Topic: Rogue FBI Agents plotted Coup on President Trump
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Sun 02/17/19 09:20 PM




Prove me wrong!



Oh c'mon, Msharmony won't do it...but you know that all you will get is ridicule in leui of anything substantial or factual from a lefty. It's the Saul Alinsky way!

They just don't have it....so innuendo and misdirection is all that's left in the toolbox.







you are right. it is hard to disprove or prove empty allegations. Its like asking to prove there isnt an easter bunny. Most people are pretty certain its made up, but that doesnt mean anyone has proven one doesnt exist,,, does it?




Empty allegations? Did you not see the proof that I pointed you to? Did you read page 294 of the inspector General's report and do you think I made that up? Have you bothered to read a single one of Hillary or Podesta's emails? Perhaps you never heard the report Ben Swann did about it on TV when the pizzagate Scandal first broke a couple of years ago. (More proof that you're welcome to look up and attempt to dispute any time.) You accuse me of making wild, unsubstantiated allegations And yet when I point you directly to the proof you require, you apparently refuse to even look at it??? Of course this doesn't come as any surprise to me at all given the fact that the Cia's operation Mockingbird has been such a smashing success. In fact if I'm not mistaken, I believe it was William Casey himself, the former head of the CIA who once publicly stated that they would know that their campaign had been a success when everything the American people believe is false! Look it up! It's definitely a piece of documented history and I'm sure that if you look into any of the allegations that I made, you will find that I do not make them lightly and that there is more than enough proof to back them up! Are you by any chance being paid by one of the many Soros organizations to be here and argue with everyone who loves this country and supports our president?


are you by any chance in an institution?

links would help, of which you provide none.

I have read a page 294 of A report, because that is the vague info you 'lead' me to and it says comey took notes about Anthony Weiner ... and?

like I said, UNSUBSTANTIATED, claims. if they found something there it would be public and known, they were looking for DECADES to lynch the Clintons on ANYTHING. But nice try.



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Sun 02/17/19 09:20 PM

I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





FBI Agents can not have anything to do with that. It's illegal. They have to remain unbiased and can not conspire to remove a President. Even Hoover who hated Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon didn't even attempt that and he had far more dirt on them then the FBI has on anyone today.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:22 PM


I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





It is. A bunch of dems plotting to invoke the 25th amendment on Trump. Why wasn't VP Pence called in on that meeting? Or former AG Jeff Sessions? Or Mitch McConnell? Or Paul Ryan? Why was it secret?

Care to field that question?



I have a hunch and I've said it on here many times over the past few months that Pence was one of the people to support invoking the 25th amendment. It wouldn't go through without the support of the Vice President. I believe it was Pence, Sessions and Hailey.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:23 PM


I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





FBI Agents can not have anything to do with that. It's illegal. They have to remain unbiased and can not conspire to remove a President. Even Hoover who hated Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon didn't even attempt that and he had far more dirt on them then the FBI has on anyone today.


sorry, nothing in your OP states they had anything to do with it besides bringing it up in discussion that three cabinet members had talked about it.



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Sun 02/17/19 09:27 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 02/17/19 09:29 PM



Heh heh... they've got so much on the Obamas and the Clintons that hasn't even been revealed to the public yet. I can see how it would take a battery of attorneys a year or more just to assess all of the charges to determine where to start. Fortunately all it will take is one count of high treason each to have them all executed.

I have a feeling Trump is about to drop some astonishing truth bombs on the American people that will have the general public demanding their executions!



laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

smh

and I have got 'so much' on Trump that the public doesnt know yet. I can see how it would take a battery of attorneys absolutely no time to indict everyone around him, but years to pin him down. Fortunately, all it will take is one investigation of his competence to have him removed from office.

I have a feeling Trump is going to continue tweet storms like a petulant child, and throwing out wild 'hyperboles' of which he has NO CLUE if they are true or not, to appease his loyal audience.

sigh, throwing out wild unsubstantiated claims is so fun ... isnt it?


Oh my, I wish I had more time for this! If you have so much on Trump, I'm sure Mr. Mueller would love to hear from you at this point because he's absolutely desperate to find anything he can pin on our legitimately elected president. So far his battery of attorneys and investigators have spent almost two years trying to come up with ANY proof of collusion with Russia and to this day they still have nothing but a fake dossier that Hillary paid for! Just for your information, I'm 13 years down the rabbit hole and one thing I never do is throw out unsubstantiated claims so let's see if you can prove me wrong on what I just told you and while we're at it, page 294 of the inspector General's report last summer indicates that the FBI was fully aware that the clintons and the Clinton Foundation are heavily involved in crimes against children around the world and they failed to do anything about it! Prove me wrong!
Perhaps you've never bothered to look at a single one of Hillary or Podesta's emails (which by the way neither one of them have ever denied ownership of).
According to the FBI's own website they were obviously using a well-known pedophile code language! Prove me wrong! Hillary was caught red-handed taking millions of dollars in bribes from Putin in exchange for 20% of our uranium Supply! They make nuclear weapons out of that stuff ya know so that makes it an act of high treason for directly colluding with the Enemy! Prove me wrong!


