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Topic: "Real men" and "real women!"
GreenEyes48's photo
Fri 08/24/12 09:05 AM
How would you define a "real man" or a "real woman?" Just curious...Do you have a lot of expectations when it comes to gender roles?

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Fri 08/24/12 09:10 AM
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navygirl's photo
Fri 08/24/12 09:13 AM

How would you define a "real man" or a "real woman?" Just curious...Do you have a lot of expectations when it comes to gender roles?


Actually, no I don't have a lot of expectations as I don't believe in gender roles. A person should be who they are meant to be, live the way they want to, and our society has no right to define what a man or woman should do or how they should behave. I also hate when I hear its a blue or pink job. Who cares? As long as the work gets done; what does gender have to do with it? Very silly concept as far as I am concerned.

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Fri 08/24/12 09:19 AM
real man=beard.

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 08/24/12 09:24 AM
Personality, intellect, looks...In that order.

It seems more demanding than I think it is since most of the time the first two don't exist.

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Fri 08/24/12 09:57 AM

real man=beard.




bahahaha..drinks

soufiehere's photo
Fri 08/24/12 10:04 AM
When I was very young, around 8, there was a
question posed in class 'Who do you want
to marry when you grow up?'
Everyone wrote their (long) lists of what
they expected their future mate to look like.

As I could not see that far into the future,
I wrote only 'I want to marry a real man.'
This got all sorts of (unwanted) attention.

'What do you mean?' 'How will you tell?'
I could not answer but stuck to my guns.
The teacher passed this on to my parents,
who would drill me about it all the time.

So, in the family it became a game.
Whenever a new man would be in our house,
my Mother would say 'Is that a REAL man?'
tongue in cheek, with a smile.

I would go all serious, study him, listen
to him, then tug at her skirt and say,
'Yes, he is a real man' or, more often,
'No, he is not a real man' with a really
sad face.

At first it was very funny, but I was
always serious. As time went by, everyone
would ask me to pronounce yay or nay.

We would be at weddings, funerals, church
and someone would always nudge me, point
to someone and ask.

I always felt I was right, although there
were a few times I had to change my opinion.

It is something unique about each fellow, and
to try to define it, it was that whoever,
whatever they were, they were themselves, and
(though I hate to use the word confident) they
were conficent that, that was enough.

Perhaps it is that they meet or exceed their
own standards, as opposed to anyone else's.

They could be silent, or a jabberer, still it
always showed to me.

I had an uncle, wee bitty man, shorter than me,
who, when he entered a room, immediately commanded it.
I used to just watch him, to see what he did.
He did nothing..he just..was.

A direct look at you, very intense, it made one feel
so special..a killer smile, his look was like..
a blessing, best I can describe it.

A real man.

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 10:10 AM
Thier Heart and how they treat others tells me everything!!! A lady with compassion for others and shows respect is a woman worth knowing!!!

GreenEyes48's photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:05 AM

When I was very young, around 8, there was a
question posed in class 'Who do you want
to marry when you grow up?'
Everyone wrote their (long) lists of what
they expected their future mate to look like.

As I could not see that far into the future,
I wrote only 'I want to marry a real man.'
This got all sorts of (unwanted) attention.

'What do you mean?' 'How will you tell?'
I could not answer but stuck to my guns.
The teacher passed this on to my parents,
who would drill me about it all the time.

So, in the family it became a game.
Whenever a new man would be in our house,
my Mother would say 'Is that a REAL man?'
tongue in cheek, with a smile.

I would go all serious, study him, listen
to him, then tug at her skirt and say,
'Yes, he is a real man' or, more often,
'No, he is not a real man' with a really
sad face.

At first it was very funny, but I was
always serious. As time went by, everyone
would ask me to pronounce yay or nay.

We would be at weddings, funerals, church
and someone would always nudge me, point
to someone and ask.

I always felt I was right, although there
were a few times I had to change my opinion.

It is something unique about each fellow, and
to try to define it, it was that whoever,
whatever they were, they were themselves, and
(though I hate to use the word confident) they
were conficent that, that was enough.

Perhaps it is that they meet or exceed their
own standards, as opposed to anyone else's.

They could be silent, or a jabberer, still it
always showed to me.

I had an uncle, wee bitty man, shorter than me,
who, when he entered a room, immediately commanded it.
I used to just watch him, to see what he did.
He did nothing..he just..was.

A direct look at you, very intense, it made one feel
so special..a killer smile, his look was like..
a blessing, best I can describe it.

A real man.
Thanks for sharing your story! (And views.)

Simonedemidova's photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:10 AM

Thier Heart and how they treat others tells me everything!!! A lady with compassion for others and shows respect is a woman worth knowing!!!


happy happy happy happy happy

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:21 AM
real women wear big bulging sunglassesshades

Simonedemidova's photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:50 AM

real women wear big bulging sunglassesshades


Well that settles it then. I'm legit! love

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 11:59 AM
I live and let live. I've never been one to say that just because someone is male or female that they should do this or that. There's a reason tomboys exist. They do their own thing. If someone wants to change who you are, well they can go take a run and jump. You are you. You can't live life caring what others think :)

GreenEyes48's photo
Fri 08/24/12 12:06 PM


How would you define a "real man" or a "real woman?" Just curious...Do you have a lot of expectations when it comes to gender roles?


