Topic: Biden Threatens To Strangle Republicans
msharmony's photo
Wed 10/06/10 03:46 PM

if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place


TJN's photo
Wed 10/06/10 03:50 PM

Question asked:

and, since HE SAID IT ABOUT ALL THE REPULICAN'S, WHOM ACCUSE THE CURRENT ADMINI OF NO ABILITY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, THEN ***ALL***OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THEY WERE NOT OFFENDED, AND BELIEVE THERE WAS NO "MALICE" INTENDED, BEFORE HE WOULD AGAIN MEET ANY STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND LEADERSHIP OR SELF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIMSELF, AS SET DOWN BY OUR OWN SOCIETY ITSELF IN ALL DAYS PAST.


Answer: there is no standard which requires EVERY individual of a group not be offended by statements against it,,,


question aked:

why, no one on this website can say to another, if you say that again, "i'm going to strangle you", and not violate the laws of these very forums!?

Answer: because those are FORUM laws, not laws of the land and the analogy is off because it is one of a PERSONAL Threat,,,,not a general one

general threat 'if I saw someone desecrating the flag it would be the last thing they ever did'


personal threat ' when I see YOU damage a flag it will be the last thing you do'



see the difference?


Then by your own definition is it not a personal threat because he did say if one more republican.

"If I hear one more Republican tell me about balancing the budget, I am going to strangle them."

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/06/10 03:52 PM


Question asked:

and, since HE SAID IT ABOUT ALL THE REPULICAN'S, WHOM ACCUSE THE CURRENT ADMINI OF NO ABILITY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, THEN ***ALL***OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THEY WERE NOT OFFENDED, AND BELIEVE THERE WAS NO "MALICE" INTENDED, BEFORE HE WOULD AGAIN MEET ANY STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND LEADERSHIP OR SELF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIMSELF, AS SET DOWN BY OUR OWN SOCIETY ITSELF IN ALL DAYS PAST.


Answer: there is no standard which requires EVERY individual of a group not be offended by statements against it,,,


question aked:

why, no one on this website can say to another, if you say that again, "i'm going to strangle you", and not violate the laws of these very forums!?

Answer: because those are FORUM laws, not laws of the land and the analogy is off because it is one of a PERSONAL Threat,,,,not a general one

general threat 'if I saw someone desecrating the flag it would be the last thing they ever did'


personal threat ' when I see YOU damage a flag it will be the last thing you do'



see the difference?


Then by your own definition is it not a personal threat because he did say if one more republican.

"If I hear one more Republican tell me about balancing the budget, I am going to strangle them."




thats a figure of speech ,, he also said

no jury or judge in their right mind would humor the idea that that statement implies serious intent to harm,,,,its just reaching at straws because Biden said it,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/06/10 03:53 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/06/10 03:54 PM


Question asked:

and, since HE SAID IT ABOUT ALL THE REPULICAN'S, WHOM ACCUSE THE CURRENT ADMINI OF NO ABILITY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, THEN ***ALL***OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THEY WERE NOT OFFENDED, AND BELIEVE THERE WAS NO "MALICE" INTENDED, BEFORE HE WOULD AGAIN MEET ANY STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND LEADERSHIP OR SELF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIMSELF, AS SET DOWN BY OUR OWN SOCIETY ITSELF IN ALL DAYS PAST.


Answer: there is no standard which requires EVERY individual of a group not be offended by statements against it,,,


question aked:

why, no one on this website can say to another, if you say that again, "i'm going to strangle you", and not violate the laws of these very forums!?

Answer: because those are FORUM laws, not laws of the land and the analogy is off because it is one of a PERSONAL Threat,,,,not a general one

general threat 'if I saw someone desecrating the flag it would be the last thing they ever did'


personal threat ' when I see YOU damage a flag it will be the last thing you do'



see the difference?


Then by your own definition is it not a personal threat because he did say if one more republican.

"If I hear one more Republican tell me about balancing the budget, I am going to strangle them."



no, thats still general, because he is just putting a label there and not calling anyone personally out,,


I could say, if another man tells me he loves me just to get in my pants Im gonna knock him out

it would be a generalized statement with NO evidence of any serious intent to commit or history of committing violence against men

TJN's photo
Wed 10/06/10 03:59 PM
Edited by TJN on Wed 10/06/10 03:59 PM



Question asked:

and, since HE SAID IT ABOUT ALL THE REPULICAN'S, WHOM ACCUSE THE CURRENT ADMINI OF NO ABILITY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, THEN ***ALL***OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THEY WERE NOT OFFENDED, AND BELIEVE THERE WAS NO "MALICE" INTENDED, BEFORE HE WOULD AGAIN MEET ANY STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND LEADERSHIP OR SELF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIMSELF, AS SET DOWN BY OUR OWN SOCIETY ITSELF IN ALL DAYS PAST.


Answer: there is no standard which requires EVERY individual of a group not be offended by statements against it,,,


question aked:

why, no one on this website can say to another, if you say that again, "i'm going to strangle you", and not violate the laws of these very forums!?

Answer: because those are FORUM laws, not laws of the land and the analogy is off because it is one of a PERSONAL Threat,,,,not a general one

general threat 'if I saw someone desecrating the flag it would be the last thing they ever did'


personal threat ' when I see YOU damage a flag it will be the last thing you do'



see the difference?


Then by your own definition is it not a personal threat because he did say if one more republican.

"If I hear one more Republican tell me about balancing the budget, I am going to strangle them."



no, thats still general, because he is just putting a label there and not calling anyone personally out,,


I could say, if another man tells me he loves me just to get in my pants Im gonna knock him out

it would be a generalized statement with NO evidence of any serious intent to commit or history of committing violence against men


So the first time someone commits murder we should let them go if they no history of commiting murder or violent backround.

I personally could care less what he said and I don't believe he means any harm towards anyone.

It's just the point of being Professional I mean after all these people are the elite and have excelent educations. They should be able to speak in public without making statements such as that.

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/06/10 04:03 PM




Question asked:

and, since HE SAID IT ABOUT ALL THE REPULICAN'S, WHOM ACCUSE THE CURRENT ADMINI OF NO ABILITY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, THEN ***ALL***OF THEM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE THEY WERE NOT OFFENDED, AND BELIEVE THERE WAS NO "MALICE" INTENDED, BEFORE HE WOULD AGAIN MEET ANY STANDARD OF CIVILITY AND LEADERSHIP OR SELF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR HIMSELF, AS SET DOWN BY OUR OWN SOCIETY ITSELF IN ALL DAYS PAST.


Answer: there is no standard which requires EVERY individual of a group not be offended by statements against it,,,


question aked:

why, no one on this website can say to another, if you say that again, "i'm going to strangle you", and not violate the laws of these very forums!?

