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Topic: Just a question
Peccy's photo
Thu 02/07/08 06:53 PM
I've heard and read a lot of theories on the whole fossil thing and evolution. Evolution seems to make more sense, although I admit there are holes in it.

Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us? If so, why would he do that in knowing that many of us would stray away from him if he does indeed exist?

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 02/07/08 06:54 PM
devil I CREATED ALL THINGS devil

Peccy's photo
Thu 02/07/08 06:57 PM
Well them MM we need to discuss these interest rates then!

ujGearhead's photo
Thu 02/07/08 06:57 PM
Maybe he would plant evidence of other theories to week out the semi-believers? Or he just got bored? Or the government is hiding part of the evidence of evolution to cover up some bigger conspiracy or is using parts of the 'missing link' to create a super soldier?

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Thu 02/07/08 07:00 PM
THE GOVERNMENT HIDES ALL FROM US LITTLE PEONS THAT THEY THINK DONT NEED,NOR HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ANYTHING!!!!!:angry:

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Thu 02/07/08 07:01 PM
Or maybe the reason we haven't found the missing link is because our ancestors were genetically manipulated by aliens, and that's why we're here. laugh

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Thu 02/07/08 07:02 PM

I've heard and read a lot of theories on the whole fossil thing and evolution. Evolution seems to make more sense, although I admit there are holes in it.

Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us? If so, why would he do that in knowing that many of us would stray away from him if he does indeed exist?



Because he created all things, and some fell. So he created us with a free mind so that we would either choose him and be with him forever or choose not to serve him burn forever in eternal hell

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Thu 02/07/08 07:04 PM
if you do some research on it, there is sufficient evidence to support a theory that the flood mentioned in the old testament created physical and geologic conditions sufficient to create fossils and the various changes necessary to substantiate the oddities of carbon dating that produce the expansive numbers that appear to support this earth being billions of years old when the reality is otherwise. There are defects in carbon dating that do not take these factors into consideration. Further than that, I cannot explain. It has been too long since I have read the materials and my degree is not in this field so discussing it further is really something I can't contribute sufficiently. I wish I could remember the authors.

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Thu 02/07/08 07:06 PM


I've heard and read a lot of theories on the whole fossil thing and evolution. Evolution seems to make more sense, although I admit there are holes in it.

Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us? If so, why would he do that in knowing that many of us would stray away from him if he does indeed exist?



Because he created all things, and some fell. So he created us with a free mind so that we would either choose him and be with him forever or choose not to serve him burn forever in eternal hell


Well just remember, to serve him (if you subscribe to that school of thought), doesn't mean just going to church. That has hardly anything to do with it. Serve him with your good deeds towards your fellow men. Going to church on Sunday does nothing for you if you're a douche bag every other day of the week. :smile:

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Thu 02/07/08 07:10 PM



I've heard and read a lot of theories on the whole fossil thing and evolution. Evolution seems to make more sense, although I admit there are holes in it.

Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us? If so, why would he do that in knowing that many of us would stray away from him if he does indeed exist?



Because he created all things, and some fell. So he created us with a free mind so that we would either choose him and be with him forever or choose not to serve him burn forever in eternal hell


Well just remember, to serve him (if you subscribe to that school of thought), doesn't mean just going to church. That has hardly anything to do with it. Serve him with your good deeds towards your fellow men. Going to church on Sunday does nothing for you if you're a douche bag every other day of the week. :smile:




Thats exactly right, just because you are standing in your garage does not make you a car

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Thu 02/07/08 07:11 PM
Great minds...

Peccy's photo
Thu 02/07/08 07:15 PM
Edited by Peccy on Thu 02/07/08 07:15 PM
So in reality crackerjack the earth is only a little over 6000 years old?

KennethP5206's photo
Thu 02/07/08 07:17 PM

So in reality crackerjack the earth is only a little over 6000 years old?

Could be

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Thu 02/07/08 07:30 PM
thier is plenty of evidence in the scriptures that the eath is more than 6000 years. at that point it had been made uninhabital and that is when a recreation took place but this time Yahweh breathed the spirit of man into him.that is where our reasoning/thinking above the animals came..science is right about the earth ade as much as they can determine. Blessings..miles

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Thu 02/07/08 07:51 PM

thier is plenty of evidence in the scriptures that the eath is more than 6000 years. at that point it had been made uninhabital and that is when a recreation took place but this time Yahweh breathed the spirit of man into him.that is where our reasoning/thinking above the animals came..science is right about the earth ade as much as they can determine. Blessings..miles


What scripture supports that belief?

