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Topic: THE TRUMP TAX CUT. WHO BENEFITED?
greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Fri 10/19/18 08:10 AM
TRUMP’S TAX CUTS DIDN’T BENEFIT U.S. WORKERS, MADE RICH COMPANIES RICHER, ANALYSIS FINDS President Donald Trump’s corporate tax cuts might not have trickled down to American workers in the way that he suggested they would. In part, But a new analysis of all Fortune 500 companies found only 4.3 percent of workers will receive a one-time bonus or wage increase tied to the business tax cuts, while businesses received nine times more in cuts than what they passed on to their workers, according to Americans for Tax Fairness, a political advocacy group devoted to tax reform. The analysis also found that companies spent 37 times as much on stock buybacks than they did on bonuses and increased wages for workers. From here. http://www.newsweek.com/republican-tax-cuts-trump-wage-increases-879800 President Trump Could Save $11 Million A Year From New Tax Bill In part, It is clear that President Donald Trump is set to save millions if he signs the Republican tax plan, but exactly how much? Forbes crunched the numbers: It looks like up to $11 million a year from a single rule change. From here, https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/12/18/president-trump-could-save-11-million-a-year-from-new-tax-bill/#7c6ab7c12337 I took the tax cut to buy a front end loader, two more generators and a few pieces of heavy equipment. without the tax cut.. I wasn't doing that... no way. me and 100's of 1000's of other business owners Because you can't see it.. doesn't mean it ain't happening.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Fri 10/19/18 08:13 AM
More quotes and articles from liberal media. You keep hunting up this junk, then throw it out here like it's the gospel truth. We know the MSM is being water carriers for the dems coming into the elections. I desperately hope that dems flop bigtime. That way, we can sit back and let you gripe and complain about it. I know you'll never stop, you'll just gripe more.

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Fri 10/19/18 08:25 AM
So they feed us this BS that the budget deficit is due to medicare spending and social security instead of placing the blame where it really belongs..on the backs of bad trade deals false narrative wars and handing our money out to other countries and supporting illegals..not to mention all that has been stolen by government officials..Give me a Break..there really is no debate here unless we are willing to believe the lies again... I will say this ..You can give tax cuts in hopes that it will eventually benefit the workers..but what the companies do with that money is not up to Trump... Good Post. !

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Fri 10/19/18 09:04 AM
The fact is many of the people who claim that the tax cuts are not going back into building companies, thru new equipment and new hires have absolutely no knowledge of this because they are not business owners or people who make the purchasing/ hiring decisions. All of equipment.. new hires, ect has a trickle down effect that reaches countless others. As for companies keeping some of that tax break... what's wrong with that? It is used for operating or expansion purposes or anyway they want. After all, It all ends up in circulation.. just another thing the negative folks fail to realize. But it is not their world.. so they can't possible know. They are going by some hand picked spreadsheet that fuels their argument.

tombraider Joined Wed 09/12/07 Posts: 5042	Fri 10/19/18 09:06 AM Edited by tombraider on Fri 10/19/18 09:07 AM
Toody that was... ...Purely by accident...

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Fri 10/19/18 09:14 AM
Toody that was... ...Purely by accident...

Redrider1500 Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 865	Fri 10/19/18 02:15 PM
Oh good! Lets quote garbage quarterly.Ever wonder why they only print that rag four times a year? Get used to the idea that we're not rolling over again. This is a fight for our freedom. Our right to choose. Reaganomics worked. Government does not know how to be prosperous- WE do. Socialism HAS failed everytime it's been tried.

Kindlightheart Joined Fri 09/19/14 Posts: 2370	Fri 10/19/18 03:46 PM
CEOs that respect the President probably gave their employees raises..elitists and democrat CEOs that don’t like the President kept their money and laid off people to make Trump look bad..imo..

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 10/19/18 04:02 PM Edited by msharmony on Fri 10/19/18 04:08 PM
Does anyone stop to think that what we read from anyone is PRINTED somewhere? What makes what one person decides to 'print' any more or less credible than the next? research for yourselves, oh wait, that requires reading something someone printed .. so perhaps we should all just go on our own limited experiences and observations instead ...smh and nothing in the world is 'free'. things dont materialize. but to look out for the WELFARE of citizens we have a budget (Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States.") and people can nitpick about it all day long, but its necessary and there is no bookkeeping that keeps one to one record of who donated what or for how long. So as long as citizens care about the future and understand how things work together, yes, taxes will partially contribute to the WELFARE that is involved in taking care of the most helpless amongst us , the kids., who will become the future. Not all taxpayers drive, but taxes go to roads. Not all taxpayers support war or have anyone in the military, but taxes go to military. Not all taxpayers are seniors, not all taxpayers will get sick, but taxes go to healthcare. its not all about 'me' and only what impacts 'me', but what may someday be needed for some of 'us'.