I wouldn't call Pedestra a pedophile. I think that's a conspiracy theory. Everything else you said is spot on. Former Delta Force Operator and Terrorism and War Crimes Investigator Tim Kennedy has said numerous times that Uranium + Heavy Water (which Russia has an unlimited supply of) = Atom Bomb. The only thing Russia is short of is Uranium.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:30 PM

Your thread title is entirely false.

Nothing in your post supports even a HINT of a "coup," and doesn't even support your claim that the "plot" was originated by "rogue FBI agents."


According to your own post, this was a discussion of an entirely legal action, by members of Trump's own cabinet.

Why the false labeling of the post?



When you have people in power that try to remove the democratically elected leader of a country, that is a coup.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:33 PM


take your own advice sir.


I'm not giving anyone any advice here. I am merely substantiating the allegations I made by providing you with direct evidence. If you choose not to look at the evidence than we can only assume that you just can't handle the truth and that you are conceding defeat. I really don't understand why there has to be any argument at all though. Would you still have voted for Hillary if you knew the she was actually a Satanic pedophile ring leader? I don't think so and neither did most of America! Do you think Julian Assange just concocted all of those tens of thousands of incriminating emails that were ultimately traced right back to Hillary and Podesta by the forensic computer analysts? I thank God everyday that he released that information just before the election and Trump should be thanking him too as far as I'm concerned! Assange has as much guts as any red-blooded American Patriot and we owe him a tremendous amount of gratitude for putting his life on the line to help us save our country, especially given the unusual proclivity for people who stand up against the Clintons to mysteriously die of "suicide" from multiple gunshot wounds to the back of the head! Now, before you attack me I would suggest that you look deep into ALL of these allegations that I am making and that so many others made before me because the evidence is absolutely overwhelming! Why is it that no one on the left is able to have an intelligent, civilized conversation about these facts I am presenting and why do they always refuse to even look at the evidence???

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Sun 02/17/19 09:34 PM


Your thread title is entirely false.

Nothing in your post supports even a HINT of a "coup," and doesn't even support your claim that the "plot" was originated by "rogue FBI agents."




you haven't been keeping up, I see.

Andrew McCabe...the assistant director of the FBI under Mueller admitted it only a few days ago. He said that the FBI and the DOJ were working together to bring Trump down with charges he knew were false.

It's public knowledge now. That genie won't be going back into the bottle and heads are going to roll soon.


That and holding meetings with President Trump's cabinet members to try to convince them to invoke the 25th amendment.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:36 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Sun 02/17/19 09:37 PM

KGB agent comment: find me a man and I'll find a crime to pin on him.

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And although Special Counsel Robert Mueller has yet to publicly pinpoint illegal Russia collusion on Trump’s part he’s still looking. Meantime, former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell is making an explosive allegation. She’s among those who believe there’s now compelling evidence pointing to a parallel scandal.

Sharyl: In the simplest of terms if possible, what do you think is the story that's been uncovered in the past two years?

Sidney Powell: That the entire Russia collusion narrative was made up. That the FBI and the intelligence community and the Department of Justice began an investigation against four American citizens simply because they worked for the opposition political candidate, that being Donald Trump.

http://fullmeasure.news/news/politics/russia-probe-02-11-2019

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Anyone interested in this I suggest you watch today's program at the above address.


Actually Reinhard Heydrich made that comment famous when he was second in command to Himmler and headed the SS and SD and was technically the head of Interpol at the time. The KGB just copied it. Remember, Russia worked closely with Nazi Germany prior to World War II when they both teamed up to invade Poland.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:40 PM



I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





FBI Agents can not have anything to do with that. It's illegal. They have to remain unbiased and can not conspire to remove a President. Even Hoover who hated Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon didn't even attempt that and he had far more dirt on them then the FBI has on anyone today.


sorry, nothing in your OP states they had anything to do with it besides bringing it up in discussion that three cabinet members had talked about it.





It' documented between two Agents that they would prevent Trump from taking office. Both are potentially facing criminal charges. They also have it documented top FBI and DOJ officials met with cabinet members to get them to invoke the 25th amendment.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:44 PM




I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





FBI Agents can not have anything to do with that. It's illegal. They have to remain unbiased and can not conspire to remove a President. Even Hoover who hated Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon didn't even attempt that and he had far more dirt on them then the FBI has on anyone today.


sorry, nothing in your OP states they had anything to do with it besides bringing it up in discussion that three cabinet members had talked about it.





