Topic: Mental Illness - myth or science?
Boaz8's photo
Fri 11/29/13 11:01 AM



“mental illnesses”. Where did they all come from???



Chemical imbalances in the brain.






I agree caused by nutritional deficiency,
Too many toxins from food (GMOs' n pesticides n synthizied fertilizers) n medicine the synthisized kind of medicine not from a live source leave toxins in your body causing other problems.
It ends up being a vicious cycle. You go to Dr. get a perscription, then get side effects causing more issues, so you go to Doc again. Get more meds, til you are broke n in the grave.
We get oxygen in the air we breath, in the water we drink, and even in the food we eat. But our bodies still don't get enough oxygen.
Proof!
Read this book!!! Oxygen Healing Therapies by Nathaniel Altman
If your body has enough oxygen it can heal almost anything.
www.Inner Traditions.com. $19
Yes even AIDs, cancer, skin conditions, arthritis, her pies, hearing losses...
It is like a panacea.

Besides that I suppose trauma situations some people go through can be traumatic enough to cause mental illness.
In their cases I would try to overcome the fear and forgive.
Easyier said than done!

May Almighty God help those who have mental illnesses overcome them.
And May we find more compassion to serve them better!



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Sat 11/30/13 02:24 PM

Mental illness is real and the DSM-V, aka the Book of Woe is a necessary evil, ie- insurance payments, who is gonna pay for a diagnosis of "person is unhappy"? May I suggest that people who are in need or interested explore the psychiatric rehabilitation and recovery models because people can and do recover from mental health issues.


Some can and others can not.

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Sat 11/30/13 03:36 PM
There are 7 billion people living on this planet now. Do you really think that life is all that and a box of crackers for everyone?

Mental illness is relief from whatever reality they escaped

Those who believe we should all live in the same reality and follow the rest of the sheep are determined to pull the mentally ill back whether they like it or
not [egotistical maniacs]

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Wed 12/04/13 08:23 PM
Some of the problems with the idea of mental illnesses are over over-diagnosing, labeling, forced treatment (sometimes comparable to torture), and police robbing "mentally ill" people. Do people with mental disorders get treated the same as people who are mentally ill? A lot of ignorant people assume that mentally ill people are violent psychopaths even when there is no indication or history of violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ukrWC0lns

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Wed 12/04/13 09:28 PM
Mental illness does exist. There are many factors that contribute such as GMO's ie: the food we consume, traumatic events and genetic makeup. However, I do believe pharmaceutical companies profit from made up conditions that are nothing more than excuses for the inability to deal with the realities of life. Media/technology have and are creating a population of instant gratification personalities. When life doesn't appear to be a non stop experience of blissful happiness, many do not have coping tools due to belief in what they are told happiness is supposed to look like. Also superficial images that make people judge themselves as ugly or dysfunctional. While mental illness is real and should not be stigmatized, the PERCEPTION thereof is used for profits and mass control through medication and unrealistic understanding about the various realities about life. The mind is powerful. Our thoughts manifest our realities.

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Thu 12/05/13 06:32 AM
Being a survivor of a mental breakdown at age 23, I promised myself to never let myself go there again...I had rheumatic fever at age 11 and was bedridden for 4 months, married at 18 1/2, and had 4 children by the time I was 24.. When I was 2 months pregnant with my last child, I fell apart.. I remember trying to tell people around me there was something wrong but it was like I was speaking a language no one understood. After being hospitalized (12 days) and having 7 electro-shock treatments I was sent home. The meds were either too strong or not strong enough. After 6 months I told my dr. I didn't want to be on anything. I had 3 small children and was expecting again. It took me about 2 years before I felt normal again, couldn't remember names but recognized faces, and my dr wife committed suicide..(I thought, what kind of dr is he that he couldn't prevent that). My dr said that the rheumatic fever was a trama and some other family problems plus having 4 kids in 5 years was too much for my body to handle. Shuting down was my bodys way of protecting me... That was in the mid 60's. I used to talk to high school kids that were having problems, hoping I could keep them from going thru the hell I went thru. My way of giving back. One girl that was having an identity problems(her mom insisted there was not a problem) now goes out of her way to say hello if she sees me. She's now happily married with 2 children.
Some people still see mental illness as being evil but its not something you want or wish for. Most often its a chemical imbalance so don't be afraid to ask for help.. It happens and you need as much support that you can get from family and friends..I was lucky..
(sorry for this being so long)

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Thu 12/05/13 10:06 AM
... While mental illness is real and should not be stigmatized ...