Answer: because those are FORUM laws, not laws of the land and the analogy is off because it is one of a PERSONAL Threat,,,,not a general one

general threat 'if I saw someone desecrating the flag it would be the last thing they ever did'


personal threat ' when I see YOU damage a flag it will be the last thing you do'



see the difference?


Then by your own definition is it not a personal threat because he did say if one more republican.

"If I hear one more Republican tell me about balancing the budget, I am going to strangle them."



no, thats still general, because he is just putting a label there and not calling anyone personally out,,


I could say, if another man tells me he loves me just to get in my pants Im gonna knock him out

it would be a generalized statement with NO evidence of any serious intent to commit or history of committing violence against men


So the first time someone commits murder we should let them go if they no history of commiting murder or violent backround.

I personally could care less what he said and I don't believe he means any harm towards anyone.

It's just the point of being Professional I mean after all these people are the elite and have excelent educations. They should be able to speak in public without making statements such as that.



great, we agree it is an issue of professionalism and not law



should it be considered unprofessional,, sure

should it be considered worthy of civil or criminal suit,,no

davidben1's photo
Wed 10/06/10 04:42 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Wed 10/06/10 05:11 PM


if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place




if you deem this a debate, then your motive only be to debate the validitiy of other's viewpoints as less correct than your own, and with such a motive, there is no reason to speak, for the mind is already closed, only but looking for any point that itself can use to prove itself as correct...

such is not so in my case, and i would bash your head in if you were here...

figure of speech, or true malice?

how do you know?

can you be certain?

how can there be no doubt, of something one has no proof over?

so, there is always DOUBT?

and if there is doubt, WITHIN THE HUMAN BEING ITSELF, THEN ANY SUCH THING CALLED A "FIGURE'S OF SPEECH", IS, WAS, HAS BEEN, CAN BE, AND MANY TIMES IN PROVEN RECORDED HISTORY, INDEED BEEN USED AS TRUE THREATS AGAINST ONE'S ENEMEY?

that being WHOM WOULD OPPOSE ONE'S AGENDA?

i know miss harmony, you would never "strangle someone", or bash their head in, and nor do i have any desire to do such, BUT WE MUST REMEMEBER, AT ALL TIMES, THAT ULTIMATE POWER IS "DIFFERENT THAN YOU", for you have never had ULTIMATE POWER.

ultimate power, creates all ruthlessness, and should be contained as one doth a wild lion, knowing that ultimate power can indeed, and has always shown to in history, ULTIMATELY CORRUPT...

so, we are not speaking of INCARCERATING 'BIDEN' FOR HIS OFFENSE, lest ye forget we are speaking of ACCOUNTABILITY, not arrest...

we are speaking about LAWS DEFINING HATE SPEECH, and how they are a double standard, AND SHOULD NOT BE LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE, and how they will entrap the lowest on the economic scale, and that the commoner shall bear the brunt of such laws...

a child in a MA school, kicked out of school for a rebel flag on his shirt, deemed hateful intent...

the point is, ANYTHING IS IN THE EYE AND EAR OF THE BEHOLDER, and so TWO HAVE DUE DILLIGENCE, TO AGREE WHAT IS HATE AND NOT HATE, not one?

so, THE PUBS GET TO DECIDE IF BIDEN SPOKE WITH MALICE, and if they DEEM HE DID, THEN HE MUST CONCEED, or we see that what he spoke, that show's his true character, is what he truly believe's, that other's "feelings" are of no concern, if they do not "feel" as he does...

you should be able to see, that such could never be spoken lest there was indeed true bias and malice toward another, and for a commoner, not such a big deal, but for sitting leader's, whom again decide whether you live or die, well, that involves a whole different matter...

these type's of feelings, as expressed in words, when coupled with EXTREME POWER, ARE THEN OF COURSE, MUCH MORE POWERFUL FEELINGS, AS THEY ARE BACKED WITH THE KNOWING OF ONE'S OWN POWER...

but i understand little lamb, you have never had any power of the magnitude that politician's have, nor sitting ceo's of major corporation's, or deen's of acedemia, or of those sitting at the top of the pile of the worlds military arsenal, and why you cannot relate to the how these type people tick and tock...

but indeed, this is what they prey upon, the unknowing, whom cannot admit that even when they themself felt as this at times, THEY KNEW WITHIN IT WAS NOT A GOOD FEELING TO VALIDATE...

dosent make them crimminal, in fact, the very essence of all i have written, is MORE TO THE SHOWING OF HOW WE ARE PRODUCING OUR OWN CRIMMINALS, by creating standards that are rebelled against, for their lack of logic or consistency, and so rebellion as always creates violence, and violence means there is need for POWER, OR GOVERNMENT...

brilliant, A SELF SUSTAINING "POWER" SYSTEM...

it is self perpepuating in all ways, for what is created, and deemed as illegal, is at the same time, created and propelled forth over every communication medium, which somehow cannot be seen as contributing, lol...

if i say to you, FUUUUUCK YOU MS HARMONY, WOULD IT EFFECT YOU?

of course it would, as it should, and no matter if i say just kidding, don't be so sensitive, matter's not, which is so oft the case in these present self validating days...

but then they know this, and the commoner doth not, and use it to seperate and divide the very people they govern, knowing that if they can keep the people divided, and fighting about what "is hate speech", such being undefinable forever and ever, that the commoner consumed with but proving itself smart shall not notice that all along there had been no provision's actually made for the survival of the son's and daughter's of the commoner's, only but for the wealthiest and the elite.








Lpdon's photo
Wed 10/06/10 05:04 PM


if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place




Perception is reality in politics and when somoene makes a death threat it needs to be precieved as real and charges need to be filed.

KerryO's photo
Wed 10/06/10 05:27 PM



Free speech is free speech until it tramples on the rights of others and making a death threat or a threat in general tramples on the rights of others.



He said "Republicans", as in the Republican Party, which is NOT a person.

Please DO escalate this, though-- please DO try to impeach Biden over this, and do it before election day. Give the American people a taste of what is going to happen in the next two years-- unhinged partisan warfare while people suffer.

Because the only harm that will come to the Republicans and Tea Partiers over this tilting at windmills will be self-inflicted.


-Kerry O. "How's that workin' fer ya?"

KerryO's photo
Wed 10/06/10 05:29 PM



if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place




Perception is reality in politics and when somoene makes a death threat it needs to be precieved as real and charges need to be filed.


So DO IT! What are you waiting for? You and Angle should call a news conference and DEMAND action!!


-Kerry O.

