Topic: The game of evolution
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Mon 05/14/18 10:02 PM
That's harsh and inflammatory, and I doubt it very much

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/14/18 11:16 PM
real life is harsh and inflammatory.

ever been in the military and have strange people you do not know just want to kill you because you exist?

doesn't seem fair, but that is reality.

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Tue 05/15/18 12:49 AM
That's what happens in the military, if you don't like it don't join

iam_resurrected's photo
Tue 05/15/18 06:28 PM
it's also what happens in normal every day life...

if you don't like it, there are options in order to exit this life!!

BlakeIAM's photo
Fri 05/25/18 02:00 PM
Evolution does not exist no matter how longwinded one gets while "trying" to explain the piss poor theory thereof.

Mankind always trying to rob God of His glory.

I would of thought by 2018 we as a society would rise above the blatant lies of "evolution ".



Tom4Uhere's photo
Fri 05/25/18 02:11 PM

Evolution does not exist no matter how longwinded one gets while "trying" to explain the piss poor theory thereof.
Mankind always trying to rob God of His glory.
I would of thought by 2018 we as a society would rise above the blatant lies of "evolution ".

Why the hostility? Makes me wonder if your faith may not be as strong as you hope? Especially if someone else's belief threatens you.
spock
As far as I know, evolution makes more sense than an invisible sky creature placing everything as it is right now. Evolution happens all around us all the time. All that is needed is to actually see the reality and know what it is.
But, hey, I believe you should be able to believe what you want.
waving

BlakeIAM's photo
Fri 05/25/18 02:28 PM


Evolution does not exist no matter how longwinded one gets while "trying" to explain the piss poor theory thereof.
Mankind always trying to rob God of His glory.
I would of thought by 2018 we as a society would rise above the blatant lies of "evolution ".

Why the hostility? Makes me wonder if your faith may not be as strong as you hope? Especially if someone else's belief threatens you.
spock
As far as I know, evolution makes more sense than an invisible sky creature placing everything as it is right now. Evolution happens all around us all the time. All that is needed is to actually see the reality and know what it is.
But, hey, I believe you should be able to believe what you want.
waving



Why are you being presumptuous?
Feel threatened by the truth?

I'm not being hostile whatsoever nor do I feel threatened. You should look up those words and absorb the definitions and use them in a proper contextual manner.

Evolution makes no sense at all and no it does not happen around us all the time , but if you like you can give some examples (that don't exist) for us to look at.

The irony is you are actually self-projecting your lame accusations towards me and my beliefs ye little of faith.

I still love you though waving

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Fri 05/25/18 02:46 PM



Evolution does not exist no matter how longwinded one gets while "trying" to explain the piss poor theory thereof.
Mankind always trying to rob God of His glory.
I would of thought by 2018 we as a society would rise above the blatant lies of "evolution ".

Why the hostility? Makes me wonder if your faith may not be as strong as you hope? Especially if someone else's belief threatens you.
spock
As far as I know, evolution makes more sense than an invisible sky creature placing everything as it is right now. Evolution happens all around us all the time. All that is needed is to actually see the reality and know what it is.
But, hey, I believe you should be able to believe what you want.
waving



Why are you being presumptuous?
Feel threatened by the truth?

I'm not being hostile whatsoever nor do I feel threatened. You should look up those words and absorb the definitions and use them in a proper contextual manner.

Evolution makes no sense at all and no it does not happen around us all the time , but if you like you can give some examples (that don't exist) for us to look at.

The irony is you are actually self-projecting your lame accusations towards me and my beliefs ye little of faith.

I still love you though waving

Thanks for letting me know my human limitations.
Evolution makes no sense at all to you.
To me, it makes sense.
Am I right?
I dunno, its what I choose to believe.
The fact that you don't believe as I makes no difference.
I see the reality as I see it.
While I don't love you, because I don't know you, I have nothing against you.

Truth often never aligns with reality.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 12:04 AM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Mon 05/28/18 12:44 AM
it is possible that God allowed natural process to include adaptation. which to science is perceived as evolving.

I see fire as being an accidental discovery of happenstance [not because they were cold or wanted to cook or because lightning lit the forest up], but I do see the invention of the wheel as knowledge thinking outside the norm [because they could envision pulling-pushing objects without physically carrying them]. this to me explains adaptation more than evolving. but I am also a fan of inherited traits which opposes randomness. and the fact DNA is as complex as a trillion computers makes it hard to fathom it resulted from a random accident.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 01:24 AM
Why do people think evolution is based on an accident?
Just because there is chaotic events in the Universe doesn't mean the Universe is dis-ordered. It only means that we have yet to recognize the order in chaos.
Evolution may be a patterned action.
We just can't understand the pattern...yet.

