural selection.
but that is what good atheists do in order to keep a lie going.

LOL, why are you so stuck on Darwin?
Try to expand your mind past the stigmata society has placed on it.
Look around at nature.
Atheist = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
There are plenty of people that understand evolution that are not atheists, even a few religions are based on evolution.
It appears you are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Perhaps you might put a bit more faith in the reality around you and a bit less faith in what other people tell you to believe to find your contentment.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 04:41 PM


LOL, why are you so stuck on Darwin?
Try to expand your mind past the stigmata society has placed on it.
Look around at nature.
Atheist = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
There are plenty of people that understand evolution that are not atheists, even a few religions are based on evolution.
It appears you are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Perhaps you might put a bit more faith in the reality around you and a bit less faith in what other people tell you to believe to find your contentment.






i am still speaking from the evolutionary biologists who disagree with Darwin since there biggest obstacle are those who blindly follow Darwinism.

and yes, i live in the foothills of the mountains and the scenery here is immaculate. literally breathtaking. i see where floods have eroded rock and how glaciers would have helped formed mountain ravines. i have access to over 80 14k peaks. my faith is confirmed by nature alone each time i walk out my sliding glass doors and stand on my deck.

my home is at 7,800 feet above sea level. i can literally see towns lit up each night since i overlook them. it is the best place on earth to confirm my faith in God :thumbsup:

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 09:03 PM



LOL, why are you so stuck on Darwin?
Try to expand your mind past the stigmata society has placed on it.
Look around at nature.
Atheist = a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
There are plenty of people that understand evolution that are not atheists, even a few religions are based on evolution.
It appears you are arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Perhaps you might put a bit more faith in the reality around you and a bit less faith in what other people tell you to believe to find your contentment.

i am still speaking from the evolutionary biologists who disagree with Darwin since there biggest obstacle are those who blindly follow Darwinism.
and yes, i live in the foothills of the mountains and the scenery here is immaculate. literally breathtaking. i see where floods have eroded rock and how glaciers would have helped formed mountain ravines. i have access to over 80 14k peaks. my faith is confirmed by nature alone each time i walk out my sliding glass doors and stand on my deck.
my home is at 7,800 feet above sea level. i can literally see towns lit up each night since i overlook them. it is the best place on earth to confirm my faith in God :thumbsup:

frustrated
Okay, you completely lost me on that?

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 11:08 PM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Mon 05/28/18 11:09 PM
you stated to look around at nature.

I described my home life and surroundings to allow you some insight that I see nature daily.

I even have Tibetan mastiffs because we have cinnamon bears, mountain lions, wolves, coyotes who would love to get at my turkeys, chickens and ducks. the dogs even keep my cows, Icelandic horses, and 3 llamas safe even though they are big enough to care for themselves.

the tm [Tibetan mastiff] was the first dog bred from the wolf 50k years ago for the purpose of fighting tigers, who crept into the village to steal infant children.

my breeder is a zoologist who restored certain rattle snakes and now is saving the TM's. he definitely is all about evolution. and yes, I have learned much from him.

but I am surrounded by both nature and those who believe 100% in evolution.

so what you are presenting to me I have heard 100 different ways from those close to me. but I still have my own opinions, considering they are atheists, who find the idea of higher beings to be of nonsense.

I know I was just random there, but it does go with you asking if I look around at nature. the answer is yes. and I do see nature from all points of views :thumbsup:

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 11:20 PM

you stated to look around at nature.

I described my home life and surroundings to allow you some insight that I see nature daily.

I even have Tibetan mastiffs because we have cinnamon bears, mountain lions, wolves, coyotes who would love to get at my turkeys, chickens and ducks. the dogs even keep my cows, Icelandic horses, and 3 llamas safe even though they are big enough to care for themselves.

the tm [Tibetan mastiff] was the first dog bred from the wolf 50k years ago for the purpose of fighting tigers, who crept into the village to steal infant children.

my breeder is a zoologist who restored certain rattle snakes and now is saving the TM's. he definitely is all about evolution. and yes, I have learned much from him.

but I am surrounded by both nature and those who believe 100% in evolution.

so what you are presenting to me I have heard 100 different ways from those close to me. but I still have my own opinions, considering they are atheists, who find the idea of higher beings to be of nonsense.

I know I was just random there, but it does go with you asking if I look around at nature. the answer is yes. and I do see nature from all points of views :thumbsup:

Thanx, I understand now.
waving

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 11:23 PM
good night waving

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