Topic: Firing Squad
msharmony's photo
Sat 06/19/10 10:18 AM

Death is a part of life. There is no escaping. Some choose their own fate.




I agree with death being a part of life, I just dont agree with it being in Mans hands to decide when others should die,,,or how

s1owhand's photo
Sat 06/19/10 10:30 AM


Death is a part of life. There is no escaping. Some choose their own fate.




I agree with death being a part of life, I just dont agree with it being in Mans hands to decide when others should die,,,or how


some who choose to repeatedly kill others need to be stopped or
they will continue murdering. these people choose to commit these
crimes - perhaps can't control themselves.

so, how to stop them? life in prison? execution?

both execution and life imprisonment mean taking someone else's
life in your hands. execution lasts a few seconds. life imprisonment
lasts 75 years. there are costs to each method. cruelty? who is
to judge the relative cruelty?

if there is a sick sick animal do you chain it up so that it cannot
interact with any other animals and has no freedom to travel or
choose it's own food and activities or do you euthanize her?

suppose the illness is the cumpulsive need to attack other
animals and kill them.

just saying. it is not an easy decision in my opinion.


msharmony's photo
Sat 06/19/10 10:37 AM



Death is a part of life. There is no escaping. Some choose their own fate.




I agree with death being a part of life, I just dont agree with it being in Mans hands to decide when others should die,,,or how


some who choose to repeatedly kill others need to be stopped or
they will continue murdering. these people choose to commit these
crimes - perhaps can't control themselves.

so, how to stop them? life in prison? execution?

both execution and life imprisonment mean taking someone else's
life in your hands. execution lasts a few seconds. life imprisonment
lasts 75 years. there are costs to each method. cruelty? who is
to judge the relative cruelty?

if there is a sick sick animal do you chain it up so that it cannot
interact with any other animals and has no freedom to travel or
choose it's own food and activities or do you euthanize her?

suppose the illness is the cumpulsive need to attack other
animals and kill them.

just saying. it is not an easy decision in my opinion.





I disagree, even if they are in JAIL , they still have a life, however unpleasant. I understand the euthanization standpoint too, although I dont agree with it based on my own personal values( I hold animals and people to different standards)

number96's photo
Sat 06/19/10 11:50 AM
Why not let all the murderers live together and provide them with items that can be used as weapons. Let them decide who should spend life in prison and who should die. They have no problem killing, so let them kill each other.
The only exception should be people who accidentally killed someone, like falling asleep behind the wheel.

s1owhand's photo
Sat 06/19/10 12:18 PM
i wouldn't want to chain anyone up for a life of hopelessness,
captivity and deprivation. i wouldn't even do that to an animal
and i also value human life above that of animals.

no photo
Sat 06/19/10 01:22 PM

Why not let all the murderers live together and provide them with items that can be used as weapons. Let them decide who should spend life in prison and who should die. They have no problem killing, so let them kill each other.
The only exception should be people who accidentally killed someone, like falling asleep behind the wheel.


Problem is, y' still have to spend money feeding and clothing them ... four bullets is cheaper. It's too quick a death, but hey, sometimes y' gotta settle for what y' can get ...

chrisbuckles72's photo
Sat 06/19/10 01:26 PM

Why not let all the murderers live together and provide them with items that can be used as weapons. Let them decide who should spend life in prison and who should die. They have no problem killing, so let them kill each other.
The only exception should be people who accidentally killed someone, like falling asleep behind the wheel.
They already do that.

number96's photo
Sat 06/19/10 05:20 PM


Why not let all the murderers live together and provide them with items that can be used as weapons. Let them decide who should spend life in prison and who should die. They have no problem killing, so let them kill each other.
The only exception should be people who accidentally killed someone, like falling asleep behind the wheel.
They already do that.

Except they aren't given weapons.

chrisbuckles72's photo
Sat 06/19/10 05:33 PM



Why not let all the murderers live together and provide them with items that can be used as weapons. Let them decide who should spend life in prison and who should die. They have no problem killing, so let them kill each other.
The only exception should be people who accidentally killed someone, like falling asleep behind the wheel.
They already do that.

Except they aren't given weapons.
They do'nt have to, anything can be a weapon. a piece of plastic is all it takes. do you think that Maximum security Prisons are not overcrowded with Inmates constantly trying to kill each other?

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 06/19/10 05:49 PM


Death is a part of life. There is no escaping. Some choose their own fate.




I agree with death being a part of life, I just dont agree with it being in Mans hands to decide when others should die,,,or how


But yet, it's perfectly acceptable for a murderer to " decide when " to take someone else's life.

The murderer can't have his or her life taken though. That would just be wrong. THEY have to be provided with food and clothing and health care for the rest of their lives on the taxpayers' dime.

Does anyone else but me see the hypocrisy in statements like that??

What is being provided for the families of the killer's victims?

mightymoe's photo
Sat 06/19/10 06:13 PM
i firmly believe in the death penalty... what i don't believe in is the way they go about it. NO one should be on death row for so long, and all rights should be taken away from them. If he(the person on death row) feels he can take the rights away from others, then he should no rights either... that man he killed had a right to live, as his children had a right to grow up with a father. he took so many basic rights away from a lot of people when he shot the man, so he should have been executed a week later, not 10 years later... it's also our right not to have to pay for his living expenses for the last 10-15 years while he was on death row. just my thoughts, sorry if you don't agree with them.

chrisbuckles72's photo
Sat 06/19/10 08:30 PM

i firmly believe in the death penalty... what i don't believe in is the way they go about it. NO one should be on death row for so long, and all rights should be taken away from them. If he(the person on death row) feels he can take the rights away from others, then he should no rights either... that man he killed had a right to live, as his children had a right to grow up with a father. he took so many basic rights away from a lot of people when he shot the man, so he should have been executed a week later, not 10 years later... it's also our right not to have to pay for his living expenses for the last 10-15 years while he was on death row. just my thoughts, sorry if you don't agree with them.
I do agree in the sense that the Appeals process should not have to take 10 to 15 years, but plenty of convicted murderers have later been exonerated as a result of new discoveries, such as D.N.A. evidence proving Their innocence. What would be worse than executing Someone for something that They did not do?

TonkaTruck3's photo
Sat 06/19/10 09:34 PM
All the whiney liberals saying it costs more to execute them than it does to feed and house them for life are full of ****.

The bullets cost no more than $1 a piece.
All the outrageous costs are directly from the administrative side of the issue...but NOT the act of executing a prisoner itself.

You gonna be able to feed a dirtbag for the rest of his life on $5 dollars?? (they used 5 bullets, and one was a blank).

Once its done, its done....that dirtbag no longer costs the taxpayers any money. But keeping his worthless azz alive would cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not a million or more.

Thank you Utah for getting rid of a piece of crap.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 06/19/10 10:09 PM
There are proven statistics showing how much it cost to execute someone versus giving them life in prison and it costs us more to execute.

Any human who believes murder in any form is a just thing to do is not using all of the brain they have for logic.

State sanctioned murder is still murder.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sat 06/19/10 11:28 PM
Not " murder "

Punishment.

Justice.

number96's photo
Sun 06/20/10 12:31 AM

All the whiney liberals saying it costs more to execute them than it does to feed and house them for life are full of ****.

The bullets cost no more than $1 a piece.
All the outrageous costs are directly from the administrative side of the issue...but NOT the act of executing a prisoner itself.

You gonna be able to feed a dirtbag for the rest of his life on $5 dollars?? (they used 5 bullets, and one was a blank).

Once its done, its done....that dirtbag no longer costs the taxpayers any money. But keeping his worthless azz alive would cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not a million or more.

Thank you Utah for getting rid of a piece of crap.

You are right in saying that it costs a hell of a lot less to execute a person. But you have to look at the big picture, in the end, with as you say the administrative costs with money hungry attorneys and lawyers the price sky rockets. So either limit the time available for lawyers to fight back or have the people on death row finance their own fight. And if they can't, that's their problem.

msharmony's photo
Sun 06/20/10 01:30 AM



Death is a part of life. There is no escaping. Some choose their own fate.




I agree with death being a part of life, I just dont agree with it being in Mans hands to decide when others should die,,,or how


But yet, it's perfectly acceptable for a murderer to " decide when " to take someone else's life.

The murderer can't have his or her life taken though. That would just be wrong. THEY have to be provided with food and clothing and health care for the rest of their lives on the taxpayers' dime.

Does anyone else but me see the hypocrisy in statements like that??

What is being provided for the families of the killer's victims?



its terrible for ANYONE to decide and plan when someone else life should end and how,,,thats why a murderer is called a murderer

it wasnt alright for them, I dont feel its alright for anyone

no photo
Sun 06/20/10 05:09 PM
To begin with I don’t have a problem with the death penalty if it’s proven with out a doubt that they caused the death and it was planed. If they can’t find them guilty on that then I say life at hard labor, I work for a living so why should we have to pay for them to sit on their butts. Were spending more on prisoners then we are on our elderly and that’s just not right. And if they stopped the appeals it would bring the cost down, so what if the damn attorney’s didn’t make as much money.
God forbid we take away any of there damn rights! As far as I’m concerned they lost there rights when the selfishly took the life of another. You may not agree with my point of view but I’m sick and tired of other people telling me how I should feel. You can count on it if someone was to break in to my home I’m not going down with out a fight but with what you’re telling us we should all turn the other cheek.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 06/20/10 05:16 PM
Murder is murder whether it is carried out by an individual or the state...

This individual was given the right to choose his manner of death, I'm still waiting for someone to come and complain about that. He got to pick how he would die...

no photo
Sun 06/20/10 06:06 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 06/20/10 06:07 PM

Murder is murder whether it is carried out by an individual or the state...

This individual was given the right to choose his manner of death, I'm still waiting for someone to come and complain about that. He got to pick how he would die...


Did he give his VICTIMS the same 'right' ... ? I think not ... Why should HE get to choose how he dies ... ?

He forfeited whatever 'rights' he had when he killed his victims.