KerryO's photo
Wed 10/06/10 05:34 PM
Edited by KerryO on Wed 10/06/10 05:41 PM
BTW, Lpdon? When are you and Sharon going to get around to calling for an indictment of Tea Party candidate favorite Carl Paladino for making veiled terroristic threats? You said it yourself, "A Felony is a Felony".

Or is that different because he's 'one of yours'?


-Kerry O.

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/06/10 05:52 PM



if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place




if you deem this a debate, then your motive only be to debate the validitiy of other's viewpoints as less correct than your own, and with such a motive, there is no reason to speak, for the mind is already closed, only but looking for any point that itself can use to prove itself as correct...

such is not so in my case, and i would bash your head in if you were here...

figure of speech, or true malice?

how do you know?

can you be certain?

how can there be no doubt, of something one has no proof over?

so, there is always DOUBT?

and if there is doubt, WITHIN THE HUMAN BEING ITSELF, THEN ANY SUCH THING CALLED A "FIGURE'S OF SPEECH", IS, WAS, HAS BEEN, CAN BE, AND MANY TIMES IN PROVEN RECORDED HISTORY, INDEED BEEN USED AS TRUE THREATS AGAINST ONE'S ENEMEY?

that being WHOM WOULD OPPOSE ONE'S AGENDA?

i know miss harmony, you would never "strangle someone", or bash their head in, and nor do i have any desire to do such, BUT WE MUST REMEMEBER, AT ALL TIMES, THAT ULTIMATE POWER IS "DIFFERENT THAN YOU", for you have never had ULTIMATE POWER.

ultimate power, creates all ruthlessness, and should be contained as one doth a wild lion, knowing that ultimate power can indeed, and has always shown to in history, ULTIMATELY CORRUPT...

so, we are not speaking of INCARCERATING 'BIDEN' FOR HIS OFFENSE, lest ye forget we are speaking of ACCOUNTABILITY, not arrest...

we are speaking about LAWS DEFINING HATE SPEECH, and how they are a double standard, AND SHOULD NOT BE LAW IN THE FIRST PLACE, and how they will entrap the lowest on the economic scale, and that the commoner shall bear the brunt of such laws...

a child in a MA school, kicked out of school for a rebel flag on his shirt, deemed hateful intent...

the point is, ANYTHING IS IN THE EYE AND EAR OF THE BEHOLDER, and so TWO HAVE DUE DILLIGENCE, TO AGREE WHAT IS HATE AND NOT HATE, not one?

so, THE PUBS GET TO DECIDE IF BIDEN SPOKE WITH MALICE, and if they DEEM HE DID, THEN HE MUST CONCEED, or we see that what he spoke, that show's his true character, is what he truly believe's, that other's "feelings" are of no concern, if they do not "feel" as he does...

you should be able to see, that such could never be spoken lest there was indeed true bias and malice toward another, and for a commoner, not such a big deal, but for sitting leader's, whom again decide whether you live or die, well, that involves a whole different matter...

these type's of feelings, as expressed in words, when coupled with EXTREME POWER, ARE THEN OF COURSE, MUCH MORE POWERFUL FEELINGS, AS THEY ARE BACKED WITH THE KNOWING OF ONE'S OWN POWER...

but i understand little lamb, you have never had any power of the magnitude that politician's have, nor sitting ceo's of major corporation's, or deen's of acedemia, or of those sitting at the top of the pile of the worlds military arsenal, and why you cannot relate to the how these type people tick and tock...

but indeed, this is what they prey upon, the unknowing, whom cannot admit that even when they themself felt as this at times, THEY KNEW WITHIN IT WAS NOT A GOOD FEELING TO VALIDATE...

dosent make them crimminal, in fact, the very essence of all i have written, is MORE TO THE SHOWING OF HOW WE ARE PRODUCING OUR OWN CRIMMINALS, by creating standards that are rebelled against, for their lack of logic or consistency, and so rebellion as always creates violence, and violence means there is need for POWER, OR GOVERNMENT...

brilliant, A SELF SUSTAINING "POWER" SYSTEM...

it is self perpepuating in all ways, for what is created, and deemed as illegal, is at the same time, created and propelled forth over every communication medium, which somehow cannot be seen as contributing, lol...

if i say to you, FUUUUUCK YOU MS HARMONY, WOULD IT EFFECT YOU?

of course it would, as it should, and no matter if i say just kidding, don't be so sensitive, matter's not, which is so oft the case in these present self validating days...

but then they know this, and the commoner doth not, and use it to seperate and divide the very people they govern, knowing that if they can keep the people divided, and fighting about what "is hate speech", such being undefinable forever and ever, that the commoner consumed with but proving itself smart shall not notice that all along there had been no provision's actually made for the survival of the son's and daughter's of the commoner's, only but for the wealthiest and the elite.











I dont know how to explain it any simpler ,, the use of the word YOU or a personal name, makes a statement personal

the use of group labels like Liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, makes a statement general

Lpdon's photo
Wed 10/06/10 06:45 PM

BTW, Lpdon? When are you and Sharon going to get around to calling for an indictment of Tea Party candidate favorite Carl Paladino for making veiled terroristic threats? You said it yourself, "A Felony is a Felony".

Or is that different because he's 'one of yours'?


-Kerry O.


When did I every say I liked Sharron Angle? Please tell me? NEVER. I have never liked her.

Why stop there, why not charge McMahon's apponent with lying about his military record? That is a crime too.

davidben1's photo
Wed 10/06/10 07:48 PM
really, really, really?

so, if i am a muslim, and i say, "i am going to kill those damn american's", it's just a figure of speech, since it was aimed at no ONE PERSON?

nothing personal huh?

muslim man surrounded by fbi agents, declaring, "it was just a figure of speech"...

POOR SHMUCK MAY INDEED BE INNOCENT OF ANY TRUE MALICE, but, since we are told "iraq's" are the BAD GUYS, he may indeed not be able to prove he is innocent, since the DECIDING FACTOR IS "TO BE DETERMINED BY HOW THE LAW BE INTERPRETED THAT DAY, AND HOW THE PEOPLE INTERPRETING IT "FELT" THAT DAY, and this will determined by if they had great sex last night or not, and depending on whom has a hangover or not???

SEE, ALL THINGS HUMAN DO IS DECIDED BY THEIR "FEELINGS", AND SINCE FEELINGS ARE NOT "CONSISTENT", AND PEOPLE'S FEELINGS DIFFER BETWEEN PEOPLE, SO, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT!