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Thu 02/07/08 08:05 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Thu 02/07/08 08:06 PM

I've heard and read a lot of theories on the whole fossil thing and evolution. Evolution seems to make more sense, although I admit there are holes in it.

Did God just put all this evidence here to confuse us? If so, why would he do that in knowing that many of us would stray away from him if he does indeed exist?



Fossils take millions of years to form, right? Nope. Fossils form extremely quickly, within a matter of days or weeks. Otherwise, you wouldn't have fossilized impressions of soft tissue.

It's because some Christians have accepted lies (fossils take millions of years to form!) that they resorted to stupid claims like "The fossils were put there by satan!". Geologic layers supposedly take millions of years to form, but the eruption of Mt St Helens created dozens of seperate layers and several canyons...one 700' deep through solid rock. Imagine a flood, a huge flood...a world wide flood. One would get a fossil record that looked exactly like the one we have. Aquatic fossils first, followed by creatures greater on the food chain, with the most intelligent creatures fossilized last (they avoided being killed by the flood the longest). Think about the so-called Cambrian explosion. We have fossilized sponges and very simple animals and then suddenly fossilized members of every phyla. No slow transition, just a huge freaking explosion of life.

Fossils and the geologic layers are a perfect example of how Christians are taking the objective information we have and applying new subjective ideas to explain the information. We aren't denying the fossils, far from it, we embrace the fossil record as more clearly supporting creation than evolution.

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Thu 02/07/08 08:30 PM
Gen 1:1-2

In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.
NKJV
1 thing he had not started creating or recreating yet.


Isa 66:1

"Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool
NKJV


Isa 14:13
For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of Elohim;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north ;
NKJV
Ps 90:4
4 For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it is pass
NKJV


Heb 13:8
Yahshua our Messiah is the same yesterday , today, and forever.
NKJV



Now looking at all this do you think Yahweh is only 6 days old? He also says I am Yahweh I change not..............

Yahweh is limitless. The Earth is where he chose as his footstool.. Unless we believe Yahweh is 6 days old by his time. and before this he had some place else as his footstool. This is what I have been trying to say forever on here. You have been taught tradition not scripture. You will even when reading something and it goes against what you have been taught decide you just must not understand. Religion brainwashes people to not think. When you brainwash people you teach them cues or phrases. This is what is done from childhood and your mind can not break away from it. Think really hard and see if that is true. May Yahweh Bless All of Us....Miles

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Thu 02/07/08 08:35 PM

Gen 1:1-2

In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was hovering over the face of the waters.
NKJV
1 thing he had not started creating or recreating yet.


Isa 66:1

"Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool
NKJV


Isa 14:13
For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of Elohim;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north ;
NKJV
Ps 90:4
4 For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it is pass
NKJV


Heb 13:8
Yahshua our Messiah is the same yesterday , today, and forever.
NKJV



Now looking at all this do you think Yahweh is only 6 days old? He also says I am Yahweh I change not..............

Yahweh is limitless. The Earth is where he chose as his footstool.. Unless we believe Yahweh is 6 days old by his time. and before this he had some place else as his footstool. This is what I have been trying to say forever on here. You have been taught tradition not scripture. You will even when reading something and it goes against what you have been taught decide you just must not understand. Religion brainwashes people to not think. When you brainwash people you teach them cues or phrases. This is what is done from childhood and your mind can not break away from it. Think really hard and see if that is true. May Yahweh Bless All of Us....Miles


DUDE! The earth is my footstool is God speaking of how vast his power is. Do you really think God rests his feet on earth? What you are saying is that the earth is as old as God, which isn't true at all.

God created the earth without form in Genesis 1:1. There is absolutely no scriptural support for the pre-earth theory. You really need to rethink this.

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Thu 02/07/08 08:43 PM
Thier brain washing Yahweh says it is his footstool. It can mean whatever.

The simple fact is nowhere does the bible say the earth is 6000 years old.You do not want to accept that he is the same yesterday today and tommorrow. The hebrew is recreate and tommorrow i will try to post it..But these are all programed lies that your mind refuses to let go of and accept the truth..Blessings....Miles

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Thu 02/07/08 08:53 PM

Thier brain washing Yahweh says it is his footstool. It can mean whatever.

The simple fact is nowhere does the bible say the earth is 6000 years old.You do not want to accept that he is the same yesterday today and tommorrow. The hebrew is recreate and tommorrow i will try to post it..But these are all programed lies that your mind refuses to let go of and accept the truth..Blessings....Miles


The Hebrew is "bara'", which means "to create". Here's a link to a lexicon: http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H01254&Version=kjv

Asah means "to make". Neither word means "re-create".

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