BlakeIAM's photo
Mon 05/28/18 06:51 AM
Nothing to understand regarding evolution because it doesn't exist.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 09:29 AM

Why do people think evolution is based on an accident?
Just because there is chaotic events in the Universe doesn't mean the Universe is dis-ordered. It only means that we have yet to recognize the order in chaos.
Evolution may be a patterned action.
We just can't understand the pattern...yet.




if you remove the Darwinism factor of today's researchers, there are those biologist [world renown], will claim there are more problems to evolution than solutions. each path leads to many unanswered questions that it has become acceptable to claim Darwinism.

and many who do argue that Darwin was not absolutely correct, argue based upon random mutations.

but the accident idealism begins with the original BBT.

the single proton to neutron to nucleus, then to shrinkage, and then expansion, that caused heat until the sudden freeze to cause annihilation, is by all purposes an accident or chance happening.

so, by claiming the universe was an accident allows them to claim the earth having life was by accident. and within that accident came evolution and randomness.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 10:09 AM
With absolutely no bigotry intended;

How do you explain a fully black person mating with a fully white person that results in a brown child? Or any cross-breeds at all.

How do you explain birth defects?

How do you explain similar but slightly different animals and plants?
Shouldn't only fish live in the oceans?
How do you explain whales, seals and walruses?
What about penguins and ostriches?
How do you explain coastal erosion that evolves the coast from cliffs to beaches?

Evolution exists, to think it doesn't is insanity.

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 10:18 AM


Why do people think evolution is based on an accident?
Just because there is chaotic events in the Universe doesn't mean the Universe is dis-ordered. It only means that we have yet to recognize the order in chaos.
Evolution may be a patterned action.
We just can't understand the pattern...yet.

if you remove the Darwinism factor of today's researchers, there are those biologist [world renown], will claim there are more problems to evolution than solutions. each path leads to many unanswered questions that it has become acceptable to claim Darwinism.

and many who do argue that Darwin was not absolutely correct, argue based upon random mutations.

but the accident idealism begins with the original BBT.

the single proton to neutron to nucleus, then to shrinkage, and then expansion, that caused heat until the sudden freeze to cause annihilation, is by all purposes an accident or chance happening.

so, by claiming the universe was an accident allows them to claim the earth having life was by accident. and within that accident came evolution and randomness.

Seems like in all religous discussions you are placing titles and grouping all opposition together under that title.
Darwin was incomplete. Darwin mainly drew conclusions from the differences and similarities I saw in nature. He published as "Hey, look what I saw" and even included sketches.

I see evolution all around me but I don't consider myself a Darwinist.
I don't even consider myself an Evolutionist.
I don't need a 'side' to reinforce what I see.
Anyone that takes the time to look around and see without bias, can see how evolution is a natural order.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 10:30 AM



Why do people think evolution is based on an accident?
Just because there is chaotic events in the Universe doesn't mean the Universe is dis-ordered. It only means that we have yet to recognize the order in chaos.
Evolution may be a patterned action.
We just can't understand the pattern...yet.

if you remove the Darwinism factor of today's researchers, there are those biologist [world renown], will claim there are more problems to evolution than solutions. each path leads to many unanswered questions that it has become acceptable to claim Darwinism.

and many who do argue that Darwin was not absolutely correct, argue based upon random mutations.

but the accident idealism begins with the original BBT.

the single proton to neutron to nucleus, then to shrinkage, and then expansion, that caused heat until the sudden freeze to cause annihilation, is by all purposes an accident or chance happening.

so, by claiming the universe was an accident allows them to claim the earth having life was by accident. and within that accident came evolution and randomness.

Seems like in all religous discussions you are placing titles and grouping all opposition together under that title.
Darwin was incomplete. Darwin mainly drew conclusions from the differences and similarities I saw in nature. He published as "Hey, look what I saw" and even included sketches.

I see evolution all around me but I don't consider myself a Darwinist.
I don't even consider myself an Evolutionist.
I don't need a 'side' to reinforce what I see.
Anyone that takes the time to look around and see without bias, can see how evolution is a natural order.






I agree Darwin was incomplete. I am quoting today's top evolutionists with ties to biology claiming that there are 2 forms of idealisms taking place. one is, not enough information to conclude anything because too many unanswered questions. the second is, scientists are lazy and have resorted to claiming Darwinism [when Darwinism is incomplete].

not sure how any of that is tied with religion.

I do not see evolving but rather see adaptation taking place. summers mean on a personal basis I wear less clothing [with exception to working long hours in the sun/skin protection]. winters mean I wear more clothing.


obviously, this is more habit to me than training at my age. I use to wear shorts in the winter cold as long as I had something warm up top. now, it's cold so I am clothed head to toe. I did not evolve, I adapted to temperature. my brain has not changed at all in my entire life. but it has grown in knowledge from reading, studying, formatting my own theories, and understanding my surroundings and it's effects upon me. this is adapting to knowledge and experience. evolving would mean my body would change to correlate hot/cold. but instead, I adapt by less/more clothing.