NO LAW SHOULD BE BASED UPON ANYTHING BEING ABLE TO BE CALLED OR DEFINED AS HATE SPEECH, and if those that pass the laws, had to actually LIVE AND BE PUNISHED BY THE SAME LAWS THEY PASS, then the laws themself would be lossened, and even obolished, as primitive, as speculative in ALL CASES, TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE DEPENDING ON THE "FEELINGS" OF ANY DIFFERENT NATIONALITY, as rememeber, the CULTURE ONE COMES FROM, EFFECTS HOW IT "FEELS"...

so, we have either threat, or no threat?

no malice huh?

you don't talk like that unless there is extreme dislike for another group of people...

please women...

if a white person call one person a niiiiiger, that is NOT ok, but, if i say "im gonna kill all them niiiiiger's, that would be ok"?

hum...

somthin just don't quite smell right here...

if Tony Blair say's he's going to "stomp those american's arse", it mean's something, BUT, he has no previous history of PERSONAL VIOLENCE?

HUM....

do we not arrest more and more people each day, for horrific crimes, that had no PREVIOUS BACKGROUND OF CRIMMINAL ACTIVITY?

doctor's son, FROM ELITE FAMILY, puts ad on craigslist and BEGIN'S TO MURDER SEX PARTNER'S?

hum...

but, IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN LISTENING INTENTLY, KNOWING THAT WORDS ARE THE TELL OF WHAT IS TO COME, ALWAYS, THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLUED IN...

you seem to not know just how much information you can tell about a person by what they say, BUT THIS CAN ONLY EVER BE KNOWN IF THE MIND FIRST ASSIMILATE ALL DATA AS EQUAL IN VALUE, OR ALL WORDS AS BEING CRITICAL, OR EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...

you can know who is a contyrol friek, whom would kill under the right conditon's, who would betray you if push comes to shove, who would **** your women if no one knew, who would rape your daughter if no one else was on planet earth...

you can tell ALL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ADVANCE, BY THE WORDS THAT ARE SPOKEN...

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING PERSONAL HERE AT ALL?

but, people's lives are PERSONAL, AND A WORLD LEADER, ONE HOLDING THEIR FATE IN HIS HANDS, NEEDS TO TAKE EVERYTHING SERIOUS, AND AS IF EACH HUMAN BEING IS HIS OWN CHILD!

VERY PERSONAL...

EACH WORD OUT OF THE MOUTH, TELLS OUR ALLY AND ENEMY ALIKE WHERE OUR "HEAD IS"...

this effects how the usa is "treated" by each ally and enemey alike...

and this is not important as well, just no big deal?

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED YET, THERE IS NO SMALL DEAL.

EVERYTHING IS A BIG DEAL, FOR EVERYTHING MAKE SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN, AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING HAPPEN'S TO PEOPLE, AND ALL THAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT, IS IT NOT?

you are using the same standards you wish to apply to YOURSELF, for world leader's, WHOM HOLD YOUR LIFE and the life of ALL HUMANS IN THEIR HANDS?

your just not thinking as this on a daily basis, so you cannot see the magnitude of how each ripple effect and create something, either MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

was it MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

AND, SINCE IT EFFECT BILLIONS, THE ENTIRE WORLD, AS WE EFFECT ALL OTHER NATIONS, THEN WHOLE WORLD BIG DEAL...

problem is, the politician's are constantly playing on the sympathy of the commoner, and downplaying their own power and the seriousness of it, TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM ASKING TO MANY QUESTION'S, and to keep themself from being scutinized...

IF YOU WALK ONTO A PRIVATE CHARTER BOAT, WITH YOUR FAMILY, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK TO SEE SPEAK TO THE CAPTAIN, to get a feel for his qualification's, which you shall immediately be able to access, if when you ask, you are met with distain or pride and indignace...

but, ask a captian of a vessel, whom cares about other people, what his qualification's are, and he will immediately respond with the knowing that you are a concerned parent, just as he is, and not take any offense to your line of questioning...

it all in the pride...

if they have pride, it's either true pride or false pride...

if their corrupt, they will have false pride, the kind that does not want you to look around, or to be scrutinized...

if they have true pride, then they gotta be squeaky clean, and if their squeaky clean, they will be proud to allow you to scrutinize them, knowing their affairs, or integrity, be in order...

they will easily admit if they were out of line...

easily say the words i was wrong...

but, then when was the last time you heard any politician admit they were wrong with some excuse, the best one, "no body is perfect"...

only what has guilt, and know's itself lacks considerably, uses this one, lol...

problem is, your own standard is way to low, for you yourself said, you were taught to take full accountability for yourself?

FULL ACCOUNTABILITY, ALSO PERTAINS TO WORDS!

WORDS START WARS AND CREATE "ALL CONFLICT"!

HELLO!

WORDS BY WORLD LEADERS CREATE WORLD CONFLICT AND WORLD WARS!

this namby pambi, validate whomever one wish, whatever one wish, whomever is one's personal fav, whomever gives to oneself what it wishes, is just precisely why our country and now the entire world is in the self validation no one will admit their wrong mess that it is in...

the good ole buddy system...

everybody wants a free pass, by the buddy system, until the buddy system oneself is under, until the same is done to them, then it's another story, and they demand justice and respect and cry and whimper when thrown under the bus...

i suppose ole pres. of iran saying "american leader's should be destroyed, their soul, their table, their body, for the stain they are upon the world", falls into the """figure of speech category"""?

figure of speech, yes, for it is indeed, against an entire group of people, and it is but a traditional thing that the arab community reserves for their worst enemies, so, indeed, this as well classifies as an offical "figure of speech"!!!???

if FIGURE OF SPEECH, was an out for anyone that wants to use it, then we would have to have a "bar", some measure, a book, of ALL THE OFFICAL "FIGURE'S OF SPEECH" CONTAINED WITHIN IT...

you cannot seperate speech into such categories in BUSINESS, IN CHURCH, IN SCHOOL, AND MOST NOT WITHIN ANY GOVERNMENT.

you indeed should be a defense attorney, for according to your definition's and statement's thus far, the predident of iran's innocent, having no malice, for his statement falls into the "figure of speech" category, due to the fact...

