Topic: make up/cosmetics
Bastet127's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:27 PM
Edited by Bastet127 on Tue 01/05/21 07:28 PM

How could it not be, Cat? Make-up has one purpose, attractiveness. Are you telling me it's perfectly reasonable for a woman to purposefully make herself more attractive to go to work, then a guy in the office get's written up or the very least a trip to HR for noticing? The workplace needs to be clinical, until we figure out how to work together.


While it’s quite the double standard, many businesses expect women to appear
professional and polished, which includes, wearing makeup. I’ve even heard
some say their employer’s dress code was for a woman to be “date ready”.
This weight of make up or no make up can’t all be put on a woman. And men
are responsible for their actions.

bobtail76's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:33 PM
Edited by bobtail76 on Tue 01/05/21 07:44 PM
Dress codes are legit.... an employer forcing to wearing make-up is harassment and a lawsuit waiting to happen, knowing that, women are CHOOSING to wear make-up to work, essentially sexualizing the work place.

The weight of make-up CAN be put on women, because the dudes aren't the ones that wear it and nobody is forcing women to wear it.

I agree men are responsible for their actions, but there should be an equal law applied, so that the workplace is not sexualized so that sexual harassment at the workplace is minimized. I'm on the side of less sexual harassment and believe there are many things that can help. Not wearing make-up in the workplace should be women's part of the equation, until we figure out how to work together

Bastet127's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:44 PM

Dress codes are legit.... an employer forcing to wearing make-up is harassment and a lawsuit waiting to happen, knowing that, women are CHOOSING to wear make-up to work, essentially sexualizing the work place.

The weight of make-up CAN be put on women, because it the dudes aren't the ones that wear it and nobody is forcing them to wear it.

I agree men are responsible for their actions, but there should be an equal law applied, so that the workplace is not sexualized so that sexual harassment at the workplace is minimized


An employer can has a dress code, and if you take the job, you’re agreeing to the code.
There’s no lawsuit in that. And if men are reponsible, then there should be no sexual
harassment.

HankinOH's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:44 PM
Every time I try to handle an attractive woman she calls the police.


I'm sorry, I could not resist.

no photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:48 PM
I thought about what Bastet said. If I were to go an interview against 8 other women that were younger than me, and I had no makeup at all, that would be a reason. I would be a plain person.

bobtail76's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:51 PM
A dress code...not make up code. The discussion isn't about men - unless we're discussing men wearing make-up at work. And I think they shouldn't wear make-up either. The workplace should stay clinical. It's obvious we haven't figured out how to work together and it seems like you'd rather just blame men for their actions and not blame women or at the very least not entertain an idea that women have a part in the solution.

bobtail76's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:54 PM

I thought about what Bastet said. If I were to go an interview against 8 other women that were younger than me, and I had no makeup at all, that would be a reason. I would be a plain person.


That would be using sex to sell yourself instead of your resume, which is what I've been talking about all along. We haven't figured out to work together and I don't see how other people don't see that. It's so obvious.

Bastet127's photo
Tue 01/05/21 07:57 PM

A dress code...not make up code. The discussion isn't about men - unless we're discussing men wearing make-up at work. And I think they shouldn't wear make-up either. The workplace should stay clinical. It's obvious we haven't figured out how to work together and it seems like you'd rather just blame men for their actions and not blame women or at the very least not entertain an idea that women have a part in the solution.



It was actually you that turned this into a sexist thing. I was simply pointing out
what women often have to contend with that, you being a man, may not be
aware of.

bobtail76's photo
Tue 01/05/21 08:01 PM
Sure

no photo
Tue 01/05/21 08:10 PM
This topic is still on here? I'm not.

no photo
Wed 01/06/21 01:18 AM
In closing,perhaps its a failed discussion.
If a woman wants to wear "makeup"then thats her choice, dress "sexy" thats her choice. For the man its a double edge sword, compliment her platonically..."that dress suits you" or " lovely eyeliner" and you are branded either a pervert or get a "thankyou" in return.
Do nothing and expect nothing in return. Goes for both sides.

SpaceCodet's photo
Wed 01/06/21 08:28 AM
Edited by SpaceCodet on Wed 01/06/21 08:29 AM
Make-up is used by women just to hide behind as a mask. It once was used as a cheap form of cosmic surgery, the occasional to doll up for women to peacock and working in the sun such as the desert.

Women over 35 buy three times the amount of make-up nowadays then ever in history. Those women of cause are single and use that to try to get men to marry them. Then the men see what they look like without the mask and leave. That's because women wrecked themselves with bad diets and other negative things.


bobtail76's photo
Wed 01/06/21 09:17 AM

Make-up is used by women just to hide behind as a mask. It once was used as a cheap form of cosmic surgery, the occasional to doll up for women to peacock and working in the sun such as the desert.

Women over 35 buy three times the amount of make-up nowadays then ever in history. Those women of cause are single and use that to try to get men to marry them. Then the men see what they look like without the mask and leave. That's because women wrecked themselves with bad diets and other negative things.




I disagree it's to hide behind a mask, it's to accentuate their features. It's the equivalent of a push up bra in a low cut top. Their **** change shape inside their shirt, but it's by no means a mask. It's to make them more attractive - and it does the job.

You can change a look of a car by putting on some sexy rims, but you still know what kinda car it is - and it's not less ugly for the lack of the sexy rims.

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Wed 01/06/21 05:16 PM
Sunglasses. Hiding wrinkles.

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Wed 01/06/21 05:55 PM
No doubt there is an evolutionary basis ., maybe cave women used to squash berries on their lips and put a dab of animal fat on their pulse points to improve their allure .

No matter the motivation for wearing cosmetics . It is a form of “strategic presentation”. . Something men are susceptible to as well ., their cosmetics are in the form of assets and resources :wink:

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Wed 01/06/21 06:18 PM
I think that all men should wear face moisturizer lotion, no matter the age.

bobtail76's photo
Wed 01/06/21 06:25 PM
Only smile wrinkles Cat :wink:

bobtail76's photo
Wed 01/06/21 06:31 PM

No doubt there is an evolutionary basis ., maybe cave women used to squash berries on their lips and put a dab of animal fat on their pulse points to improve their allure .

No matter the motivation for wearing cosmetics . It is a form of “strategic presentation”. . Something men are susceptible to as well ., their cosmetics are in the form of assets and resources :wink:


Did they do that before or after the saber tooth tiger chase? I'm pretty sure cavemen just bonked his potential mate on the head and dragged her to his cave - no berries required. Cave-foreplay

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Wed 01/06/21 06:49 PM


No doubt there is an evolutionary basis ., maybe cave women used to squash berries on their lips and put a dab of animal fat on their pulse points to improve their allure .

No matter the motivation for wearing cosmetics . It is a form of “strategic presentation”. . Something men are susceptible to as well ., their cosmetics are in the form of assets and resources :wink:


Did they do that before or after the saber tooth tiger chase? I'm pretty sure cavemen just bonked his potential mate on the head and dragged her to his cave - no berries required. Cave-foreplay
so he chose a “potential “
mate” ., rather than just any available mate . Even back then selection was based on presentation .

bobtail76's photo
Wed 01/06/21 06:55 PM
I think when it came to potential... all it takes is was just a cave woman being there!