Thank you for acknowledging that. flowerforyou

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Thu 12/05/13 01:09 PM
Edited by cuddlebunny00 on Thu 12/05/13 01:11 PM




“mental illnesses”. Where did they all come from???



Chemical imbalances in the brain.






I agree caused by nutritional deficiency,
Too many toxins from food (GMOs' n pesticides n synthizied fertilizers) n medicine the synthisized kind of medicine not from a live source leave toxins in your body causing other problems.
It ends up being a vicious cycle. You go to Dr. get a perscription, then get side effects causing more issues, so you go to Doc again. Get more meds, til you are broke n in the grave.
We get oxygen in the air we breath, in the water we drink, and even in the food we eat. But our bodies still don't get enough oxygen.
Proof!
Read this book!!! Oxygen Healing Therapies by Nathaniel Altman
If your body has enough oxygen it can heal almost anything.
www.Inner Traditions.com. $19
Yes even AIDs, cancer, skin conditions, arthritis, her pies, hearing losses...
It is like a panacea.

Besides that I suppose trauma situations some people go through can be traumatic enough to cause mental illness.
In their cases I would try to overcome the fear and forgive.
Easyier said than done!

May Almighty God help those who have mental illnesses overcome them.
And May we find more compassion to serve them better!




I think its got more to do with how a person handles life and the way they deal wit it

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Thu 12/05/13 03:19 PM
Edited by Dodo_David on Thu 12/05/13 03:21 PM


I agree caused by nutritional deficiency,
Too many toxins from food (GMOs' n pesticides n synthizied fertilizers) n medicine the synthisized kind of medicine not from a live source leave toxins in your body causing other problems.
It ends up being a vicious cycle. You go to Dr. get a perscription, then get side effects causing more issues, so you go to Doc again. Get more meds, til you are broke n in the grave.
We get oxygen in the air we breath, in the water we drink, and even in the food we eat. But our bodies still don't get enough oxygen.
Proof!
Read this book!!! Oxygen Healing Therapies by Nathaniel Altman
If your body has enough oxygen it can heal almost anything.
www.Inner Traditions.com. $19
Yes even AIDs, cancer, skin conditions, arthritis, her pies, hearing losses...
It is like a panacea.


The American Cancer Society reports that oxygen therapy does not cure cancer.

Dr. Karl S. Kruszelnicki writes the following:

About once every decade, the Oxygen Healing myth bubbles to the surface again. Loosely speaking, it claims that all diseases are caused by low levels of oxygen in the body. If you buy brand X or Y or Z's oxygen product, you are guaranteed perfect health. The oxygen treatments go under various names - from the snappy oxyrich, liquid O2, and Vitamin O to the alarmingly scientific hyperoxygenation, oxidology, oxymedicine, and bio-oxidative therapy. Unfortunately for the sufferers of the various diseases, oxygen therapy doesn't cure any of them. (Of course this doesn't include the few heart and lung illnesses where the sufferers need to inhale extra oxygen just to stay alive).

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Thu 12/05/13 04:48 PM
Edited by cuddlebunny00 on Thu 12/05/13 04:49 PM



I agree caused by nutritional deficiency,
Too many toxins from food (GMOs' n pesticides n synthizied fertilizers) n medicine the synthisized kind of medicine not from a live source leave toxins in your body causing other problems.
It ends up being a vicious cycle. You go to Dr. get a perscription, then get side effects causing more issues, so you go to Doc again. Get more meds, til you are broke n in the grave.
We get oxygen in the air we breath, in the water we drink, and even in the food we eat. But our bodies still don't get enough oxygen.
Proof!
Read this book!!! Oxygen Healing Therapies by Nathaniel Altman
If your body has enough oxygen it can heal almost anything.
www.Inner Traditions.com. $19
Yes even AIDs, cancer, skin conditions, arthritis, her pies, hearing losses...
It is like a panacea.


The American Cancer Society reports that oxygen therapy does not cure cancer.

Dr. Karl S. Kruszelnicki writes the following:

About once every decade, the Oxygen Healing myth bubbles to the surface again. Loosely speaking, it claims that all diseases are caused by low levels of oxygen in the body. If you buy brand X or Y or Z's oxygen product, you are guaranteed perfect health. The oxygen treatments go under various names - from the snappy oxyrich, liquid O2, and Vitamin O to the alarmingly scientific hyperoxygenation, oxidology, oxymedicine, and bio-oxidative therapy. Unfortunately for the sufferers of the various diseases, oxygen therapy doesn't cure any of them. (Of course this doesn't include the few heart and lung illnesses where the sufferers need to inhale extra oxygen just to stay alive).