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Sun 10/21/18 03:28 AM
Republicans produce jobs, Democrats produce mobs. -Trump.

greeneyes148 Joined Fri 12/25/15 Posts: 5830	Sun 10/21/18 03:54 AM
Does anyone stop to think that what we read from anyone is PRINTED somewhere? What makes what one person decides to 'print' any more or less credible than the next? research for yourselves, oh wait, that requires reading something someone printed .. so perhaps we should all just go on our own limited experiences and observations instead ...smh and nothing in the world is 'free'. things dont materialize. but to look out for the WELFARE of citizens we have a budget (Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States.") and people can nitpick about it all day long, but its necessary and there is no bookkeeping that keeps one to one record of who donated what or for how long. So as long as citizens care about the future and understand how things work together, yes, taxes will partially contribute to the WELFARE that is involved in taking care of the most helpless amongst us , the kids., who will become the future. Not all taxpayers drive, but taxes go to roads. Not all taxpayers support war or have anyone in the military, but taxes go to military. Not all taxpayers are seniors, not all taxpayers will get sick, but taxes go to healthcare. its not all about 'me' and only what impacts 'me', but what may someday be needed for some of 'us'. yes, taxes will partially contribute to the WELFARE that is involved in taking care of the most helpless amongst us , the kids., who will become the future. Not all taxpayers drive, but taxes go to roads. Not all taxpayers support war or have anyone in the military, but taxes go to military. ____________________________________________________________________ And lets not forget those illegal aliens...our taxpayer dollars support them... don't they?.. its not just the helpless kids.. is it. And taxes go to the military?...as they should... try not having one and see what happens.

Charles1962150 Joined Tue 03/13/12 Posts: 3403	Sun 10/21/18 01:31 PM
Angry Diners Confront Mitch McConnell In Louisville Restaurant "Furious customers confronted Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at a Louisville restaurant on Friday, with one telling him to “leave the country alone.” That diner also warned other customers: “They’re going to come for your Social Security.” McConnell recently made headlines when he said that programs such as Social Security need to be cut to help make up for the Trump administration’s $779 billion budget deficit, the highest mark for that figure in six years. The deficit has grown in the wake of the Republican Congress approving a big boost in military spending and massive tax cuts that were especially generous for corporations. McConnell, however, wants to target Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare for cost reductions as the way to respond to the deficit. " http://www.yahoo.com/news/angry-diners-confront-mitch-mcconnell-042023449.html If not kept in check, this is something Republicans will eventually do. Especially if the Gov is left as it is right now. With one power rule. (Majority Republicans)

Rooster35 Joined Wed 05/27/15 Posts: 1776	Sun 10/21/18 01:34 PM
I didn't get nuffin

Toodygirl5 Joined Fri 10/26/12 Posts: 14405	Tue 10/23/18 12:51 PM Edited by Toodygirl5 on Tue 10/23/18 12:53 PM
Angry Diners Confront Mitch McConnell In Louisville Restaurant "Furious customers confronted Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) at a Louisville restaurant on Friday, with one telling him to “leave the country alone.” That diner also warned other customers: “They’re going to come for your Social Security.” McConnell recently made headlines when he said that programs such as Social Security need to be cut to help make up for the Trump administration’s $779 billion budget deficit, the highest mark for that figure in six years. The deficit has grown in the wake of the Republican Congress approving a big boost in military spending and massive tax cuts that were especially generous for corporations. McConnell, however, wants to target Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare for cost reductions as the way to respond to the deficit. " http://www.yahoo.com/news/angry-diners-confront-mitch-mcconnell-042023449.html If not kept in check, this is something Republicans will eventually do. Especially if the Gov is left as it is right now. With one power rule. (Majority Republicans) So what does the Democratic party have to offer this Country other than , free funds for all Illegals in the US plus using Taxpayers money to keep paying for Public assistance Of ALL. Kinds !! I will answer, they have nothing but SOCIALISM Leftist logic .