1. it was not aimed a ONE PERSON IN SPECIFIC, and
2. it is but a traditonal statement within the arab communtiy, just used as a customary tradition, therefore, i can assure you my client is not guilty of any malice and intent, why even last week, he helped an american women with her groceries...

omg, such rhetoric rum amock...

such rhetoric, which in plain english means BUUUUUUUULLSHIT, that it threaten's to reduce the logical deducting abilities of an entire species down the drain, for it is everywhere and deemed as acceptable and commonplace...

if my daughter say's IM GONNA STRANGLE THOSE BLACK PEOPLE, FOR TAKING ALL OUR WHITE FOLKS JOBS, SHOULD I LAUGH?

the statement show's she would really have to believe they may indeed be doing such, to even say it, perhaps not totally believing this, but, IF IT IS NOT CORREECTED, or met with any criticism, soon she will believe this AS FACT!

in politics, it is A MUCH LARGER DEAL, since we have MANY, MANY, MANY ACCUSATION'S OF CORRUPTION, PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED AND INDICTED DAILY, PEOPLE BEING HARMED, DISCREDITIED, DEFAMED, RUINED, LIVE'S DESTROYED, AND YES, ACCUSATION'S OF EVEN MURDER EACH DAY, SOILDER'S MURDERING INNOCENTS, ATF MURDERING INNOCENTS, HOMELAND SECURITY "OVER REACTING", EVEN AGAINST IT'S OWN PEOPLE, PEOPLE IMPRISONED FALSEY, by member's OF THE CURRENT REGIME, OR "POWER SYSTEM"...

and you think each word spoken by these entities is not that big a deal?

now if you think, that such speech from one as high up as VP means nothing, and should be shrugged off, than you have no idea what it takes to KEEP PEACE AND COMMUNITY AND FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY alive in any world or country, in any present day, scenario, or in past days scenario...

the GOVERNMENT OF ANY NATION, MUST SHOW KIND CONSIDERATION FOR ANY AND ALL PEOPLES, which is any and all viewpoints, for it wield's EXTREME POWER, so EXTREME CRITQUE must be at play as well, or NONE CAN CRY WHEN ITSELF IS IMPRISONED WITHOUT JUST AND DUE MERIT...

how do you think these other third world countries, first allowed dictator's into power?

thinking it was NO BIG DEAL, AND NOT REALIZING, THEY WANT NO SCRUTINY IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIFE, SO THEY EMRABCE THIS FOR LEADERS AS WELL, AND WA LAH......

CORRUPTION RUN AMOCK...

what brought SO MANY LEADER'S DOWN THRU TIME, to eventually kill and turn on their own people, those deemed disposable at least?

IF THE PEOPLE POLICE NOT THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT BECOME THE ONLY POLICE.

IT BECOMES ONE-SIDED...

A DICTATEROUS REGIME...

yes, it is a regime, FOR IF THERE IS SELF VALIDATION, OR "SELF POLICING", IT HAS BECOME A REGIME...


msharmony's photo
Thu 10/07/10 12:26 AM



if the essence cannot be identified, then it will no longer be granted.


the essence of a thing is a personal perception and not a constant, that is why we are able to debate in the first place




Perception is reality in politics and when somoene makes a death threat it needs to be precieved as real and charges need to be filed.



NOT,, who is gonna file a charge that they felt threatened about something so dumb,,,,and obviously used as a figure of speech

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/07/10 12:31 AM

really, really, really?

so, if i am a muslim, and i say, "i am going to kill those damn american's", it's just a figure of speech, since it was aimed at no ONE PERSON?

nothing personal huh?

muslim man surrounded by fbi agents, declaring, "it was just a figure of speech"...

POOR SHMUCK MAY INDEED BE INNOCENT OF ANY TRUE MALICE, but, since we are told "iraq's" are the BAD GUYS, he may indeed not be able to prove he is innocent, since the DECIDING FACTOR IS "TO BE DETERMINED BY HOW THE LAW BE INTERPRETED THAT DAY, AND HOW THE PEOPLE INTERPRETING IT "FELT" THAT DAY, and this will determined by if they had great sex last night or not, and depending on whom has a hangover or not???

SEE, ALL THINGS HUMAN DO IS DECIDED BY THEIR "FEELINGS", AND SINCE FEELINGS ARE NOT "CONSISTENT", AND PEOPLE'S FEELINGS DIFFER BETWEEN PEOPLE, SO, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT!

NO LAW SHOULD BE BASED UPON ANYTHING BEING ABLE TO BE CALLED OR DEFINED AS HATE SPEECH, and if those that pass the laws, had to actually LIVE AND BE PUNISHED BY THE SAME LAWS THEY PASS, then the laws themself would be lossened, and even obolished, as primitive, as speculative in ALL CASES, TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE DEPENDING ON THE "FEELINGS" OF ANY DIFFERENT NATIONALITY, as rememeber, the CULTURE ONE COMES FROM, EFFECTS HOW IT "FEELS"...

so, we have either threat, or no threat?

no malice huh?

you don't talk like that unless there is extreme dislike for another group of people...

please women...

if a white person call one person a niiiiiger, that is NOT ok, but, if i say "im gonna kill all them niiiiiger's, that would be ok"?

hum...

somthin just don't quite smell right here...

if Tony Blair say's he's going to "stomp those american's arse", it mean's something, BUT, he has no previous history of PERSONAL VIOLENCE?

HUM....

do we not arrest more and more people each day, for horrific crimes, that had no PREVIOUS BACKGROUND OF CRIMMINAL ACTIVITY?

doctor's son, FROM ELITE FAMILY, puts ad on craigslist and BEGIN'S TO MURDER SEX PARTNER'S?

hum...

but, IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN LISTENING INTENTLY, KNOWING THAT WORDS ARE THE TELL OF WHAT IS TO COME, ALWAYS, THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLUED IN...

you seem to not know just how much information you can tell about a person by what they say, BUT THIS CAN ONLY EVER BE KNOWN IF THE MIND FIRST ASSIMILATE ALL DATA AS EQUAL IN VALUE, OR ALL WORDS AS BEING CRITICAL, OR EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...

you can know who is a contyrol friek, whom would kill under the right conditon's, who would betray you if push comes to shove, who would **** your women if no one knew, who would rape your daughter if no one else was on planet earth...

you can tell ALL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ADVANCE, BY THE WORDS THAT ARE SPOKEN...

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING PERSONAL HERE AT ALL?

but, people's lives are PERSONAL, AND A WORLD LEADER, ONE HOLDING THEIR FATE IN HIS HANDS, NEEDS TO TAKE EVERYTHING SERIOUS, AND AS IF EACH HUMAN BEING IS HIS OWN CHILD!

VERY PERSONAL...

EACH WORD OUT OF THE MOUTH, TELLS OUR ALLY AND ENEMY ALIKE WHERE OUR "HEAD IS"...

this effects how the usa is "treated" by each ally and enemey alike...

and this is not important as well, just no big deal?

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED YET, THERE IS NO SMALL DEAL.

EVERYTHING IS A BIG DEAL, FOR EVERYTHING MAKE SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN, AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING HAPPEN'S TO PEOPLE, AND ALL THAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT, IS IT NOT?

you are using the same standards you wish to apply to YOURSELF, for world leader's, WHOM HOLD YOUR LIFE and the life of ALL HUMANS IN THEIR HANDS?

your just not thinking as this on a daily basis, so you cannot see the magnitude of how each ripple effect and create something, either MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

was it MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

AND, SINCE IT EFFECT BILLIONS, THE ENTIRE WORLD, AS WE EFFECT ALL OTHER NATIONS, THEN WHOLE WORLD BIG DEAL...

problem is, the politician's are constantly playing on the sympathy of the commoner, and downplaying their own power and the seriousness of it, TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM ASKING TO MANY QUESTION'S, and to keep themself from being scutinized...