It' documented between two Agents that they would prevent Trump from taking office. Both are potentially facing criminal charges. They also have it documented top FBI and DOJ officials met with cabinet members to get them to invoke the 25th amendment.




None of which is in the OP. If it is illegal, and the evidence is there, then I guess it will take its course.

however, I find it not likely that there would be a 25th amendment about removing a POTUS which was accompanied by a law that there couldn't be discussion about removing a POTUS.

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Sun 02/17/19 09:47 PM



Oh my, I wish I had more time for this! If you have so much on Trump, I'm sure Mr. Mueller would love to hear from you at this point because he's absolutely desperate to find anything he can pin on our legitimately elected president. So far his battery of attorneys and investigators have spent almost two years trying to come up with ANY proof of collusion with Russia and to this day they still have nothing but a fake dossier that Hillary paid for! Just for your information, I'm 13 years down the rabbit hole and one thing I never do is throw out unsubstantiated claims so let's see if you can prove me wrong on what I just told you and while we're at it, page 294 of the inspector General's report last summer indicates that the FBI was fully aware that the clintons and the Clinton Foundation are heavily involved in crimes against children around the world and they failed to do anything about it! Prove me wrong!
Perhaps you've never bothered to look at a single one of Hillary or Podesta's emails (which by the way neither one of them have ever denied ownership of).
According to the FBI's own website they were obviously using a well-known pedophile code language! Prove me wrong! Hillary was caught red-handed taking millions of dollars in bribes from Putin in exchange for 20% of our uranium Supply! They make nuclear weapons out of that stuff ya know so that makes it an act of high treason for directly colluding with the Enemy! Prove me wrong!


I wouldn't call Pedestra a pedophile. I think that's a conspiracy theory. Everything else you said is spot on. Former Delta Force Operator and Terrorism and War Crimes Investigator Tim Kennedy has said numerous times that Uranium + Heavy Water (which Russia has an unlimited supply of) = Atom Bomb. The only thing Russia is short of is Uranium.


You mean Podesta and since you're not even familiar with the spelling of his name I'm sure the reason you wouldn't call him a pedophile is because you've never read a single one of his emails! I don't know how anyone in his right mind could possibly read even just a small handful of his emails and not come away thinking that the man is the lowest form of life on Earth! It's not a wacky conspiracy theory if you can prove it and his email will leave little doubt in the mind of any sane, rational person! I'm sure it's all they're going to need in a court of law when he finally has to face the music. Check into it and get back to me after you have all the facts, I'll be very interested in talking with you again about it after you've seen the truth for yourself!

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Sun 02/17/19 09:54 PM



take your own advice sir.


I'm not giving anyone any advice here. I am merely substantiating the allegations I made by providing you with direct evidence. If you choose not to look at the evidence than we can only assume that you just can't handle the truth and that you are conceding defeat. I really don't understand why there has to be any argument at all though. Would you still have voted for Hillary if you knew the she was actually a Satanic pedophile ring leader? I don't think so and neither did most of America! Do you think Julian Assange just concocted all of those tens of thousands of incriminating emails that were ultimately traced right back to Hillary and Podesta by the forensic computer analysts? I thank God everyday that he released that information just before the election and Trump should be thanking him too as far as I'm concerned! Assange has as much guts as any red-blooded American Patriot and we owe him a tremendous amount of gratitude for putting his life on the line to help us save our country, especially given the unusual proclivity for people who stand up against the Clintons to mysteriously die of "suicide" from multiple gunshot wounds to the back of the head! Now, before you attack me I would suggest that you look deep into ALL of these allegations that I am making and that so many others made before me because the evidence is absolutely overwhelming! Why is it that no one on the left is able to have an intelligent, civilized conversation about these facts I am presenting and why do they always refuse to even look at the evidence???



The debate is not about 'evidence', but interpretation of it's meaning.

just like Trumpers would look at this 'evidence' and not see any big deal:


Two weeks after he boarded the Trump train, Manafort emailed Konstantin Kilimnik, who’d been his key lieutenant in Kiev for years:

“I assume you have shown our friends my media coverage, right?” Manafort wrote.

“Absolutely,” Kilimnik responded a few hours later from Kiev. “Every article.”

“How do we use to get whole,” Manafort asks. “Has OVD operation seen?”

