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Topic: Ethical Dilemma
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Thu 04/09/09 01:55 PM
If its obvious your company is hiring why does he need you to be his spokes person. Just tell him look go down and apply for the jobs. But don't use me as a reference or expect you to tap your resources ( your rep) to help you get him a job. Then site your reasons. Why jepordize your friends at work for his lack of responsibilty? I know I wouldn't. And I would tell him why. he had his chance 6 months ago should of taken the offer then. But then you weren't aware of his "losing habits".. And now you are.... friends are friends and they come and they go...jmo

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Thu 04/09/09 02:05 PM

Okay.. This is Relationship advice. One normally used for man to woman, or woman to man. Mine refers to me and a buddy.

I told my buddy (friend of a friend, to be exact) about 5 or 6 months ago, when he was looking for work, that I could use my rep at work to get him on there. In the meantime, he has managed to get himself fired from 3 different jobs, and asked me the other day if I could still try to get him a job.

Dilemma: I have seen through the last 5 or 6 months that he has the work ethic of... Someone that doesn't like to work.

Now, I'm not willing to put my rep at work in jeopardy for him. Not that I'm worried about losing my job, but I AM worried that in this crappy economy, a true friend that's willing to bust their butt for 40+ hours a week will need the same favor, and then they'd be SOL due to this guy.

Any advice?

I would sit him down and tell him quite honestly that while I did offer to help him get a job. I am not sure if he really wants me to do that anymore since if I am asked I will tell the truth and let's face even though you are a great friend. "Your work ethic's suck at the very least they don't coincide with mine. Are you sure you want me to say anything at my place of employment. I would then expect all hell to break loose and well I would let the chips fall where they may..

I stand by honesty is the best policy and giving your word is a bond stronger than any written word most of the time.

Good luck..

I hope you have learned something from this about jumping to help a friend could come back and bite you in the butt.

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Thu 04/09/09 03:18 PM
Yeah man...friends are friends...but, business is business. I know that around our shop..when someone brings in a slacker...we let him know that "I am pulling your friends dead weight"...guys notice that kind of thing.

Just tell him to go fill out an app. Then off to the side...tell the human resources manager or who ever does the hiring..."Look, the guy is my friend/neighbor...he ain't gonna work"

I have done this more than once.

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Thu 04/09/09 04:50 PM
Edited by woodford on Thu 04/09/09 04:51 PM
years ago I got a friend a job where I worked. It didnt work out becouse my reputation was sullied do to his lack off ethic.

Later in life I was aproched by a guy who wanted me to hire him for a position I was interviewing canidates for. He thought that becouse we had gone to school together he was going to be my choice. Unfortunatly for him I had to say that he was not the ideal canditate for this position due to the ethic he had in school. he was upset and never called me again.

I figure if that guy could not see the line between friend and work or reality and fiction then I realy didnt need his friendship in the first place.

ps, it took me a week to call him and say what i ended up saying as it was hard to not want to lie and take the easy way out. or just hire him and carry him with loss to my own productivity.

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Thu 04/09/09 05:43 PM
Actually, there are a couple of people i know(friendly acquaintances) that periodically ask me about jobs where i work. I tell them i will let them know if anything comes up. We are actually looking to employ a couple of people at the moment, but these people do not come across as if they would be fully capable of doing what i do. There is no chance in hell i am going to lay my reputation on the line for them. Especially as i would be working with them directly and any incompetancies they might have would just make my job more difficult.

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