IF YOU WALK ONTO A PRIVATE CHARTER BOAT, WITH YOUR FAMILY, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK TO SEE SPEAK TO THE CAPTAIN, to get a feel for his qualification's, which you shall immediately be able to access, if when you ask, you are met with distain or pride and indignace...

but, ask a captian of a vessel, whom cares about other people, what his qualification's are, and he will immediately respond with the knowing that you are a concerned parent, just as he is, and not take any offense to your line of questioning...

it all in the pride...

if they have pride, it's either true pride or false pride...

if their corrupt, they will have false pride, the kind that does not want you to look around, or to be scrutinized...

if they have true pride, then they gotta be squeaky clean, and if their squeaky clean, they will be proud to allow you to scrutinize them, knowing their affairs, or integrity, be in order...

they will easily admit if they were out of line...

easily say the words i was wrong...

but, then when was the last time you heard any politician admit they were wrong with some excuse, the best one, "no body is perfect"...

only what has guilt, and know's itself lacks considerably, uses this one, lol...

problem is, your own standard is way to low, for you yourself said, you were taught to take full accountability for yourself?

FULL ACCOUNTABILITY, ALSO PERTAINS TO WORDS!

WORDS START WARS AND CREATE "ALL CONFLICT"!

HELLO!

WORDS BY WORLD LEADERS CREATE WORLD CONFLICT AND WORLD WARS!

this namby pambi, validate whomever one wish, whatever one wish, whomever is one's personal fav, whomever gives to oneself what it wishes, is just precisely why our country and now the entire world is in the self validation no one will admit their wrong mess that it is in...

the good ole buddy system...

everybody wants a free pass, by the buddy system, until the buddy system oneself is under, until the same is done to them, then it's another story, and they demand justice and respect and cry and whimper when thrown under the bus...

i suppose ole pres. of iran saying "american leader's should be destroyed, their soul, their table, their body, for the stain they are upon the world", falls into the """figure of speech category"""?

figure of speech, yes, for it is indeed, against an entire group of people, and it is but a traditional thing that the arab community reserves for their worst enemies, so, indeed, this as well classifies as an offical "figure of speech"!!!???

if FIGURE OF SPEECH, was an out for anyone that wants to use it, then we would have to have a "bar", some measure, a book, of ALL THE OFFICAL "FIGURE'S OF SPEECH" CONTAINED WITHIN IT...

you cannot seperate speech into such categories in BUSINESS, IN CHURCH, IN SCHOOL, AND MOST NOT WITHIN ANY GOVERNMENT.

you indeed should be a defense attorney, for according to your definition's and statement's thus far, the predident of iran's innocent, having no malice, for his statement falls into the "figure of speech" category, due to the fact...

1. it was not aimed a ONE PERSON IN SPECIFIC, and
2. it is but a traditonal statement within the arab communtiy, just used as a customary tradition, therefore, i can assure you my client is not guilty of any malice and intent, why even last week, he helped an american women with her groceries...

omg, such rhetoric rum amock...

such rhetoric, which in plain english means BUUUUUUUULLSHIT, that it threaten's to reduce the logical deducting abilities of an entire species down the drain, for it is everywhere and deemed as acceptable and commonplace...

if my daughter say's IM GONNA STRANGLE THOSE BLACK PEOPLE, FOR TAKING ALL OUR WHITE FOLKS JOBS, SHOULD I LAUGH?

the statement show's she would really have to believe they may indeed be doing such, to even say it, perhaps not totally believing this, but, IF IT IS NOT CORREECTED, or met with any criticism, soon she will believe this AS FACT!

in politics, it is A MUCH LARGER DEAL, since we have MANY, MANY, MANY ACCUSATION'S OF CORRUPTION, PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED AND INDICTED DAILY, PEOPLE BEING HARMED, DISCREDITIED, DEFAMED, RUINED, LIVE'S DESTROYED, AND YES, ACCUSATION'S OF EVEN MURDER EACH DAY, SOILDER'S MURDERING INNOCENTS, ATF MURDERING INNOCENTS, HOMELAND SECURITY "OVER REACTING", EVEN AGAINST IT'S OWN PEOPLE, PEOPLE IMPRISONED FALSEY, by member's OF THE CURRENT REGIME, OR "POWER SYSTEM"...

and you think each word spoken by these entities is not that big a deal?

now if you think, that such speech from one as high up as VP means nothing, and should be shrugged off, than you have no idea what it takes to KEEP PEACE AND COMMUNITY AND FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY alive in any world or country, in any present day, scenario, or in past days scenario...

the GOVERNMENT OF ANY NATION, MUST SHOW KIND CONSIDERATION FOR ANY AND ALL PEOPLES, which is any and all viewpoints, for it wield's EXTREME POWER, so EXTREME CRITQUE must be at play as well, or NONE CAN CRY WHEN ITSELF IS IMPRISONED WITHOUT JUST AND DUE MERIT...

how do you think these other third world countries, first allowed dictator's into power?

thinking it was NO BIG DEAL, AND NOT REALIZING, THEY WANT NO SCRUTINY IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIFE, SO THEY EMRABCE THIS FOR LEADERS AS WELL, AND WA LAH......

CORRUPTION RUN AMOCK...

what brought SO MANY LEADER'S DOWN THRU TIME, to eventually kill and turn on their own people, those deemed disposable at least?

IF THE PEOPLE POLICE NOT THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT BECOME THE ONLY POLICE.

IT BECOMES ONE-SIDED...

A DICTATEROUS REGIME...

yes, it is a regime, FOR IF THERE IS SELF VALIDATION, OR "SELF POLICING", IT HAS BECOME A REGIME...





IM all for self policing, Im against tying up courts over words that have 'offended' someone

CONTEXT , something we are taught in grade school, makes QUITE a bit of difference

someone , for instance, walking in on a surprise party may say

'omg, Im gonna kill you guys'

and another walking in on a gang rape might say

'omg, Im gonna kill you guys' I think most rational folks could discern the different CONTEXT even though the same words were used

Bidens context and demeanor was joking, anyone trying to imply otherwise is incredibly hypocritical or incredibly naive, or just flat out full of it,,,

Redykeulous's photo
Thu 10/07/10 04:43 AM


really, really, really?

so, if i am a muslim, and i say, "i am going to kill those damn american's", it's just a figure of speech, since it was aimed at no ONE PERSON?

nothing personal huh?

muslim man surrounded by fbi agents, declaring, "it was just a figure of speech"...

