Topic: Mental Illness - myth or science?
Redykeulous's photo
Tue 12/31/13 09:25 PM
HanaHasna wrote:
In my country.....and in my opinion + experiences , happiness is all about 'balance'
if any one lost their balance and cause others unhappiness, suffering, hurting or damaged others....
They should be called 'bad person'

The best way to heal our wounds is to 'forgive them' the best way to protect yourself is 'never forget it'

It's so simple !!!!!!
Don' t try to understand why they are like this or like that and giving them may good names of their condition, symptom.
It would be better to analyse our self and awareness living with 'mindfulness'



This is a good demonstration of 'cultural' differences that actually affect our health. In the United States, the mental illness schizophrenia is currently treated with a variety of medications and many of them can have difficult side effects. But here, in the U.S. we don't want to deal with friends, co-workers, or family members who have these kind of issues. We want to give them a pill and make that person better. mad

But in some countries, perhaps where HanaHasna lives, people with schizophrenia may only be treated with medicine for a very short time to get the disorder under control. Other than that, the whole community helps that person to work through the issues. That person may never be the same person they were before, but believe it or not, that person is usually still a valued and productive member of the community.

That doesn't usually happen here, because we are an individualist culture. It sounds like HanaHasna is from a collectivist culture because they are 'mindful' of their own actions and the effect they may have on others. There's more security for people who become ill in collectivist culture because the community is more naturally patient and understanding.

In other words, how we feel about ourselves and our ability to overcome an illness may have a great deal to do with the culture we were raised in.


izzyphoto1977's photo
Tue 12/31/13 10:04 PM
I believe in mental illnesses because I'm sure I have most of them. lol

uche9aa's photo
Tue 12/31/13 11:18 PM

I believe in mental illnesses because I'm sure I have most of them. lol
Name them and let me start the psycho-therapy on you immediately

vanaheim's photo
Thu 01/02/14 02:16 AM
Well for armchair diagnoses you can toss the DSM-IV right out the window.

The primary condition absolutely required for any diagnoses of mental illness, prelimenary to any further diagnoses, is the simple question: is the patient in distress?

It's at the top of the list on the internationally standardised mental competency assessment sheet. Saw it working at a psych ward before I went back to auto industry. CAT-team was called out often.
Also 3 independent qualified authorities have to sign off on mental incompetency, 2 psychiatric medical doctors (neurologist and psychiatrist typically), and a clinical psychologist (social sciences, brings the humanism).

Point is democratic representation elicits that if an individual is perfectly happy with their own, lawful behaviour, they cannot possibly be in any way abhorrent, aberrant or antisocial. Maybe they're just lonely where they are at the moment.

Cruella64's photo
Fri 07/24/15 09:46 AM
I can assure mental
Illness is certainly not a myth I have been living with one for thirty years misdiagnosed until two years ago I would not wish a mental illness on anyone it's a living prison sentence.Also research has moved on from fifty or sixty years ago and a lot of cntributing factors in metal illness studied. Environmental , biological , Rffecys of trauma in childhood etc studies als prove brains of individual Ms with certain mental illness are different to people without proven by MRI scans

Cutiepieforyou's photo
Fri 07/24/15 09:53 AM
I don't believe mental illness is a myth. Many people suffer from mental illness all over the world.

metalwing's photo
Fri 07/24/15 10:55 AM
There have been many advances in mental health research, diagnoses, and treatment. The fMRI shows brain activity which allows the comparison of a typical brain to one which is malfunctioning. Drug effects can also be measured as well as the mood, emotional, and functional aspects of the person being treated.


msharmony's photo
Fri 07/24/15 12:02 PM

What a stigma those two words can inflict – “mental illness”.

It is interesting to note that “mental illness” constitutes a condition where in a person can be incarcerated, drugged and/or tortured (e.g. electro-convulsive therapy and psychosurgery) against their will, with no legal recourse whatsoever.

Unlike our legal system wherein every person has the right to legal defense, a person diagnosed with a mental illness has no right to “medical defense”.

The most disturbing aspect of this is that the proponents of “mental health” claim that it is a “medical condition”. But unlike true medical conditions where a person has the right to accept or refuse medical treatment, the “mentally ill” have no such right. “Treatments” can be physically forced on them.

It is also interesting to note that 60 years ago, there were less than a dozen recognized “mental illnesses”. But DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) lists over 300. And NIMH (National Institue for Mental Health) says “An estimated 26.2 percent of Americans ages 18 and older — about one in four adults — suffer from a diagnosable mental disorder in a given year.” Where did they all come from??? According to Professor of Psychiatry Emeritus, Dr. Thomas Szasz, they were simply invented, unlike true medical conditions which are discovered.

Now considering that virtually 100% of all so-called “mental illness” is based on nothing more than subjective evaluations of behaviour (ref: the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders), with no objective physical diagnostic procedures based on physiology, (because they don’t exist), and the fact that a person so diagnosed can be incarcerated against their will, we really do have what amounts to a loophole in “due process”.



I consider most psychiatry a 'pseudo science' there to define the norm in place by the powers that be at any given time,,,,


and originally to 'excuse' the actions of those with enough wealth to afford doctors and medicine when they do otherwise unacceptable things,,,


Dodo_David's photo
Fri 07/24/15 12:37 PM
The mental illness called depression is no myth.

Ladywind7's photo
Fri 07/24/15 05:19 PM
To know someone with a mental illness soon wakes you up to the fact it is not a myth. Their suffering is real and debilitating.
Psychiatrists, psychologists and medication have alleviated so much suffering and saved lives.
People who suffer with a severe mental illness sometimes are incapable of helping themselves and need intervention, especially when trying to end their suffering by harming themselves.
They genuinely are not thinking normally and need intervention.
This is a huge topic.....


msharmony's photo
Fri 07/24/15 06:18 PM

I have autism. Believe me, the damn things are real.


affected physically, by neurodevelopment,, it could be considered mental disorder


however, I believe the majority of psychiatry diagnoses 'illnesses' which have no physical basis and only based on behaviors,,,and moods,,,

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Fri 07/24/15 06:28 PM
Myth

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Sat 07/25/15 01:09 AM

I don't believe mental illness is a myth. Many people suffer from mental illness all over the world.


I agree ^^^^^ flowerforyou

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Sat 07/25/15 02:48 AM
It is real, but can be often over-diagnosed and over-treated.

Many diagnosed with certain mental illnesses may more likely be due to unresolved emotional turmoil. The diagnosis of mental illness can be used as a label...makes things "manageable" .

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Sat 07/25/15 03:03 AM
Edited by Scoobert on Sat 07/25/15 03:03 AM
<<<<<knows it's reality and existence. ohwell

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Sat 08/01/15 11:45 AM
Edited by JeffreyWhittaker on Sat 08/01/15 11:48 AM
You are so right about mental illness. I started hearing voices when I was meditating on why demons exist. I wanted to know if Hell was real. I now know after twenty four years of hearing demonic insanity that some people suffer from cognitive deficiency, which leads to frustration because of the lack of ability to succeed. In other words, some people live in Hell. I am lucky enough to be able to keep above believing false beliefs, but many people try to deceive you causing mental illness.

JeffreyWhittaker's photo
Sat 08/01/15 11:52 AM
Mental illness is different for those who are relativists and those who are absolutists. Relativists believe untrue things are true sometimes. This is called "delusion" by psychiatrists. Absolutists avoid false beliefs because they demand proof for their beliefs. They are more immune to mental illness. Those who think rationally have a more well defined reality than those who think in relative terms.

TMommy's photo
Sat 08/01/15 11:56 AM

It is real, but can be often over-diagnosed and over-treated.

Many diagnosed with certain mental illnesses may more likely be due to unresolved emotional turmoil. The diagnosis of mental illness can be used as a label...makes things "manageable" .


if you are talking about depression the percentage of those suffering from an actual chemical imbalance is fairly small when compared to the amount of people being diagnosed with depression

but that does not make it any less real from those suffering from it
and many still do find some relief with presciption meds but...



therapy..specifically cognitive behavioral therapy is often recommended

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Tue 08/04/15 11:55 PM
http://www.continuingedcourses.net/active/courses/course067.php

Missing The Diagnosis: The Hidden Medical Causes of Mental Disorders
by William Matteson, Ph.D.

:thumbsup:

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Wed 08/05/15 05:33 AM
the brain is a organ just like you liver and skin, and we can get liver and skin diseases, so why is the brain any different? if not more so when the brain produces so many chemical reactions.