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Topic: "it has served us well…this myth of Christ" Pope LeoX, 1
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 10/14/10 10:42 AM
world english bible...also most versions quote it at "evil spirit" King james version is one of the closest to the actual translations. Other translations are usually translating from king james into more modern day language. More something is translated more it looses it's meaning. It looses it's meaning because of personal preference and what the author "thinks" it is saying.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Thu 10/14/10 10:51 AM
And the euill spirit from the Lord was vpon Saul, as he sate in his house with his iauelin in his hand: and Dauid played with his hand. - King James Version (1611) And an evil spirit from Jehovah was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - American Standard Version (1901) And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Basic English Bible And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Darby Bible And the evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul, and he sat in his house, and held a spear in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Douay Rheims Bible And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Webster's Bible An evil spirit from Yahweh was on Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - World English Bible And a spirit of sadness [from] Jehovah is unto Saul, and he is sitting in his house, and his javelin in his hand, and David is playing with the hand, - Youngs Literal Bible And an evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - Jewish Publication Society Bible take your pick..lol you gotta admit though copy and pasting does save on alot of typing

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 10/14/10 10:54 AM
And the euill spirit from the Lord was vpon Saul, as he sate in his house with his iauelin in his hand: and Dauid played with his hand. - King James Version (1611) And an evil spirit from Jehovah was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - American Standard Version (1901) And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Basic English Bible And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Darby Bible And the evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul, and he sat in his house, and held a spear in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Douay Rheims Bible And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Webster's Bible An evil spirit from Yahweh was on Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - World English Bible And a spirit of sadness [from] Jehovah is unto Saul, and he is sitting in his house, and his javelin in his hand, and David is playing with the hand, - Youngs Literal Bible And an evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - Jewish Publication Society Bible take your pick..lol you gotta admit though copy and pasting does save on alot of typing Still nevertheless further translations from king james and or authors of the same relitive time. These bibles are these person's interpretations of what they think was ment in king james and or books of that translation period.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Thu 10/14/10 11:02 AM
And the euill spirit from the Lord was vpon Saul, as he sate in his house with his iauelin in his hand: and Dauid played with his hand. - King James Version (1611) And an evil spirit from Jehovah was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - American Standard Version (1901) And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Basic English Bible And an evil spirit from the Lord came on Saul, when he was seated in his house with his spear in his hand; and David made music for him. - Darby Bible And the evil spirit from the Lord came upon Saul, and he sat in his house, and held a spear in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Douay Rheims Bible And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand. - Webster's Bible An evil spirit from Yahweh was on Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - World English Bible And a spirit of sadness [from] Jehovah is unto Saul, and he is sitting in his house, and his javelin in his hand, and David is playing with the hand, - Youngs Literal Bible And an evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his spear in his hand; and David was playing with his hand. - Jewish Publication Society Bible take your pick..lol you gotta admit though copy and pasting does save on alot of typing English Standard Version - 2001 King James Version - 1611 These are the dates recorded for when those versions came out. With king james being in 1611 the english standard version has gone through untelling how many translations before it reached it's time in 2001.

the_one_for_u Joined Wed 09/29/10 Posts: 521	Thu 10/14/10 01:31 PM
i feel like a stick of butter on a tall stack of flap jacks thoe i walk through the valley of darkness i shall fear no evil

GummiBear Joined Thu 10/16/08 Posts: 1245	Thu 10/14/10 06:27 PM
I wish the Mods would lock this thread altogether, thus ending the supposed discussion that is parading around as argument. For one thing, no one is forcing you to read this. For another, quite a typical reaction. "Agree with me or you don't get to speak". Thanks for yet again reinforcing a negative stereotype of christianity as a whole. Oh is that what's bothering you? That my reaction is typical? Poor baby, you must be so upset! Truth is, if it was DISCUSSION it might be interesting. If it's just jerks with sarcasm, then what's the difference between this and any other thread? You must spout your mouth off so much in these threads because nobody will listen to you in person! Now THAT is funny! LMAO!

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Fri 10/15/10 10:35 AM
I'd scare you more....I think the death penalty should be expanded to cover many more things than it does. Of course, I also think that if someone is executed that is later found to be innocent, the prosecutors should go on trial for murder too. Well, I certainly never claimed that atheists are any better than religious people. The only difference is that if I disagree with your ideas and philosophies then it's just my opinion versus yours. Religious people hold out their hateful ideas in the name of God. So if I object they kick and scream that I'm questioning the wisdom of God. Ain't that always the way...