POOR SHMUCK MAY INDEED BE INNOCENT OF ANY TRUE MALICE, but, since we are told "iraq's" are the BAD GUYS, he may indeed not be able to prove he is innocent, since the DECIDING FACTOR IS "TO BE DETERMINED BY HOW THE LAW BE INTERPRETED THAT DAY, AND HOW THE PEOPLE INTERPRETING IT "FELT" THAT DAY, and this will determined by if they had great sex last night or not, and depending on whom has a hangover or not???

SEE, ALL THINGS HUMAN DO IS DECIDED BY THEIR "FEELINGS", AND SINCE FEELINGS ARE NOT "CONSISTENT", AND PEOPLE'S FEELINGS DIFFER BETWEEN PEOPLE, SO, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POINT!

NO LAW SHOULD BE BASED UPON ANYTHING BEING ABLE TO BE CALLED OR DEFINED AS HATE SPEECH, and if those that pass the laws, had to actually LIVE AND BE PUNISHED BY THE SAME LAWS THEY PASS, then the laws themself would be lossened, and even obolished, as primitive, as speculative in ALL CASES, TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE DEPENDING ON THE "FEELINGS" OF ANY DIFFERENT NATIONALITY, as rememeber, the CULTURE ONE COMES FROM, EFFECTS HOW IT "FEELS"...

so, we have either threat, or no threat?

no malice huh?

you don't talk like that unless there is extreme dislike for another group of people...

please women...

if a white person call one person a niiiiiger, that is NOT ok, but, if i say "im gonna kill all them niiiiiger's, that would be ok"?

hum...

somthin just don't quite smell right here...

if Tony Blair say's he's going to "stomp those american's arse", it mean's something, BUT, he has no previous history of PERSONAL VIOLENCE?

HUM....

do we not arrest more and more people each day, for horrific crimes, that had no PREVIOUS BACKGROUND OF CRIMMINAL ACTIVITY?

doctor's son, FROM ELITE FAMILY, puts ad on craigslist and BEGIN'S TO MURDER SEX PARTNER'S?

hum...

but, IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN LISTENING INTENTLY, KNOWING THAT WORDS ARE THE TELL OF WHAT IS TO COME, ALWAYS, THEN SOMEONE WOULD HAVE BEEN CLUED IN...

you seem to not know just how much information you can tell about a person by what they say, BUT THIS CAN ONLY EVER BE KNOWN IF THE MIND FIRST ASSIMILATE ALL DATA AS EQUAL IN VALUE, OR ALL WORDS AS BEING CRITICAL, OR EXTREMELY IMPORTANT...

you can know who is a contyrol friek, whom would kill under the right conditon's, who would betray you if push comes to shove, who would **** your women if no one knew, who would rape your daughter if no one else was on planet earth...

you can tell ALL THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ADVANCE, BY THE WORDS THAT ARE SPOKEN...

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING PERSONAL HERE AT ALL?

but, people's lives are PERSONAL, AND A WORLD LEADER, ONE HOLDING THEIR FATE IN HIS HANDS, NEEDS TO TAKE EVERYTHING SERIOUS, AND AS IF EACH HUMAN BEING IS HIS OWN CHILD!

VERY PERSONAL...

EACH WORD OUT OF THE MOUTH, TELLS OUR ALLY AND ENEMY ALIKE WHERE OUR "HEAD IS"...

this effects how the usa is "treated" by each ally and enemey alike...

and this is not important as well, just no big deal?

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED YET, THERE IS NO SMALL DEAL.

EVERYTHING IS A BIG DEAL, FOR EVERYTHING MAKE SOMETHING ELSE HAPPEN, AND SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING HAPPEN'S TO PEOPLE, AND ALL THAT HAPPENS TO PEOPLE IS IMPORTANT, IS IT NOT?

you are using the same standards you wish to apply to YOURSELF, for world leader's, WHOM HOLD YOUR LIFE and the life of ALL HUMANS IN THEIR HANDS?

your just not thinking as this on a daily basis, so you cannot see the magnitude of how each ripple effect and create something, either MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

was it MORE GOOD, OR LESS GOOD?

AND, SINCE IT EFFECT BILLIONS, THE ENTIRE WORLD, AS WE EFFECT ALL OTHER NATIONS, THEN WHOLE WORLD BIG DEAL...

problem is, the politician's are constantly playing on the sympathy of the commoner, and downplaying their own power and the seriousness of it, TO KEEP THE PEOPLE FROM ASKING TO MANY QUESTION'S, and to keep themself from being scutinized...

IF YOU WALK ONTO A PRIVATE CHARTER BOAT, WITH YOUR FAMILY, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK TO SEE SPEAK TO THE CAPTAIN, to get a feel for his qualification's, which you shall immediately be able to access, if when you ask, you are met with distain or pride and indignace...

but, ask a captian of a vessel, whom cares about other people, what his qualification's are, and he will immediately respond with the knowing that you are a concerned parent, just as he is, and not take any offense to your line of questioning...

it all in the pride...

if they have pride, it's either true pride or false pride...

if their corrupt, they will have false pride, the kind that does not want you to look around, or to be scrutinized...

if they have true pride, then they gotta be squeaky clean, and if their squeaky clean, they will be proud to allow you to scrutinize them, knowing their affairs, or integrity, be in order...

they will easily admit if they were out of line...

easily say the words i was wrong...

but, then when was the last time you heard any politician admit they were wrong with some excuse, the best one, "no body is perfect"...

only what has guilt, and know's itself lacks considerably, uses this one, lol...

problem is, your own standard is way to low, for you yourself said, you were taught to take full accountability for yourself?

FULL ACCOUNTABILITY, ALSO PERTAINS TO WORDS!

WORDS START WARS AND CREATE "ALL CONFLICT"!

HELLO!

WORDS BY WORLD LEADERS CREATE WORLD CONFLICT AND WORLD WARS!

this namby pambi, validate whomever one wish, whatever one wish, whomever is one's personal fav, whomever gives to oneself what it wishes, is just precisely why our country and now the entire world is in the self validation no one will admit their wrong mess that it is in...

the good ole buddy system...

everybody wants a free pass, by the buddy system, until the buddy system oneself is under, until the same is done to them, then it's another story, and they demand justice and respect and cry and whimper when thrown under the bus...

i suppose ole pres. of iran saying "american leader's should be destroyed, their soul, their table, their body, for the stain they are upon the world", falls into the """figure of speech category"""?

figure of speech, yes, for it is indeed, against an entire group of people, and it is but a traditional thing that the arab community reserves for their worst enemies, so, indeed, this as well classifies as an offical "figure of speech"!!!???

if FIGURE OF SPEECH, was an out for anyone that wants to use it, then we would have to have a "bar", some measure, a book, of ALL THE OFFICAL "FIGURE'S OF SPEECH" CONTAINED WITHIN IT...

you cannot seperate speech into such categories in BUSINESS, IN CHURCH, IN SCHOOL, AND MOST NOT WITHIN ANY GOVERNMENT.

you indeed should be a defense attorney, for according to your definition's and statement's thus far, the predident of iran's innocent, having no malice, for his statement falls into the "figure of speech" category, due to the fact...