Actually, no I don't have a lot of expectations as I don't believe in gender roles. A person should be who they are meant to be, live the way they want to, and our society has no right to define what a man or woman should do or how they should behave. I also hate when I hear its a blue or pink job. Who cares? As long as the work gets done; what does gender have to do with it? Very silly concept as far as I am concerned.
I agree...But I guess some people enjoy having fixed and distinct roles. (Based on gender.) This probably gives them a sense of security...Everything seems "set" and predictable. They have their script and they know how act. And they know what to expect from the opposite sex too when everyone "does roles."...Don't you think?

Simonedemidova's photo
Fri 08/24/12 12:08 PM
Realistically people need to have some self responsibility in which they care for themselves. Ethically human nature calls us to care for one another in times of need. Morally society has formed a manly man figure in which all responsibilities are burdened. This is an outdated theory. Some men still hold their conscious to this belief and to each their own. I am always willing to pay my fair share. The key is balance and without it epic failure.

navygirl's photo
Fri 08/24/12 12:20 PM



How would you define a "real man" or a "real woman?" Just curious...Do you have a lot of expectations when it comes to gender roles?


Actually, no I don't have a lot of expectations as I don't believe in gender roles. A person should be who they are meant to be, live the way they want to, and our society has no right to define what a man or woman should do or how they should behave. I also hate when I hear its a blue or pink job. Who cares? As long as the work gets done; what does gender have to do with it? Very silly concept as far as I am concerned.
I agree...But I guess some people enjoy having fixed and distinct roles. (Based on gender.) This probably gives them a sense of security...Everything seems "set" and predictable. They have their script and they know how act. And they know what to expect from the opposite sex too when everyone "does roles."...Don't you think?


I don't think outlining a person's role is a good way to feel secure. I for one don't think we should follow a script as I think it limits one potential. I think that is old school thinking. Me; I like to think out of the box. I have done many things like renos, auto mechanics, serving in the military, and even defending myself which was primarily considered a man's role. I feel this has made me a better well-rounded person. I think having these skills would be an asset in a relationship. I think its also a way to connect with your partner as you have something in common and can work together. I always think what happens if my partner gets hurt, travels a lot with his work, or worse yet; dies. I can continue to do things and not worry about being gouged by some repairman or contractor. Besides predictable means boring and doesn't make for a lasting relationship. However; what do I know as I am and always will be single.

GreenEyes48's photo
Fri 08/24/12 02:54 PM
navygirl...I agree with you! I don't want to be stuck in a corner or a box either!...Luckily I found a man who didn't want to be stuck in a box either. And we were happily married for decades. (Until he passed away.)...Now it feels weird to be approached by men (at times) who expect me to play out a role. It's just not me at all!...Congratulations for all you have accomplished in your life on your own!

no photo
Fri 08/24/12 03:13 PM
A Real Woman????

She is who she is, regardless of what anyone thinks.
She has an opinion, based on knowledge and understanding.
She respects and has compassion for those who deserve it.
She has a wicked sense of humor and a sharp quick wit.
She has a mind that makes a man think.
She commands respect because she offers it.
She is Beautiful inside, which only makes her outside Beauty Glow!!
She makes her own way in life, yet is able to share with her Man.
She expects and requires her man to make his own way and share as well.
She Brings a Smile to the face of all she comes in contact with.
She will not, however hesitate to.....tell you like it is!!!!
This is my definition of a real Woman!!!!

You know who you are......bigsmile

navygirl's photo
Fri 08/24/12 04:07 PM

navygirl...I agree with you! I don't want to be stuck in a corner or a box either!...Luckily I found a man who didn't want to be stuck in a box either. And we were happily married for decades. (Until he passed away.)...Now it feels weird to be approached by men (at times) who expect me to play out a role. It's just not me at all!...Congratulations for all you have accomplished in your life on your own!


Thanks Greeneyes. Sounds like you had a great guy. Men like that are indeed rare to meet and of course the ones I do meet like that are married. Personally; doing things for myself gives me a great sense of accomplishment. I am glad to hear that there are women like you out there that won't play out a role. I respect you for that. flowerforyou

blueeyes2000's photo
Fri 08/24/12 04:15 PM

When I was very young, around 8, there was a
question posed in class 'Who do you want
to marry when you grow up?'
Everyone wrote their (long) lists of what
they expected their future mate to look like.

As I could not see that far into the future,
I wrote only 'I want to marry a real man.'
This got all sorts of (unwanted) attention.

'What do you mean?' 'How will you tell?'
I could not answer but stuck to my guns.
The teacher passed this on to my parents,
who would drill me about it all the time.

So, in the family it became a game.
Whenever a new man would be in our house,
my Mother would say 'Is that a REAL man?'
tongue in cheek, with a smile.

I would go all serious, study him, listen
to him, then tug at her skirt and say,
'Yes, he is a real man' or, more often,
'No, he is not a real man' with a really
sad face.

At first it was very funny, but I was
always serious. As time went by, everyone
would ask me to pronounce yay or nay.

We would be at weddings, funerals, church
and someone would always nudge me, point
to someone and ask.

I always felt I was right, although there
were a few times I had to change my opinion.

It is something unique about each fellow, and
to try to define it, it was that whoever,
whatever they were, they were themselves, and
(though I hate to use the word confident) they
were conficent that, that was enough.

Perhaps it is that they meet or exceed their
own standards, as opposed to anyone else's.

They could be silent, or a jabberer, still it
always showed to me.

I had an uncle, wee bitty man, shorter than me,
who, when he entered a room, immediately commanded it.
I used to just watch him, to see what he did.
He did nothing..he just..was.

A direct look at you, very intense, it made one feel
so special..a killer smile, his look was like..
a blessing, best I can describe it.

A real man.


:thumbsup:

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