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Topic: SOMEBODY'S RAISING THEIR KID RIGHT!
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Tue 12/18/07 08:48 PM

TO Spider:

You're attacking straw man arguments. It's NOT logically impossible to believe in the God of the Bible, and still think he communicated his words to mankind in the form of allegory and metaphor. Many "Christians" don't take the creation or flood stories as literal truth, and yet they retain a strong faith in the orthodox concept of God. It's not an all-or-nothing deal to them. Historical and empirical evidence would invalidate your argument.


Yes, it is. The God of the Bible's actions are described in the Bible. If someone desires to claim that their "god" is the God of the Bible, but "god" did nothing described in the Bible, that is their choice, but it's incorrect. The traditional Jewish and Christian view is that God did those things described in the Bible. Not a difficult concept. If I said "I'm straight, but I have sex with men", then I would actually be bi-sexual. If you say "I believe in the God of the Bible, but I deny the truth of the Bible", that simply makes no sense. Done arguing this one, I'm not here to bat this argument back and forth. If you believe in the God of the Bible, but you deny the truth of the Bible...not sure what you believe in, but it's not the God of the Bible.


Sorry. I don't know what you're getting at, but that claim is nonsensical. Please review.


God is limited to doing only those things which can be done. I can't make it any clearer than that. The silliness of "Can God create a rock too big for God to pick up" does nothing for a debate. Not interested in arguing this. If you want to believe that God would have to do completely impossible things in order to be all powerful, that is your perogative. God can do everything that can be done, you are by definition all powerful.


How is it "logically impossible" for God to put into effect a system where humans have the freedom to choose right or wrong, but choose right without coercion or him intervening? They still retain free will in that instance. An "all powerful" god would have this ability. It's NOT analogous to a square circle though. That argument is illogical by a definitional disproof only.


Because for humans to be able to choose right from wrong, there must be wrong choices. If there are wrong choices and everyone has free will, someone will eventually make that wrong choice. Adam and Eve had only one possible sin and they both commited it. There isn't really anything to discuss here, I've never seen anyone try to argue this point.

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Thu 12/20/07 07:22 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 12/20/07 07:29 PM
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Fri 01/04/08 02:32 AM
Good post and great point. I'd not heard this one before.

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