Its something to research anyways. My understanding is that once your cells are deprived of oxygen, they die. Some oxygen therapies are useless. I was researching cell food and aerobic oxygen.

http://www.balancedforhealth.com/cellfoodnutritinalbreakthrough.pdf

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Thu 12/05/13 04:51 PM

Mental illness is is a fact . We have many people who do not know what they are doing . Yes mental illnesses can be cured and helped by meds . I know these facts because I know people with such problems .I have no faith in psychology and I do not see it as a science but I know that psychiatry is science .flowerforyou .
Because of the simple fact that there are virtually no objective tests used in the diagnosis of mental illness, I can't agree that psychiatry is science.

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Thu 12/05/13 04:53 PM
Of course the cancer socoety is going to dispute this claim..think about it.

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Thu 12/05/13 05:13 PM

Of course the cancer socoety is going to dispute this claim..think about it.


Uh, the American Cancer Society seeks to find cures for cancer.

Plus, a person with a book to sell wants to motivate people to buy the book.

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Thu 12/05/13 05:22 PM


Of course the cancer socoety is going to dispute this claim..think about it.


Uh, the American Cancer Society seeks to find cures for cancer.

Plus, a person with a book to sell wants to motivate people to buy the book.

The cancer society stands to lose billions if a cure is found.

Plus cellfood and Aerobic oxygen have been around for decades. There is tons of info on them, not just one book.

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Fri 12/06/13 12:17 PM
Using oxygen therapy on cancer patients is a scam.

It appeals to simple minded people who want to believe in magic bullets.

Oxygen therapy is only useful in a few situations - it does NOT cure cancer.

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Fri 12/06/13 12:23 PM
If you want to cure cancer, the thing to do is find someone with a book or product to sell. The best person to believe is someone who doesn't have any real training in oncology. The more charsimatic they are, the better. You know you found a good oracle if they encourage you to believe that *YOU* are better equipped than a profession to understand complex physiological events.

And be wary of the evil, horrible Medical Establishment!

They just want you to be sick, so they can make money off of you!

No matter what you do, do NOT follow the advice from sources like this:


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cancer-prevention/CA00024

You will only get sick and increase your cancer risk if you do crazy things like eat well, avoid tobacco, maintain a healthy weight, etc.

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Fri 12/06/13 02:58 PM
Edited by cuddlebunny00 on Fri 12/06/13 03:25 PM
I don't believe that any one thing can cure cancer except ones strong belief that they will be cured. I do believe that cellfood can be helpful in keeping us a step away from getting cancer, but then again, theres a reason why they call cancer a dis ease.

I wouldn't advise anyone to believe anything without doing their research on natural or chemical cures.

As for pharmaceutical companies, I don't for one second believe that they have our best interests at heart. Do your research on how chemical medicines came about in the first place and why and how we got away from natural medicines.




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Fri 12/06/13 05:21 PM
The people who do the marketing for these things are evil. This is true on both sides of the fence - for science-based treatments and snake oil treatments.

If it wasn't for the laws requiring disclosure, and the fear of liability, the pharm companies would gladly push out drugs that kills a small fraction of its users without even telling them of the risks.

There are a lot of problems with our pharmaceutical industry, but that doesn't make the snake oil industry any better. The snake oil camp tries to make it out to be a 'us vs them' approach, encouraging people to think that way: that somehow the problems with pharma make snake oil better.

Pointing to the problems of Big Pharma can be used as a distraction, to confuse people into thinking the snake oil is okay.

The bottom line is: pharmaceuticals can be dangerous and expensive, and if used should be used with great care. Most 'alternative' medicine is cheaper, but is often *completely worthless*, and much of it should never be used at all, by anyone, as they are only wasting their time and money.

The one place that both parties agree is: lifestyle can make a difference. Eat well, avoid known carcinogens, exercise regularly, sleep well, maintain a healthy weight - these are agree upon methods to lower your risks of certain types of cancer - but you can't change your genetics and you have limited/zero control over many aspects of your environment. Everyone has a non-zero risk of cancer, no matter what we do.



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Sun 12/08/13 10:52 PM
I saw an interesting medical news report yesterday that predicted that 30% of Americans were going to have diabetes in the near future unless their diet changed dramatically.

They recommended that we stop eating sugar and most starch as the average of 26 teaspoons a day (sugar) was killing us and drop to three for women and six for men. They said if we would stop eating sugar and starch, avoid GMO food, and exercise, most diabetes and CANCER! would disappear.

I think I'll go make that platter of Baklava disappear.:smile:

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Wed 12/11/13 11:32 AM
Eleventh commandment?