think I could convince a judge it was justifiable or at least temporary insanity??? Anyone who met him would probably understand

not soon enough. I'm sure if he didn't have a place to freeload on, he would leave her and move on.

My family makes it uncomfortable for him (no one likes him) so he just don't really talk to him. He is either delusional and doesn't see it or doesn't care lol.

I haven't met his family, but I'm pretty sure I won't like them. They aren't much better than him (from what I have been told)

Might need to take up a collection for bail money if I ever meet them

I'm there for ya' Kim!

we have people (friends of the kids) come over all the time. They use the yard to throw their cigarette butts down. I'm thinking about making a yard sign saying something like "Watch your butts"

sounds like child entitlement syndrome

I knew many kids like this growing up, they felt that just by nature of their parents being their parents that whatever their parents had belonged to them and whatever they wanted was their parents obligation to provide ,, I also know many ADULTS who still feel this way about their parents

sounds as if your niece is a classic case

my niece was different than the hubby. She was a straight A student, worked hard and all you had to do was ask her to do something and she was right there doing it. She went downhill with this guy. I think she caught the entitlement bug.

The hubby was kicked out of high school (sent to a reform type school) because he exposed himself to a girl in class. He is on probation for a terroristic threat (threatened someone with a knife) and just completed anger management classes (he needs a refund on those BTW)

He gets it from his family. My grandmother (and others in my family) are hard workers....with the exception of a few) My grandmother STILL mows her several acres of grass

But the people that come over....I would NEVER think about throwing cigarette butts on someone's yard. I think that is rude to trash someone's house.

My experience here is just an example. I know there are many other's out there. I just don't get it. My aunt (who is a year older than me) is the same way. She drained my grandmother financially and got mad because my grandmother expected her to make payments to repay her (even little amounts....just something) and she wouldn't even keep the house she was living in (owned by my grandmother....rent free) clean.

it's absolutely crazy.

you know yellowrose, i have seemed to stumble into the keeper of lost souls role so often. usually teens/young adults, friends of the family, who get temporarily misplaced. it does astound me how they have little regard for how the household is supposed to be run, reponsibilities shared, and at the very least, clean up their own messes. i really don't understand it myself, and it comes with a price, often our sanity!! i have arrived at the point of finding i can either stay in the situation and give up on expectations, OR remove myself from the situation. not always possible for people to do, but some times you just find yourself to that point. good luck to you!!

you feel my pain huh? This is why I live in my room (unless I'm out and about) but it's sad that people can cause turmoil to others and they can still sleep at night (unless I decide to do late night dishes )

and the more clankity clank you can make, the better!

it's a great way (maybe not mature) to get frustration out


AND what I have posted in here is only the tip of the iceberg. Anyone want iced tea???

i'm having a nICE ICE latte!!

Yellowrose, I understand your situation.. When I married my second husband his daughter and younger son (the older one was married) did nothing around the house.. The son finally moved out, the daughter stayed till she was 24 and I told her she had to find her own place and gave her 6 wks to do so.. My husband bought the son 2 cars, he had only a very small payment, and would make 3 payments then no more.. The daughter (after flunking out of college) would sleep till 1pm, her room was a mess, wouldn't help with any cleaning(I was working) and her dad still paid her car ins and AAA dues and gave her money although she was working parttime.. Six months after she moved out and not speaking to me, she told me that was the best thing I could have done for her..She did repay her dad for the car he bought for her..
A lot of young people are like that today.. They feel like you owe them everything...

Bastet....I have plenty of ice

Mssilverfox....I tend to see that more often with the younger generation (wow I never thought I would use that phrase ) I do see some older ones like that too

I just want to walk up to those people and ask them why they are a boil on the butt of humanity and tell them to go to the doctor for a lancing

I could dress up like Don Quixote and instead of windmills....lance the boils. That would make an interesting insanity defense

Humm knowing you it surprises me you have not gave them your piece of mind yet!!!!

Get a big bucket fill it with sand put out front with a sign in it that says "Put Your Butts Here" .........

Let it be known what they are suppose to do don't let them make everyone's life miserable.
I have helped family and friends in the past it worked out good at first then they wore out their welcome finally had to say a few times that it was time for them to find a place....

I like living by myself but if I welcome someone into my home the least I expect is for them to pick up after themselves and help me do things around the house if they are staying for a while...

oh I have. Got in his face and told him he was nothing but a punk. The problem is my sister getting worked up and I don't want to add to the drama for my sister's sake. Trust me....I have A LOT more to say

They know their chores....basically pick up after yourself. They are the only ones that use the living room and the trash in the yard is from them or their friends....but I have let it go for a while until I get worked up because they are trashing my families house and I want it to be at least decent for my sister.

I have a big bucket and 2 ash cans (the kind with holes in the lids to extinguish the smoke) and EVERYONE knows where they are. They just don't care.

And of course when you confront them....they try to throw someone else under the bus and shift the conversation off of them. My sister and I tag teamed once when we were tearing into him. My brother in law just sat back watching like it was a tennis match. He wasn't about to get in between lol. My sister is the type that would say "let's hold hands and sing Kumbaya" and I'm the exact opposite. So when Dawn gets mad...you better duck and cover. I won't even argue with my sister at that point

what's really sad is none of the family wants anything to do with their engagement party (which they are trying to push off onto my grandmother). Even my sister doesn't want to go. My nephew has disowned his sister. It's honestly tearing the family into us against them basically.

It is sad and times it is hard but there comes a time the foot has to be put down and tell those that do not appreciate what is given to them. That it is no longer for the taken and it is time for them to move on....

I had to do that to a friend of mine that has been around me for 23 years got tired of being taken advantage of. Believe me it all worked out for the best in the end.

It will finally have to come down to that point it is best for your sister to be upset for a short time then for everyone to be miserable long term....

Kristi,

Can I give you my sister's phone number and you tell her that? She is getting to that point VERY quickly now any way.....so keep your fingers crossed.

this tread is about me, isn't it ?

I would take you....good and bad...over them any day

lazy trash...