Topic: Should men have a say in....
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Sun 04/05/09 02:52 PM
Interesting that a woman can force the man to pay child support for the child even if he wants nothing to do with her or the child.
Failure to pay child support can lead to loss of any license he holds, to practice nursing, medicine, pilots license, etc.
Failure to pay can land a man in jail.
Yet he has no say in the matter.
The woman can abort the child even if he wants the child to raise either with or without the woman's continued involvement.
The father has no legal rights in the decision, yet is legally bound by decisions she alone makes.

justaguy1821's photo
Sun 04/05/09 04:50 PM
If only one of the parents wants the child that person should be given the right and responsibility of a child. The other person should not be able to interfer with that. Both people decided to have the sex, so if she doesnt want the child and he does she should not be alowed to kill the baby. Unless this a rape of coarse. However if neither parent wants the baby, This poor childs destiny could be worse than death. If bouth parents are loving and nurturing parents and both want to be a part of this childs life but cannot get along with each other please just give the child happiness when you can and be for them.

therapy30's photo
Mon 04/06/09 10:37 AM

Interesting that a woman can force the man to pay child support for the child even if he wants nothing to do with her or the child.
Failure to pay child support can lead to loss of any license he holds, to practice nursing, medicine, pilots license, etc.
Failure to pay can land a man in jail.
Yet he has no say in the matter.
The woman can abort the child even if he wants the child to raise either with or without the woman's continued involvement.
The father has no legal rights in the decision, yet is legally bound by decisions she alone makes.


Interesting point.

littlecutie36's photo
Mon 04/06/09 11:22 AM
In my opinion, It is totally the woman's decision,

I don't know about anybody else but I am the one getting up in the middle of the night to feed the baby,sad

I am the one who has to work two jobs to clothe the baby.sad

I am the one who has to cry all day and night when HE decides our relationship is not working out.

Hell NO!

its nobody's decision but the woman's.rant

MsCarmen's photo
Mon 04/06/09 12:17 PM

In my opinion, It is totally the woman's decision,

I don't know about anybody else but I am the one getting up in the middle of the night to feed the baby,sad

I am the one who has to work two jobs to clothe the baby.sad

I am the one who has to cry all day and night when HE decides our relationship is not working out.

Hell NO!

its nobody's decision but the woman's.rant


If he decides that he wants to be the one to take on those responsibilities, then how can it be just the woman's decision?

Personally, I am against abortion. But I'm not against others making that decision. Having said that, if the father is willing to take on all of the responsibility of taking care of the child, then why shouldn't he be involved in the decision?


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Mon 04/06/09 12:20 PM
I have no business whatsoever telling a woman what to do with her own body.


therapy30's photo
Mon 04/06/09 12:23 PM

I have no business whatsoever telling a woman what to do with her own body.




It takes two to make a baby. It can be an important decision for a father.

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Mon 04/06/09 01:00 PM


I have no business whatsoever telling a woman what to do with her own body.




It takes two to make a baby. It can be an important decision for a father.


I would never be in that position, so it does not apply to me.


no photo
Mon 04/06/09 03:15 PM

In my opinion, It is totally the woman's decision,

I don't know about anybody else but I am the one getting up in the middle of the night to feed the baby,sad

I am the one who has to work two jobs to clothe the baby.sad

I am the one who has to cry all day and night when HE decides our relationship is not working out.

Hell NO!

its nobody's decision but the woman's.rant


Why isn't he paying child support?

Jess642's photo
Mon 04/06/09 05:06 PM
Something I counsel young people with....managed contraception.

It takes two people to conceive a child.

No one single person manages contraception, if in a relationship.

BOTH DO.

If a man does not want to parent a child in this part of his life...he uses contraceptives...spermicide, condoms...

If a woman doesn't want to be a parent in this part of her life, she manages her fertility, ALSO... contraceptives...the pill, a bar,iud, a cap, spermicide.

DISCUSS it prior to sex.

Know each others views...be clear...and if in the event of an unplanned pregnancy, be clear on what you would do...BEFORE faced with it.

it's a contract.... it's full disclosure...it's called being responsible.

Baabs's photo
Mon 04/06/09 05:16 PM

Interesting that a woman can force the man to pay child support for the child even if he wants nothing to do with her or the child.
Failure to pay child support can lead to loss of any license he holds, to practice nursing, medicine, pilots license, etc.
Failure to pay can land a man in jail.
Yet he has no say in the matter.
The woman can abort the child even if he wants the child to raise either with or without the woman's continued involvement.
The father has no legal rights in the decision, yet is legally bound by decisions she alone makes.



I had to comment about the child support thing. It took the man also to not use protection. It's not like a good reason to abort your child is to not pay child support.

therapy30's photo
Tue 04/07/09 07:10 AM
Edited by therapy30 on Tue 04/07/09 07:11 AM


Interesting that a woman can force the man to pay child support for the child even if he wants nothing to do with her or the child.
Failure to pay child support can lead to loss of any license he holds, to practice nursing, medicine, pilots license, etc.
Failure to pay can land a man in jail.
Yet he has no say in the matter.
The woman can abort the child even if he wants the child to raise either with or without the woman's continued involvement.
The father has no legal rights in the decision, yet is legally bound by decisions she alone makes.



I had to comment about the child support thing. It took the man also to not use protection. It's not like a good reason to abort your child is to not pay child support.


:thumbsup:

Jtevans's photo
Tue 04/07/09 07:12 AM

I am pro-life nobody has the say to end the childs life brokenheart


same here.....well except for when it comes to executing a prisoner,than i say Kill'em All!

Nova86's photo
Tue 04/07/09 07:24 AM
i believe that they should reach the decision together....however, i do believe that it is the woman's body and that she has the FINAL say in the matter.....

hopefully i will never run across this predicament

therapy30's photo
Tue 04/07/09 10:06 AM
Lot of people's are saying "it is a women's body", fine, I agree. But whats man's fault in this. What if he wish to keep a baby and women doesn't.

Nova86's photo
Tue 04/07/09 10:17 AM

Lot of people's are saying "it is a women's body", fine, I agree. But whats man's fault in this. What if he wish to keep a baby and women doesn't.


it isn't the man's FAULT at all....but i feel that the man is not the one that will have to endure the pregnancy and the effects of it....that is like telling a skinny person to where a fatsuit all the time because someone else will get something out of it...it ultimately comes down to her choice because she is the one in the position of power seeing as it is in HER body

JMO

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:05 AM

their GF's decision of keeping or aborting baby ?

It takes both a man and a woman to make a child is because nature
knew it would take both a man and a woman to raise that child. When the man shrugs his paternal obligation, the woman is left with burden that wasn’t meant to be shouldered by one person.

What are your views friends ???




Should have a say if he is still holding out. Not much say, but some. Her body, her choice ultimately, but it is nice to take in the other persons thoughts.

If he walked out, completly her decision...he forfeited his right to have a view.

Pink_lady's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:48 AM
Personally, i think the father should have a say when it comes to making that decision, altho ultimately, the woman has the final say, purely because the baby is growing in her body, even tho she couldnt have made it happen without him. If 2 ppl create a situation, then 2 ppl need to decide how to proceed, its not rocket science.

More importantly, ppl should just make sure they use protection if either/both of them dont want to have children.


lilith401's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:54 AM
Possession is 9/10's of the law.

7z3r05's photo
Tue 04/07/09 11:58 AM
Edited by 7z3r05 on Tue 04/07/09 11:59 AM
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