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Fri 10/15/10 10:45 AM
technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge. well if your talking about the half ape half human remains thay discovered and all that stuff then here is my thoughts on that before when i said that we were the result of a cloning experiment well the flood the is talked about in the bible could be the way thay got rid of the ones that did not turn out right Except there is no scientific evidence of a world wide flood ever happening... No evidence they have found YET. We haven't learned everything there is, we are still finding new discoveries. With finding the new discoveries theories change, law's change, alot of things change with the new findings. So who's to say that one day they won't find the evidence for such? Yeah. Like the no evidence found YET of tiny unicorns living in my sock drawer. Look, we have really good geological evidence of the weather going back 100's of thousands of years. From all over the planet. A world wide flood would've left evidence everywhere. Such a mass extinction, in such relatively recent times geologically speaking, could NOT go unnoticed. It just couldn't. Our scientists just aren't that incompetent. Of course there wouldn't be geological evidence of such. The world wasn't like is now then. The flood changed the face of the earth. Genesis 1:6-8 6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day. Wow. What a completely unique circumvention of logic. Bravo. Of course that makes no sense, though. Unless God, in changing the face of the Earth, also laid down 4 billion years of geology. You might as well say God destroyed the Earth entirely, with the flood, and rebuilt it from scratch. Why would God do that? Why would God HIDE the evidence of a great flood when such evidence would greatly bolster the case for believing in Him?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Fri 10/15/10 10:50 AM
technology gives you power as well and as for god he could have been an alien from some other part of the galaxy doing a cloning experiment and we are the out come so how can you hold truth to a book that's basically a bunch of he says she says bull crap Technology gives no one power of anything. Technology only gives us a way to control some of the power God has given us freely. We have the power to learn and critical thinking. And is why we've evolved so much further then the animals of this planet. We have the power of knowledge. well if your talking about the half ape half human remains thay discovered and all that stuff then here is my thoughts on that before when i said that we were the result of a cloning experiment well the flood the is talked about in the bible could be the way thay got rid of the ones that did not turn out right Except there is no scientific evidence of a world wide flood ever happening... No evidence they have found YET. We haven't learned everything there is, we are still finding new discoveries. With finding the new discoveries theories change, law's change, alot of things change with the new findings. So who's to say that one day they won't find the evidence for such? Yeah. Like the no evidence found YET of tiny unicorns living in my sock drawer. Look, we have really good geological evidence of the weather going back 100's of thousands of years. From all over the planet. A world wide flood would've left evidence everywhere. Such a mass extinction, in such relatively recent times geologically speaking, could NOT go unnoticed. It just couldn't. Our scientists just aren't that incompetent. Of course there wouldn't be geological evidence of such. The world wasn't like is now then. The flood changed the face of the earth. Genesis 1:6-8 6 Then God said, “Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.” 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day. Wow. What a completely unique circumvention of logic. Bravo. Of course that makes no sense, though. Unless God, in changing the face of the Earth, also laid down 4 billion years of geology. You might as well say God destroyed the Earth entirely, with the flood, and rebuilt it from scratch. Why would God do that? Why would God HIDE the evidence of a great flood when such evidence would greatly bolster the case for believing in Him? The evidence is everywhere. The mountains, the valleys, the shape of the face of the world.

Arcamedees Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 1817	Fri 10/15/10 10:56 AM
I wish the Mods would lock this thread altogether, thus ending the supposed discussion that is parading around as argument. For one thing, no one is forcing you to read this. For another, quite a typical reaction. "Agree with me or you don't get to speak". Thanks for yet again reinforcing a negative stereotype of christianity as a whole. Oh is that what's bothering you? That my reaction is typical? Poor baby, you must be so upset! Truth is, if it was DISCUSSION it might be interesting. If it's just jerks with sarcasm, then what's the difference between this and any other thread? You must spout your mouth off so much in these threads because nobody will listen to you in person! Now THAT is funny! LMAO! So...are you like 12 years old or what? I know, puberty is a tumultuous time. But you'll get through it. Until then... Perhaps you should refrain from making comments until your balls drop or your boobs grow, whichever is appropriate.