1. it was not aimed a ONE PERSON IN SPECIFIC, and
2. it is but a traditonal statement within the arab communtiy, just used as a customary tradition, therefore, i can assure you my client is not guilty of any malice and intent, why even last week, he helped an american women with her groceries...

omg, such rhetoric rum amock...

such rhetoric, which in plain english means BUUUUUUUULLSHIT, that it threaten's to reduce the logical deducting abilities of an entire species down the drain, for it is everywhere and deemed as acceptable and commonplace...

if my daughter say's IM GONNA STRANGLE THOSE BLACK PEOPLE, FOR TAKING ALL OUR WHITE FOLKS JOBS, SHOULD I LAUGH?

the statement show's she would really have to believe they may indeed be doing such, to even say it, perhaps not totally believing this, but, IF IT IS NOT CORREECTED, or met with any criticism, soon she will believe this AS FACT!

in politics, it is A MUCH LARGER DEAL, since we have MANY, MANY, MANY ACCUSATION'S OF CORRUPTION, PEOPLE BEING ARRESTED AND INDICTED DAILY, PEOPLE BEING HARMED, DISCREDITIED, DEFAMED, RUINED, LIVE'S DESTROYED, AND YES, ACCUSATION'S OF EVEN MURDER EACH DAY, SOILDER'S MURDERING INNOCENTS, ATF MURDERING INNOCENTS, HOMELAND SECURITY "OVER REACTING", EVEN AGAINST IT'S OWN PEOPLE, PEOPLE IMPRISONED FALSEY, by member's OF THE CURRENT REGIME, OR "POWER SYSTEM"...

and you think each word spoken by these entities is not that big a deal?

now if you think, that such speech from one as high up as VP means nothing, and should be shrugged off, than you have no idea what it takes to KEEP PEACE AND COMMUNITY AND FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY alive in any world or country, in any present day, scenario, or in past days scenario...

the GOVERNMENT OF ANY NATION, MUST SHOW KIND CONSIDERATION FOR ANY AND ALL PEOPLES, which is any and all viewpoints, for it wield's EXTREME POWER, so EXTREME CRITQUE must be at play as well, or NONE CAN CRY WHEN ITSELF IS IMPRISONED WITHOUT JUST AND DUE MERIT...

how do you think these other third world countries, first allowed dictator's into power?

thinking it was NO BIG DEAL, AND NOT REALIZING, THEY WANT NO SCRUTINY IN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIFE, SO THEY EMRABCE THIS FOR LEADERS AS WELL, AND WA LAH......

CORRUPTION RUN AMOCK...

what brought SO MANY LEADER'S DOWN THRU TIME, to eventually kill and turn on their own people, those deemed disposable at least?

IF THE PEOPLE POLICE NOT THE GOVERNMENT, THE GOVERNMENT BECOME THE ONLY POLICE.

IT BECOMES ONE-SIDED...

A DICTATEROUS REGIME...

yes, it is a regime, FOR IF THERE IS SELF VALIDATION, OR "SELF POLICING", IT HAS BECOME A REGIME...





IM all for self policing, Im against tying up courts over words that have 'offended' someone

CONTEXT , something we are taught in grade school, makes QUITE a bit of difference

someone , for instance, walking in on a surprise party may say

'omg, Im gonna kill you guys'

and another walking in on a gang rape might say

'omg, Im gonna kill you guys' I think most rational folks could discern the different CONTEXT even though the same words were used

Bidens context and demeanor was joking, anyone trying to imply otherwise is incredibly hypocritical or incredibly naive, or just flat out full of it,,,


I have to agree. An actual threat to cause physical harm can be considered a felony. How can it be considered a felonly? When there are ways, means, and reasonable belief, that the threat is valid.

Is there a way for Biden to strangle every republican? Does he have the means to identify and locate every republican to carry out the threat. Has the threat made republicans fear for thier lives on a daily basis? Is there any reason such as "personal" history between every individual republican that could add 'context' to the threat?

Actually there is more here because there is a kind of history, in fact it might the republicans who found guilty, should they attempt to bring suit against Biden. If we review the context through which the alleged theat was made there could be evidence of republicans chiding Biden, attempting to raise his emotional state. It could even be considered mass stalking.

I mean Biden has to contend with republicans all day every day and he is certainly more identifiable then republicans are to him. They know the situation, they are the ones who refused to submit a budget and who filibustered other legislation - for spite. (and more)

So they could be using that as a tool to cause him emotional distress or even to bully him to the point that he leaves his job. That too is a crime, possibly harassment.

Actually which actions (considering the context) do you think has more reason to be considered worthy of being reported as a crime?


Peccy's photo
Thu 10/07/10 06:28 AM
Seriously people, everything that is wrong with this country right now and you're wasting time on a hollow remark? That's the problem with this country right there. If someone's remarks dare be against something or someone you are for, then all hell breaks loose. Just stop for a second, look at what you're arguing about! A person who vocalized an opinion. GASP! Have we all not done the same thing? How about when someone cuts you off in traffic? We know nothing about them, but they're immediately labeled a moron. Was it right for the VP to say that? No. Is it sensible to go over that statement and come up with 10000000 different scenarios as to why he said it? You be the judge; however, I vote no.

Seakolony's photo
Thu 10/07/10 06:35 AM

Seriously people, everything that is wrong with this country right now and you're wasting time on a hollow remark? That's the problem with this country right there. If someone's remarks dare be against something or someone you are for, then all hell breaks loose. Just stop for a second, look at what you're arguing about! A person who vocalized an opinion. GASP! Have we all not done the same thing? How about when someone cuts you off in traffic? We know nothing about them, but they're immediately labeled a moron. Was it right for the VP to say that? No. Is it sensible to go over that statement and come up with 10000000 different scenarios as to why he said it? You be the judge; however, I vote no.

And being from the first state what do you think of Biden.......still wondering if Beau plans to pursue politics? Yeah I agree its stupid LMAO........Still wouldnt vote for him for President though.......everyone felt for Biden because of the loss of his beloved wife....sometimes I think her memory carried him

willing2's photo
Thu 10/07/10 06:55 AM
Strangling someone else's neck is one way Biden can get votes.
Just didn't know he was willing to choke Republican chickens.:wink: