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One more year to go then we can vote Rick Perry into office!  From Rick Perry's 2007 inaugural speech: Illegal immigration drains the resources of our schools, our hospitals and our law enforcement agencies. But I do not believe it is realistic to deport 12 million people already here illegally. We have to understand why millions of people come here, and why many more have died trying, it is for something as basic as the freedom to find a job and feed their families. -Kerry O. |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. So, its okay for him to look the other way some of the times when, as you put it, 'Crimes are being committed' and to soft-pedal the problem. Isn't that what the German people did when the real 'der Fuhrer' did what he did? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant when you take a hard-line stance, but fail to accept the consequences and backslide when businesses want to keep getting their cheap illegal immigrant labor? -Kerry O. |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. So, its okay for him to look the other way some of the times when, as you put it, 'Crimes are being committed' and to soft-pedal the problem. Isn't that what the German people did when the real 'der Fuhrer' did what he did? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant when you take a hard-line stance, but fail to accept the consequences and backslide when businesses want to keep getting their cheap illegal immigrant labor? -Kerry O. He panders to the religious right and the religious right want amnesty for illegals. It is not surprising. Do you think Bush would have put his neck on the block pushing some half assed "comprehensive immigration reform" if he didn't have the backing of the idiots that voted for him? |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. So, its okay for him to look the other way some of the times when, as you put it, 'Crimes are being committed' and to soft-pedal the problem. Isn't that what the German people did when the real 'der Fuhrer' did what he did? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant when you take a hard-line stance, but fail to accept the consequences and backslide when businesses want to keep getting their cheap illegal immigrant labor? -Kerry O. Nope |
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One more year to go then we can vote Rick Perry into office! I can't wait to watch that campaign on the national stage. |
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Perry? Didn't he double the Texas debt? Just what we need!
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i think immigration law is important... if the president can't set an example, then he doesn't need to be president... When you have complete control over every single member of your family let us know. No but I am sure he was aware of his uncles condition. That he was currently committing a crime. why are you sure? do you know all of your relatives activities? And if he is/was aware? so what? What was he supposed to personally do that there isnt already authority in place to take care of? All activities? No. In a different country especially illegally yes. Especially if I was the president of that country? Probably more so. Especially when the uncle said he wanted to call the "white house". Should he have personally taken care of it? Maybe maybe not. It does hurt him though. I mean its not gonna look good for reelection. Now people can claim he allowed foreign relatives to live here illegally whether he had anything to do with it or not. Its just bad press. Did he do anything illegal? No he didn't. You do hold the president to higher moral standards though. wow, when does what our relatives do have to do with our own personal morals? Hopefully the voting public isnt that detached and delusional,,, or perhaps they are....scary Knowing someone is committing a crime you have a moral obligation to turn them in. At least most people do. Maybe if you see someone committing a crime you don't feel obligated to call the police. He is president and could easily have them deported if he wished. He also could have people leave them alone if he wished. As they are the presidents family I am sure someone somewhere knew where they were and we actually keeping tabs on them. What do I believe the president should do in this situation? He should call his family and fist ask them to leave saying what their presence in this country illegally could damage his campaign. After that he has a decision to make. Force them to leave or over look a crime because its family. Seeing he is the president and held to a higher standard I know which one I feel he should choose. or he could let immigration do immigrations job as there is no way to KNOW what someones immigration status is without taking the time to research it,, time he is supposed to be spending dealing with the issues of the COUNTRY, not his distant relatives,,,, An uncle is not a distant relative no matter how little you see him. I stand by that they are not going to deport the presidents uncle w/o the presidents permission. I am sure a flag flies up somewhere when they process it that it is his uncle. Kids of politicians get out of trouble all the time because of who their parents are. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Tue 08/30/11 07:58 PM
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i think immigration law is important... if the president can't set an example, then he doesn't need to be president... When you have complete control over every single member of your family let us know. No but I am sure he was aware of his uncles condition. That he was currently committing a crime. why are you sure? do you know all of your relatives activities? And if he is/was aware? so what? What was he supposed to personally do that there isnt already authority in place to take care of? All activities? No. In a different country especially illegally yes. Especially if I was the president of that country? Probably more so. Especially when the uncle said he wanted to call the "white house". Should he have personally taken care of it? Maybe maybe not. It does hurt him though. I mean its not gonna look good for reelection. Now people can claim he allowed foreign relatives to live here illegally whether he had anything to do with it or not. Its just bad press. Did he do anything illegal? No he didn't. You do hold the president to higher moral standards though. wow, when does what our relatives do have to do with our own personal morals? Hopefully the voting public isnt that detached and delusional,,, or perhaps they are....scary Knowing someone is committing a crime you have a moral obligation to turn them in. At least most people do. Maybe if you see someone committing a crime you don't feel obligated to call the police. He is president and could easily have them deported if he wished. He also could have people leave them alone if he wished. As they are the presidents family I am sure someone somewhere knew where they were and we actually keeping tabs on them. What do I believe the president should do in this situation? He should call his family and fist ask them to leave saying what their presence in this country illegally could damage his campaign. After that he has a decision to make. Force them to leave or over look a crime because its family. Seeing he is the president and held to a higher standard I know which one I feel he should choose. or he could let immigration do immigrations job as there is no way to KNOW what someones immigration status is without taking the time to research it,, time he is supposed to be spending dealing with the issues of the COUNTRY, not his distant relatives,,,, An uncle is not a distant relative no matter how little you see him. I stand by that they are not going to deport the presidents uncle w/o the presidents permission. I am sure a flag flies up somewhere when they process it that it is his uncle. Kids of politicians get out of trouble all the time because of who their parents are. An uncle can be a complete STRANGER. Biology doesnt automatically give people a relationship. Is there some evidence of the immigration department asking PERMISSION from a sitting President to follow the process already outlined for ANY IMMIGRANT? Why would this be different. Laws are laws, what you speak of is favoritism which would be every bit as inappropriate as whatever is being implied in this piece about a relative of the presidents being detained instead of ORDERED BY THE PRESIDENT to be immediately deported. That would be a misuse of power that isnt assigned to a President. Unlike leaving immigration to treat his relative like any other immigrant. I wouldnt expect a President to call a Judge or a police officer to disrupt their job by demanding they come to a specific decision, Why would this be any different? |
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That does happen. Have you heard of a presidential pardon? Favoritism does happen when politics are concerned. That doesn't make it right but that also doesn't mean it doesn't happen. What about diplomatic immunity? Some people can't even be charged with a crime.
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 08/31/11 07:16 AM
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That does happen. Have you heard of a presidential pardon? Favoritism does happen when politics are concerned. That doesn't make it right but that also doesn't mean it doesn't happen. What about diplomatic immunity? Some people can't even be charged with a crime. apples and oranges, PARDONS are a part of the PRESIDENTS assigned privileges decisions on individual immigrations are not PARDONS happen AFTER the Judge has made their decision, while a person is on death row awaiting execution I Have not heard of a president overturning or interfering with an immigrants deportation or retention AFTER or BEFORE immigration comes to its independent decision we have a process and that includes specific departments doint specific things, that process doesnt include the president making personal/independent decisions in individual immigration cases... DIPLOMATIC immunity is also a privilege that is on the books there isnt any privilege assigned to a President in Immigration cases, the most that can be done is for there to be a committee or board assigned to review immigration decisions, What could happen and whats 'constitutional' are not the same thing. IF a PResident were to interfere with the immigration process he better be able to show where it was a matter of national security or life and death,,, something other than that it was a distant relative |
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you libs can whine and shoot around the issue all you want, asking how relevant something is and controlling family members, but it all boils down to a crime is a crime. if obummer can't even keep his own family under control and not doing something to make them legals, then he is not even remotely presidential material. to bad you libs cannot not even see how lame this guy is. but whatever, you just keep him in there for another 4 years to ruin the country a little more.... Seriously? So what you are saying is that he should keep his "family" under control? What does that have to do with Obama's ability to be president? This is a free country. Presidents are not required to keep their relatives "under control." This is really grasping at straws in the hate campaign against the president. |
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you libs can whine and shoot around the issue all you want, asking how relevant something is and controlling family members, but it all boils down to a crime is a crime. if obummer can't even keep his own family under control and not doing something to make them legals, then he is not even remotely presidential material. to bad you libs cannot not even see how lame this guy is. but whatever, you just keep him in there for another 4 years to ruin the country a little more.... Seriously? So what you are saying is that he should keep his "family" under control? What does that have to do with Obama's ability to be president? This is a free country. Presidents are not required to keep their relatives "under control." This is really grasping at straws in the hate campaign against the president. anyone in a high position is going to be under the spotlight (and their family and friends). i remember jimmy carter having to deal with his brother billy. thing is they should know this could cause major problems and should take preventive measures (the movie black sheep pokes fun of this issue) |
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If keeping your family in line or having a perfect family is required for being the President, in the future who on earth would even want to be president?
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Edited by
Lpdon
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Wed 08/31/11 01:30 PM
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i think immigration law is important... if the president can't set an example, then he doesn't need to be president... When you have complete control over every single member of your family let us know. No but I am sure he was aware of his uncles condition. That he was currently committing a crime. why are you sure? do you know all of your relatives activities? And if he is/was aware? so what? What was he supposed to personally do that there isnt already authority in place to take care of? All activities? No. In a different country especially illegally yes. Especially if I was the president of that country? Probably more so. Especially when the uncle said he wanted to call the "white house". Should he have personally taken care of it? Maybe maybe not. It does hurt him though. I mean its not gonna look good for reelection. Now people can claim he allowed foreign relatives to live here illegally whether he had anything to do with it or not. Its just bad press. Did he do anything illegal? No he didn't. You do hold the president to higher moral standards though. wow, when does what our relatives do have to do with our own personal morals? Hopefully the voting public isnt that detached and delusional,,, or perhaps they are....scary Knowing someone is committing a crime you have a moral obligation to turn them in. At least most people do. Maybe if you see someone committing a crime you don't feel obligated to call the police. He is president and could easily have them deported if he wished. He also could have people leave them alone if he wished. As they are the presidents family I am sure someone somewhere knew where they were and we actually keeping tabs on them. What do I believe the president should do in this situation? He should call his family and fist ask them to leave saying what their presence in this country illegally could damage his campaign. After that he has a decision to make. Force them to leave or over look a crime because its family. Seeing he is the president and held to a higher standard I know which one I feel he should choose. or he could let immigration do immigrations job as there is no way to KNOW what someones immigration status is without taking the time to research it,, time he is supposed to be spending dealing with the issues of the COUNTRY, not his distant relatives,,,, An uncle is not a distant relative no matter how little you see him. I stand by that they are not going to deport the presidents uncle w/o the presidents permission. I am sure a flag flies up somewhere when they process it that it is his uncle. Kids of politicians get out of trouble all the time because of who their parents are. Not just kids, look at Clinton's and Carter's brothers.......... |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. So, its okay for him to look the other way some of the times when, as you put it, 'Crimes are being committed' and to soft-pedal the problem. Isn't that what the German people did when the real 'der Fuhrer' did what he did? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant when you take a hard-line stance, but fail to accept the consequences and backslide when businesses want to keep getting their cheap illegal immigrant labor? -Kerry O. Nope Yes. Rick Perry, Flip-Flopper. -Kerry O. |
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I stand by that they are not going to deport the presidents uncle w/o the presidents permission. Does getting caught get you deported? I still haven't seen anything to indicate that the uncle is illegally in the US. |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. So how do you feel about amnesty, then? Because in the past that's what Rick Perry has felt toward the illegal immigration problem, that in certain cases, illegals should be given amnesty. As the current Texas governor, he has also taken the position that illegal immigration is a federal problem, and has even tried to bill the Dept. of Homeland Security for certain expenses incurred by Texas in connection with illegal immigration. With his 'shoddy' record on illegal immigration, is he going to go soft on illegal if he should be so lucky as to get into the Oval Office? Inquiring minds want to know... -Kerry O. He has done more to fight illegal immigration then the Fuhrer has. So, its okay for him to look the other way some of the times when, as you put it, 'Crimes are being committed' and to soft-pedal the problem. Isn't that what the German people did when the real 'der Fuhrer' did what he did? Isn't that like being a little bit pregnant when you take a hard-line stance, but fail to accept the consequences and backslide when businesses want to keep getting their cheap illegal immigrant labor? -Kerry O. Nope Yes. Rick Perry, Flip-Flopper. -Kerry O. He is still better then the new Fuhrer, Obama! |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. I don't get this. Obama's uncle checked in with the President to let him know that he was going to be drunk driving, and the President did nothing about it? Is that what you're saying? |
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Knowing a crime is being committed and doing nothing about it is a CRIME. I don't get this. Obama's uncle checked in with the President to let him know that he was going to be drunk driving, and the President did nothing about it? Is that what you're saying? lol., I think the connection was with the 'alleged' immigrant status of his uncle, which the authorities who ISSUED Such status are already aware of...lol and then theres the assumption that since they are 'related' , OBama does(or should) keep tabs on the wherabouts and activities of his uncle from out of the oval office in Washington enough to 'know' that he is here illegally and DEMAND the immigration expedite their process to remove him,,,, |
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