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Mon 05/28/18 10:46 AM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Mon 05/28/18 10:48 AM

With absolutely no bigotry intended;

How do you explain a fully black person mating with a fully white person that results in a brown child? Or any cross-breeds at all.

pigmentation is the cause of this. and the first peoples on earth were darker so it is genetically stronger.

How do you explain birth defects?

50% are due to drug use, alcohol use, abuse, illness, sibling as parents [genetics too close], environment effect...and those within a perfect environment etc can trace back through their lineage and find someone who was ill and that genetics would be passed throughout the generations waiting for one day to come into effect.

How do you explain similar but slightly different animals and plants?

ironically, herbivores can only eat certain vegetation. the other vegetation is fatal to them. so there is an inherited trait among all herbivores to eat certain vegetation vs vegetation that makes them ill. like a dog that is sick eats grass and vomits to become better. this is inherited. so to me, anything inherited is due to design [not by evolutionary accident].

Shouldn't only fish live in the oceans?

they are designed to have gills which conforms them to a body of water.

How do you explain whales, seals and walruses?

design, because none of those mammals show any connection of evolving from one another.

What about penguins and ostriches?

design

How do you explain coastal erosion that evolves the coast from cliffs to beaches?

rotation of the earth and the gravitational pull can cause this. which neither have connection to evolution.

Evolution exists, to think it doesn't is insanity.

it exists because you choose to believe it does. I see there is a root cause for change. and generally, it's a form of adapting, not a process of evolving

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 11:12 AM
What do you think inherited traits are?
slaphead

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 12:02 PM
Edited by iam_resurrected on Mon 05/28/18 12:35 PM

What do you think inherited traits are?
slaphead




a process of natural selection.

which Darwin stole the idea from [Blyth and Matthew], because it gave insight to how evolution was a skewed/manipulated process based upon Darwin's own opinion rather than the facts.

Darwin took and completely changed Blyth and Matthew's intent/meaning for his own theory and purpose.

but then again, if Darwin was alive today, it's a rather accepted hypothesis he was one who suffered from a form of autism [or better known as a psychological disorder].

and ironically, many within science also suffer from similar disorders. it's how the mental coined the phrase X-Men. they actually believe they are superior to those who are normal rofl rofl rofl



i should add, whatever is depicted as being normal.
i for one believe we all should go through a mental evaluation.
it would eliminate gun misuse to a degree.

i have had to be evaluated for security purposes with my job.
when i coached youth sports i was background checked and so forth.

i believe it would be good for all to undergo such evaluations :thumbsup:

Tom4Uhere's photo
Mon 05/28/18 02:51 PM


What do you think inherited traits are?
slaphead

a process of natural selection.

which Darwin stole the idea from [Blyth and Matthew], because it gave insight to how evolution was a skewed/manipulated process based upon Darwin's own opinion rather than the facts.
Darwin took and completely changed Blyth and Matthew's intent/meaning for his own theory and purpose.
but then again, if Darwin was alive today, it's a rather accepted hypothesis he was one who suffered from a form of autism [or better known as a psychological disorder].
and ironically, many within science also suffer from similar disorders. it's how the mental coined the phrase X-Men. they actually believe they are superior to those who are normal rofl rofl rofl
i should add, whatever is depicted as being normal.
i for one believe we all should go through a mental evaluation.
it would eliminate gun misuse to a degree.
i have had to be evaluated for security purposes with my job.
when i coached youth sports i was background checked and so forth.
i believe it would be good for all to undergo such evaluations :thumbsup:

I never needed Darwin to tell me that things evolve over time.
I know who Darwin was but I have never studied his papers or placed his ideas on high.
I have the ability, same as anyone, to look at the world around me and that is enough to understand that we exist in an evolving world.
I have the imagination to consider what an intelligently designed existence would be and the reality before me does not look like that.
The reality of 'evolution' breaks the delusion of 'intelligent design'.
To me, its as plain as my tailbone, which I know is there because it has been broken before.

iam_resurrected's photo
Mon 05/28/18 03:24 PM


I never needed Darwin to tell me that things evolve over time.
I know who Darwin was but I have never studied his papers or placed his ideas on high.
I have the ability, same as anyone, to look at the world around me and that is enough to understand that we exist in an evolving world.
I have the imagination to consider what an intelligently designed existence would be and the reality before me does not look like that.
The reality of 'evolution' breaks the delusion of 'intelligent design'.
To me, its as plain as my tailbone, which I know is there because it has been broken before.







and what you witness you call evolution. and what i witness i call adaptation. and that is that :thumbsup: