Topic: "it has served us well…this myth of Christ" Pope LeoX, 1
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Thu 10/14/10 08:30 AM



technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap


Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge.


Holy crap! Did you just admit that we EVOLVED???


Yes we've evolved. Not from apes, but we have evolved. Evolution happens everyday with a simple example of tanning. If one is in the sun alot, their skin evolves and turns darker. If people are in a colder environment, they evolve and tend to have more body fat and so forth. God made this body to withstand and be able to live in any environment on this planet.

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Thu 10/14/10 08:33 AM




technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap


Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge.
well if your talking about the half ape half human remains thay discovered and all that stuff then here is my thoughts on that before when i said that we were the result of a cloning experiment well the flood the is talked about in the bible could be the way thay got rid of the ones that did not turn out right


Except there is no scientific evidence of a world wide flood ever happening...


No evidence they have found YET. We haven't learned everything there is, we are still finding new discoveries. With finding the new discoveries theories change, law's change, alot of things change with the new findings. So who's to say that one day they won't find the evidence for such?

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Thu 10/14/10 08:37 AM

What about the codpiece or jockstrap? I'd want THOSE parts protected too...
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why thank you.happy

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Thu 10/14/10 08:39 AM


God, I wish I could sleep.

Oh crap, was that a prayer?
damn damn damn...frustrated
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No problem. I lusted in my heart about my girlfriend.

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Thu 10/14/10 08:51 AM




technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap


Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge.


Holy crap! Did you just admit that we EVOLVED???


Yes we've evolved. Not from apes, but we have evolved. Evolution happens everyday with a simple example of tanning. If one is in the sun alot, their skin evolves and turns darker. If people are in a colder environment, they evolve and tend to have more body fat and so forth. God made this body to withstand and be able to live in any environment on this planet.



Damn...I was so hoping progress was made. It's clear you have no understanding of what evolution is. Oh well.

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Thu 10/14/10 09:02 AM




Of course at times of judgement there might be use of violence to enforce that judgement.

When someone is judged by a jury and receives the death penalty, if that prisoner tries to rebel will there not be violence used to enforce that judgement?


so everytime Jesus feels a judgement coming on it's ok for him to ignore his own teachings to turn the other cheek and do violence


Redykeulous posted a link that I think you should read...

http://www.zcommunications.org/christian-nonviolence-by-walter-wink


Peter_Pan ...go to the link and bring the author to this forum so that their views can be debated ...if you can not do that..then you read at the link then come back and post a synopsis of what you read in your own words and then I can debate it with you ....


funche, if you can prove to me that you have an understanding of "synopsis", "author" and "debated", then perhaps I'll think about it.


Oh yeah, you must also prove to me that you know what the term "merry-go-round" means in the context that I've used in the past.

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Thu 10/14/10 09:06 AM





technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap


Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge.
well if your talking about the half ape half human remains thay discovered and all that stuff then here is my thoughts on that before when i said that we were the result of a cloning experiment well the flood the is talked about in the bible could be the way thay got rid of the ones that did not turn out right


Except there is no scientific evidence of a world wide flood ever happening...


No evidence they have found YET. We haven't learned everything there is, we are still finding new discoveries. With finding the new discoveries theories change, law's change, alot of things change with the new findings. So who's to say that one day they won't find the evidence for such?


laugh Yeah. Like the no evidence found YET of tiny unicorns living in my sock drawer.
Look, we have really good geological evidence of the weather going back 100's of thousands of years. From all over the planet. A world wide flood would've left evidence everywhere. Such a mass extinction, in such relatively recent times geologically speaking, could NOT go unnoticed. It just couldn't. Our scientists just aren't that incompetent.

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Thu 10/14/10 09:24 AM

I'd scare you more....I think the death penalty should be expanded to cover many more things than it does. Of course, I also think that if someone is executed that is later found to be innocent, the prosecutors should go on trial for murder too.


Well, I certainly never claimed that atheists are any better than religious people. laugh

The only difference is that if I disagree with your ideas and philosophies then it's just my opinion versus yours.

Religious people hold out their hateful ideas in the name of God. So if I object they kick and scream that I'm questioning the wisdom of God. whoa

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Thu 10/14/10 09:29 AM





Of course at times of judgement there might be use of violence to enforce that judgement.

When someone is judged by a jury and receives the death penalty, if that prisoner tries to rebel will there not be violence used to enforce that judgement?


so everytime Jesus feels a judgement coming on it's ok for him to ignore his own teachings to turn the other cheek and do violence


Redykeulous posted a link that I think you should read...

http://www.zcommunications.org/christian-nonviolence-by-walter-wink


Peter_Pan ...go to the link and bring the author to this forum so that their views can be debated ...if you can not do that..then you read at the link then come back and post a synopsis of what you read in your own words and then I can debate it with you ....


funche, if you can prove to me that you have an understanding of "synopsis", "author" and "debated", then perhaps I'll think about it.


Oh yeah, you must also prove to me that you know what the term "merry-go-round" means in the context that I've used in the past.



it was you that asked me to go to the link...what you need to prove is that you can think for yourself and not need to use links ...isn't it enough that you are allowed to google cut and paste bible passage without having to think ...

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Thu 10/14/10 09:57 AM

Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and the one who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery. (Luke 16:18 NAB)

hmmmm....gee i wonder how many have gotten divorced then remarried,oh boy see ya'll in helldrinker laugh



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Thu 10/14/10 10:02 AM


(The Lord Speaking) Do not clip your hair at the temples, nor trim the edges of your beard. (Leviticus 19:27 NAB)

wow but alot of christians are so clean cut

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Thu 10/14/10 10:05 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Thu 10/14/10 10:06 AM

He covers his hands with the lightning, and commands it to strike the mark. Its crashing tells about him; he is jealous with anger against iniquity.



"At this also my heart trembles, and leaps out of its place. Listen, listen to the thunder of his voice and the rumbling that comes from his mouth. Under the whole heaven he lets it loose, and his lightning to the corners of the earth. After it his voice roars; he thunders with his majestic voice and he does not restrain the lightnings when his voice is heard. God thunders wondrously with his voice; he does great things that we cannot comprehend.



For to the snow he says, "Fall on the earth'; and the shower of rain, his heavy shower of rain, serves as a sign on everyone's hand, so that all whom he has made may know it. Then the animals go into their lairs and remain in their dens. From its chamber comes the whirlwind, and cold from the scattering winds. By the breath of God ice is given, and the broad waters are frozen fast. He loads the thick cloud with moisture; the clouds scatter his lightning. They turn round and round by his guidance, to accomplish all that he commands them on the face of the habitable world. Whether for correction, or for his land, or for love, he causes it to happen. (Job 36:32 to 37:13 NRS)

can anyone say ZEUS wanna be,also the earth was still flat(corners?)

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Thu 10/14/10 10:15 AM






technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap


Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge.
well if your talking about the half ape half human remains thay discovered and all that stuff then here is my thoughts on that before when i said that we were the result of a cloning experiment well the flood the is talked about in the bible could be the way thay got rid of the ones that did not turn out right


Except there is no scientific evidence of a world wide flood ever happening...


No evidence they have found YET. We haven't learned everything there is, we are still finding new discoveries. With finding the new discoveries theories change, law's change, alot of things change with the new findings. So who's to say that one day they won't find the evidence for such?


laugh Yeah. Like the no evidence found YET of tiny unicorns living in my sock drawer.
Look, we have really good geological evidence of the weather going back 100's of thousands of years. From all over the planet. A world wide flood would've left evidence everywhere. Such a mass extinction, in such relatively recent times geologically speaking, could NOT go unnoticed. It just couldn't. Our scientists just aren't that incompetent.


Of course there wouldn't be geological evidence of such. The world wasn't like is now then. The flood changed the face of the earth.

Genesis 1:6-8

6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.

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Thu 10/14/10 10:18 AM



(The Lord Speaking) Do not clip your hair at the temples, nor trim the edges of your beard. (Leviticus 19:27 NAB)

wow but alot of christians are so clean cut


But we don't do as it says, we don't shave AT the church "Do not clip your hair at the temples" notice clip your hair AT the temples. Church isn't a place to give attention to your looks, for that is in vein and the church is for worshipping God and not giving mind to ourselves.

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Thu 10/14/10 10:20 AM


He covers his hands with the lightning, and commands it to strike the mark. Its crashing tells about him; he is jealous with anger against iniquity.



"At this also my heart trembles, and leaps out of its place. Listen, listen to the thunder of his voice and the rumbling that comes from his mouth. Under the whole heaven he lets it loose, and his lightning to the corners of the earth. After it his voice roars; he thunders with his majestic voice and he does not restrain the lightnings when his voice is heard. God thunders wondrously with his voice; he does great things that we cannot comprehend.



For to the snow he says, "Fall on the earth'; and the shower of rain, his heavy shower of rain, serves as a sign on everyone's hand, so that all whom he has made may know it. Then the animals go into their lairs and remain in their dens. From its chamber comes the whirlwind, and cold from the scattering winds. By the breath of God ice is given, and the broad waters are frozen fast. He loads the thick cloud with moisture; the clouds scatter his lightning. They turn round and round by his guidance, to accomplish all that he commands them on the face of the habitable world. Whether for correction, or for his land, or for love, he causes it to happen. (Job 36:32 to 37:13 NRS)

can anyone say ZEUS wanna be,also the earth was still flat(corners?)



"can anyone say ZEUS wanna be,also the earth was still flat(corners?)"

Quite possible for the veres i posted in genesis says God changed the world with the flood. So therefore it could have been flat before.

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Thu 10/14/10 10:29 AM


Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)

he creates evil spirits too

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Thu 10/14/10 10:31 AM



Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)

he creates evil spirits too


Try not editing the verses and put what it really says.

1 Samuel 19:9-10

9 Now the distressing spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand. And David was playing music with his hand. 10 Then Saul sought to pin David to the wall with the spear, but he slipped away from Saul’s presence; and he drove the spear into the wall. So David fled and escaped that night.

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Thu 10/14/10 10:33 AM




Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)

he creates evil spirits too


Try not editing the verses and put what it really says.

1 Samuel 19:9-10

9 Now the distressing spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand. And David was playing music with his hand. 10 Then Saul sought to pin David to the wall with the spear, but he slipped away from Saul’s presence; and he drove the spear into the wall. So David fled and escaped that night.
well depends on which version of the so many differents ones out there you quote from

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Thu 10/14/10 10:35 AM





Then an evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with spear in hand and David was playing the harp nearby. Saul tried to nail David to the wall with the spear , but David eluded Saul, so that the spear struck only the wall, and David got away safe. (1 Samuel 19:9-10 NAB)

he creates evil spirits too


Try not editing the verses and put what it really says.

1 Samuel 19:9-10

9 Now the distressing spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand. And David was playing music with his hand. 10 Then Saul sought to pin David to the wall with the spear, but he slipped away from Saul’s presence; and he drove the spear into the wall. So David fled and escaped that night.
well depends on which version of the so many differents ones out there you quote from


Ok, what version were you using then? I used the king james version.

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Thu 10/14/10 10:38 AM
world english bible...also most versions quote it at "evil spirit"