OVD, in this context, is Oleg Deripaska, a wealthy Russian oligarch to whom Manafort was deeply in debt. Critically, despite the debts, Manafort agreed to go work for Trump for free. But he wanted to know how he could use his unpaid work for Trump to “get whole” with Deripaska.



or this


• The court documents say Papadopoulos claimed he met a London-based professor with extensive ties to Russian government officials (who reports identified as Joseph Mifsud) before joining the Trump campaign. Mifsud actually took an interest in Papadopoulos shortly after he joined the Trump campaign, and during a meeting in April the professor “told him about the Russians possessing ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” according to prosecutors. The conversation happened weeks before the Democratic National Committee revealed it had been hacked, and about a month after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta was targeted with a phishing attempt.


but lets just WAIT for what someone MIGHT have on the ex POTUS and ex POTUS wife ...

smh





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Sun 02/17/19 10:19 PM





I am so confused. How is the 25th invoked without ASKING about being in agreement or not? The 25th is not a crime, and who else to invoke it but those that first discuss it? Seems like more of a creation of scandal while dismissing all the ACTUAL Indictments coming down all around the current POTUS, and more of that 'wait till you hear what people NOT THE PRESIDENT are going to have been found to have done"


The tunnelvision trend is quite amazing.





FBI Agents can not have anything to do with that. It's illegal. They have to remain unbiased and can not conspire to remove a President. Even Hoover who hated Roosevelt, Kennedy and Nixon didn't even attempt that and he had far more dirt on them then the FBI has on anyone today.


sorry, nothing in your OP states they had anything to do with it besides bringing it up in discussion that three cabinet members had talked about it.





It' documented between two Agents that they would prevent Trump from taking office. Both are potentially facing criminal charges. They also have it documented top FBI and DOJ officials met with cabinet members to get them to invoke the 25th amendment.




None of which is in the OP. If it is illegal, and the evidence is there, then I guess it will take its course.

however, I find it not likely that there would be a 25th amendment about removing a POTUS which was accompanied by a law that there couldn't be discussion about removing a POTUS.


Actually, it is a potential violation of the Hatch Act.

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Sun 02/17/19 10:28 PM
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Mon 02/18/19 01:34 AM
Edited by T.Roy on Mon 02/18/19 01:49 AM

It's pretty obvious that one side of this debate has fact and the other has only ridicule of fact, mocks the truth that slaps them in the face.

Here is EXACTLY what happened for those who choose not to be blinded by the lies of the Left.



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+boingino+plan+a%2C+plan+b%2C+and+plan+c

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Mon 02/18/19 02:19 AM


It's pretty obvious that one side of this debate has fact and the other has only ridicule of fact, mocks the truth that slaps them in the face.

Here is EXACTLY what happened for those who choose not to be blinded by the lies of the Left.



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+boingino+plan+a%2C+plan+b%2C+and+plan+c



that's funny, and that one side is consistently copying ACTUAL documented news and facts WITH links, but the other side insist it has the 'real' facts. Because sources held to a standard of accountability should not be trusted as much as random Facebook personalities should.



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Mon 02/18/19 02:55 AM
Edited by T.Roy on Mon 02/18/19 02:56 AM



It's pretty obvious that one side of this debate has fact and the other has only ridicule of fact, mocks the truth that slaps them in the face.

Here is EXACTLY what happened for those who choose not to be blinded by the lies of the Left.



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+boingino+plan+a%2C+plan+b%2C+and+plan+c

that's funny, and that one side is consistently copying ACTUAL documented news and facts WITH links, but the other side insist it has the 'real' facts. Because sources held to a standard of accountability should not be trusted as much as random Facebook personalities should.




ACTUAL testimony from people on the inside TRUMPS your phony documents from liars and crooks and fake news any day.

You won't even look at the real evidence because you know you're supporting crooks and liars.

have fun with that. They will all be in jail soon and it can't be soon enough



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Mon 02/18/19 03:30 AM




It's pretty obvious that one side of this debate has fact and the other has only ridicule of fact, mocks the truth that slaps them in the face.

Here is EXACTLY what happened for those who choose not to be blinded by the lies of the Left.



https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dan+boingino+plan+a%2C+plan+b%2C+and+plan+c

that's funny, and that one side is consistently copying ACTUAL documented news and facts WITH links, but the other side insist it has the 'real' facts. Because sources held to a standard of accountability should not be trusted as much as random Facebook personalities should.




ACTUAL testimony from people on the inside TRUMPS your phony documents from liars and crooks and fake news any day.

You won't even look at the real evidence because you know you're supporting crooks and liars.

have fun with that. They will all be in jail soon and it can't be soon enough



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and who will put them in jail? the 'liars' who do these investigations in our Intelligence community? If they can be trusted to do that, they can also be trustworthy enough if they are saying they are connecting the dots with Trump? right? or is it just some more political double standards and conspiracies?



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Mon 02/18/19 03:53 AM
Edited by T.Roy on Mon 02/18/19 03:54 AM



The Democrats have corruptly opposed every appointee of Trump but just 2 days ago he FINALLY go his Attorney General.

Remember the name, William Barr. He's going to topple that house of cards. The wheels of justice are very slow, but will grind all the trash in it's way eventually. That will include dozens and dozens from the "intelligence" community who are corrupt and treasonous.

And it can't be soon enough for America.