Charles1962150 Joined Tue 03/13/12 Posts: 3403	Thu 10/25/18 01:21 AM
What tax cut? Here’s what Trump and the GOP want to talk about instead In part, "With less than two weeks until the midterm elections, Republicans from President Trump down are not talking about tax cuts and have been backing away from that message for months. A September poll by the Republican National Committee published by Bloomberg in September found that 61 percent of respondents said the law benefits “large corporations and rich Americans” rather than “middle-class families,” which corresponds with Wall Street Journal headlines like “Tax Change Helps Executives Afford Pricier Planes". "A historically large number of Republican legislators have in fact decided to go into other lines of work. In lieu of lauding the tax cuts, Trump has turned to exaggeration and outright fabrication in his closing message, attempting to inflame xenophobia in his base while promising yet another tax cut — this one really, really targeting the middle class — but on a timetable that couldn’t possibly be met". http://www.yahoo.com/news/tax-cut-heres-trump-gop-want-talk-instead-203432794.html GOP Kills Bill to Cover Pre-Existing Conditions Just 25 Days Before the Midterms "In a 50-50 vote, Republicans defeated a Democratic measure to stop the return of denying health coverage for pre-existing conditions. The measure was part of a Democratic attempt to bring healthcare to the forefront of the campaign for control of Congress in November". http://gritpost.com/gop-pre-existing-conditions/

Easttowest72 Joined Tue 04/24/18 Posts: 2169	Thu 10/25/18 04:38 AM
We need to focus on lowering medical cost so it's affordable. More money isn't the answer. Price gouging is happening in the medical field. My son went to the ER to get his arm popped back into place. $10,000 and he had to teach the Dr how to do it. Its a rip off. We need to get rid of tarriffs on meds that we purchase. Give nurses more control over meds and procedures. They do most of the work and spend the most time with the patient anyway.

Redrider1500 Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 865	Thu 10/25/18 08:15 AM
Haven't you heard of nurse-practitioners? I laid my arm open a couple of years ago, I needed fourteen stitches in it. A nurse-practitioner did it, I never saw a doctor. About 15 years ago, I got a cut lip from an accident. In that case, the nurse sorta flipped out and I did it myself in my doctor's office. She was afraid of how they came out, and she didn't like hurting me. Since I personally knew the doctor, and we consider ourselves friends, I razzed him good about it. He at least waved a good part of the bill because of it, and we got a good laugh about it all.

actionlynx Joined Wed 08/18/10 Posts: 5448	Thu 10/25/18 08:48 AM
I just scanned through this entire topic, and I notice one thing that no one has brought. So, I'd like to get all of your opinions on it. Do you think our economic policies might focus too much on big business rather than building up small businesses? I mean, think about it on all levels -- local, state, and federal. What builds the most stable economy? Don't policies that focus on big business "place all eggs in one basket", so to speak? What happened to creating a more diversified economy in the wake of the Cold War and the reduction in defense contracts? Does Trump's tax bill do anything to help promote small businesses, the businesses which actually build a more stable economy and tax base from the local level and up? Or are we just going to continue heading down the path of looking to big business to create all jobs, services, and tax revenues?

Redrider1500 Joined Wed 04/25/18 Posts: 865	Thu 10/25/18 05:59 PM
Yes, they are promoting small business.Judging by how busy I've become in the last two years, and from what my customers have been telling me. I've listened to dems bellyache about how trickle down economics doesn't work. If it isn't working for you, then you're not worth a hoot. People get wise to poor craftsmanship, loafers who do nothing at work. Come to work for me, shut your phone off. I didn't hire you to talk on your phone. A few customers have griped at me for not answering mine during the work day. But they buy my excuse, when I say my phone stays in my truck during working hours. You expect me to work, that's what I'm doing. Small business thrives on the big ones. That I knew from when I first started working. I had Clark Lift truck employees passing my name around. For two years, that's who was hiring me. They were busy, and they made me busy. If you run a small business, you have to be diligent,and prove to all of your customers that it was the right move to deal with you.

actionlynx Joined Wed 08/18/10 Posts: 5448	Thu 10/25/18 07:33 PM Edited by actionlynx on Thu 10/25/18 07:34 PM
I appreciate your response, Redrider. I hope a few others will chime in as well. The way I see it (at risk of sounding like a commercial), experiences may vary from state to state. Obviously different state governments will have different policies which may impact how well small businesses are promoted. For instance, CT is not very good at supporting small businesses anymore. More and more shops are closing because of the big box stores that towns and cities keep luring in with tax breaks. It's tough to find local pharmacies, bookstores, or hardware stores in many towns now because of it. Those aren't the only examples though. There are plenty more.