Many times "laziness" is synonymous with "welfare".
Reality and all.
Some need to put their Cape away.

A modest home in the suburbs, is there something wrong with that? And yes I have a pool so that makes it Beverly Hills?
I work in the city and see the abuse all the time. Born and raised there to. It has been going on since the conception of assistance
And it is copied in every metro area
And because you don't see it, it's not there?

Below is the laziest areas in America list. It is interesting what the demographics are for the top 25 or some



https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/the-laziest-cities-in-america/ss-BBLmrhp?ocid=spartandhp#image=51

oddly, the slides dont work nor do I see any reference to where the information is gathered or what it is based on.

worked fine for me.. Stanford University study

oddly, it doesnt work NOW..

So I am researching standford university laziest cities to verify what the data is based on ..but so far find nothing from stanford either

Well, what can I tell you it was on the MSN home page on my computer this morning. I didn't dig for the thing. Had no trouble pulling it up or navigating it either.. none at all..

But keep looking if you want ( it was actually for everyone on this thread).. but if you want to keep searching... go for it.

lovely. still not refuting abuse happens. I dont think I even need to say anymore that it happens in every system.

your point is made. you are blessed to be someone who 'sees' it in your individual experiences to report it to everyone else.

thank you for your contribution. there is no evidence your individual experience however is as widespread as you assume it is.

And you have absolutely no evidence that it is not. I doubt you have any experience in urban areas to make a clear assumption as I and other on this site who do (or did) live in urban type areas have stated.

And yes, it is .. lovely.. especially in the early morning when I am drinking my coffee on my gazebo and the deer come down from the forest to eat apples from my tree.

So tranquil :)

The black guy who was selling his food card 50 cents on the dollar, pin # is 1965. But he isn't in the data base as commiting fraud. It's called real world.

lol Sure dont. just like there is no evidence that black people are not subject to police brutality or that BLM on the whole endorses violence.

the theme of these threads have never required people to prove what they are claiming, but having some numbers to at least back up WHY they say it goes quite a way.

and your "middle class" neighborhood seems very nice, judging by the constant motivation to describe it ... and the successful company that imports and hires and fires and manages so many people ....


kudos to you.

Chaffetz was articulating a commonly held belief that poverty in the United States is, by and large, the result of laziness, immorality and irresponsibility. If only people made better choices — if they worked harder, stayed in school, got married, didn’t have children they couldn’t afford, spent what money they had more wisely and saved more — then they wouldn’t be poor, or so the reasoning goes.

First, it’s founded on the assumption that the United States is a land of opportunity, where upward mobility is readily available and hard work gets you ahead. While grit may have ushered you up the socioeconomic ladder in the late 19th century, it’s no longer up to the task today.

To accept this as reality is to confront the unpleasant fact that myths of American exceptionalism are just that — myths — and many of us would fare better economically (and live longer, healthier lives, too) had we been born elsewhere

Second, to believe that poverty is a result of immorality or irresponsibility helps people believe it can’t happen to them. But it can happen to them (and to me and to you). Poverty in the United States is common, and according to the Census Bureau, over a three-year period, about one-third of all U.S. residents slip below the poverty line at least once for two months or more.



Third — and conveniently, perhaps, for people like Chaffetz or House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) — this stubborn insistence that people could have more money or more health care if only they wanted them more absolves the government of having to intervene and use its power on their behalf. This is both patronizing and, of course, a gross misreading of the actual outcome of laws like these.

There’s one final problem with these kinds of arguments, and that is the implication that we should be worried by the possibility of poor people buying the occasional steak, lottery ticket or, yes, even an iPhone. Set aside the fact that a better cut of meat may be more nutritious than a meal Chaffetz would approve of, or the fact that a smartphone may be your only access to email, job notices, benefit applications, school work and so on. Why do we begrudge people struggling to get by the occasional indulgence? Why do we so little value pleasure and joy? Why do we insist that if you are poor, you should also be miserable? Why do we require penitence?

Ryan and their compatriots offer us tough love without the love, made possible through their willful ignorance of (or utter disregard for) what life is actually like for so many Americans who do their very best against great odds and still, nonetheless, have little to show for it. Sometimes not even an iPhone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/08/laziness-isnt-why-people-are-poor-and-iphones-arent-why-they-lack-health-care/?utm_term=.6dcb8975eb4c

back on topic, myths associated with poverty

1.the assumption that the United States is a land of opportunity, where upward mobility is readily available and hard work gets you ahead.

2. to believe that poverty is a result of immorality or irresponsibility helps people believe it can’t happen to them.

3. this stubborn insistence that people could have more money or more health care if only they wanted them more absolves the government of having to intervene and use its power on their behalf.

There’s one final problem with these kinds of arguments, and that is the implication that we should be worried by the possibility of poor people buying the occasional steak, lottery ticket or, yes, even an iPhone. Set aside the fact that a better cut of meat may be more nutritious than a meal Chaffetz would approve of, or the fact that a smartphone may be your only access to email, job notices, benefit applications, school work and so on. Why do we begrudge people struggling to get by the occasional indulgence? Why do we so little value pleasure and joy? Why do we insist that if you are poor, you should also be miserable? Why do we require penitence?

The U.S. is the land of opportunity. Hardwork pays off if someone is smart with their money.

Poverty is often a result of being irresponsible. Getting stoned and not going to work or getting pregnant out of wedlock, for example

My nephew had his own business until he found out his daughter was going to be born. Then he went to work for a company that provided ins for his family. His business became his 2nd job.

People who indulge and then want a handout are parasites on their communities. Indulging often creates poverty. Many people lost their homes due to refinancing for cash to piss away.

back on topic, myths associated with poverty

1.the assumption that the United States is a land of opportunity, where upward mobility is readily available and hard work gets you ahead.

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?.. ITS NOT?

Then why are 10's of thousands of people risking life & limb to sneak in from Mexico each year. And why are 6 million applying for citizenship or the right to work here each year.?
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Each year, the USCIS receives and processes about 6 million immigration applications from individuals and employers. Most applicants request one of the following: permission to permanently live in the U.S., permission to temporarily work in the U.S. or naturalization as a U.S. citizen.

the assumption that it is ONLY hard work that creates success, and lack of success MEANS lack of 'hard work' is false. Success is a combination of many things that include but dont stop at hard work. things like opportunity, resource availability, connections, and mentorship all play into it as well. And these are not things everyone's life includes.

Poverty can be a result of bad choices, it can also be the result of bad circumstance. Until one walks a mile in someone elses shoes, one doesnt know each individuals financial circumstance to really make the call for them.

People can make errors or bad choices without it meaning they are parasites, it just means they are human. Humans have needs sometimes that call on help from other humans.

Beans have just as much protein as steak.

ALSO FALSE


Essential amino acids
Your body can not produce these amino acids. You have to supply them to your body by eating protein rich foods. There are 9 essential amino acids: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, tryptophan, and valine.
Animal sources of protein like red meat, chicken, eggs, fish and milk products contain all essential amino acids in high concentrations. They are often called complete sources of protein.

Non animal sources of protein are typically low in some of the essential amino acids. That’s the case with beans as well. Although they are a good source of protein they are low in certain amino acids compared to meat. That’s why they’re often called incomplete sources of proteins.