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Topic: Is it free speech right or discrimination?
Bart's photo
Mon 12/12/22 11:47 AM



it's only discrimination if their not w/straight/Christian but if they are no discrimination. i mean, how can I think otherwise? can anyone think of it happening otherwise?


They want "equal rights" along with some "special rights" to go along with them. Why are there special awards shows for black people?Why do they have the united negro college fund? What do they have affirmative action that says you have to hire a minority if they have the same or even less qualifications? Why do they have a minority clause in some contracts for public projects? Why do we have "gay bars" that cater to a select group?

The government discriminates based on age, they don't let people vote til they are 18 or over, they don't allow people to buy alcohol or tobacco or nicotine products til they are 21. And then there are 55+ communities that don't allow for younger people to live there. Isn't that discrimination? They used to have "ladies night" at bars, but most have stopped doing that because it was considered discrimination.

Should an airline be required to give somebody 2 seats for the price of 1 because the person weighs 450 lbs? Should a buffet be required to charge the same whether you are 100 lbs or 300lbs?

The problem is everyone wants a leg up, a little extra, equal doesn't always really mean equal.

What really gets me is when the president of the United States says he wants a woman of color for the vice president, then he says he will only nominate a black woman for the supreme court without even looking into other candidates. Isn't that the most discriminating thing to do is pick a specific sex and race without giving consideration to others?
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Count me in. X3

TxsGal3333's photo
Tue 12/13/22 09:26 AM
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8404/text

Humm well I had to come back just to post this, which is in the First Amendment and is noted within the Gay's Right to Marriage that is being signed as of now...Just because Gay's have the Right to get Married it does not cross the boundaries of those that do not Acknowledge Gay Marriages due to Religion purposes.. When it comes to their beliefs as a business owner.

It does make All States Acknowledge Gay Marriages as Legal..

(b) Goods or services.—Consistent with the First Amendment to the Constitution, nonprofit religious organizations, including churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, nondenominational ministries, interdenominational and ecumenical organizations, mission organizations, faith-based social agencies, religious educational institutions, and nonprofit entities whose principal purpose is the study, practice, or advancement of religion, and any employee of such an organization, shall not be required to provide services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges for the solemnization or celebration of a marriage. Any refusal under this subsection to provide such services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges shall not create any civil claim or cause of action.


There ya go Biden is signing this now and this clause was put into the Bill for the Right for Gays to get Married..

It clearly states that those that do not Believe in Gay Marriages due to Religion can not be forced to provide them with services ,accommodations etc.

And if they do refuse due to their Beliefs they can not be sued for it..

So then there is no Discrimination it is their Right to Refuse Service when it Pertains to a Gay Marriage if they do not acknowledge Marriage between the same sex due to Religion Beliefs.

The link above takes you to the Bill so you can read it yourself..

Even tho If I had a business I would not have an issue who they want to Marry.. as far as service.. I would have an issue if I was told I had to provide a service to someone that I did not want to regardless what the reason was..

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Tue 12/13/22 11:15 AM
:point_up: Good, so both sides can claim victory.

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