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Topic: The American Holocaust
willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/08/12 02:31 PM
Fairican and all in the NOI hates whitey and Jews. Now Messicans. Cuz dey takin' away the benis ub de' special peeps. What's fairicans garbage doing here? The US Gubaments what did all the indian killin'. No way they kilt how many millions did the ferigner say in his OP? However, before Columbus, BTW, Columbus, how many he waste? Back to the indian. They did the same thing all other cultures did, Raid, rob, make slaves, kill, rape and maim. Miss the old days. Don't ya'll? Ain't like they's innocent. They jest got buffaloed.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Mon 10/08/12 03:08 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME. Personal attitude has nothing to do with it. If you falsely post someone else's text as your own, you are either intellectually dishonest and/or just intellectually deficient and dishonest. In either case, you violate the basic rules of written debate.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 10/08/12 03:09 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME. Personal attitude has nothing to do with it. If you falsely post someone else's text as your own, you are either intellectually dishonest and/or just intellectually deficient and dishonest. In either case, you violate the basic rules of written debate. such doom and gloom isnt it also possible that one has pushed post too quickly, or just forgotten to post a link?

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 03:50 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME. Personal attitude has nothing to do with it. If you falsely post someone else's text as your own, you are either intellectually dishonest and/or just intellectually deficient and dishonest. In either case, you violate the basic rules of written debate. First and foremost a debate requires two or more participants, I never, ever debate, especially on a datesite forum. I simply stated historical facts. Links are for convincing those who deny, dont know or refuse to achknowledge. Considering im not in a debate, what links? Im already aware of history. As for the information brought foward by the NOI, thats common knowledge known by those who have studied. As for the personal reference I made, it was warrented considering his ignoring facts by refering to the otherwise. Perhaps you can council him being you found it necessary to refer in a conversation where you had nothing to do with, besides this topic is about The American Holocaust, not where one gets the facts, but whether they are facts, nothing else is relevent. Take it, or let it alone.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48912	Mon 10/08/12 03:51 PM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/08/12 03:54 PM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s. Thank you. If they all would have been exterminated, yours truly would not exist today, spreadin' all the love.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48912	Mon 10/08/12 04:04 PM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s. Thank you. If they all would have been exterminated, yours truly would not exist today, spreadin' all the love. Allegedly, I had an ancestor who journeyed on the Trail of Tears. I can't prove it though. Not all Cherokees agreed to be on the Dawes Rolls. I'm a bit sensitive when it comes to the way that Native Americans are treated, because I grew up in northeastern Oklahoma.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 04:04 PM
Indians held slaves. Only as many as they could afford to feed. Used 'em for labor, sex, trading, target practice and bribery. So, the OP is defending slave traders and holocaust perpetrators as they killed each other off to a drastic extreme as well the american indian fought among themselves and held their captives as slaves and sexual partners not to mention the practicing of torture and murder of their captives but hey what do i know It is and was quite common to undermine the victims of genocide or other crimes by saying things like this. Its simular to a rapist blaming his victim for dressing inapproprately that caused him to rape. The Europeans often refered to the Native Americans as "savages" and "pagans" who were primitive who thereby required intervention and being Christianized so as to civilized them. This was the premise used to justify the all out genocidal program used to rob them of the land. The tactics used were old tecqniques used in Europe during the dark ages. Nothing the Native were justified inhumane actions carried out for greed. Tha rapist is always the criminal thereby the true savage, regardless what clothing the victim wears.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/08/12 04:13 PM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s. Thank you. If they all would have been exterminated, yours truly would not exist today, spreadin' all the love. Allegedly, I had an ancestor who journeyed on the Trail of Tears. I can't prove it though. Not all Cherokees agreed to be on the Dawes Rolls. I'm a bit sensitive when it comes to the way that Native Americans are treated, because I grew up in northeastern Oklahoma. My great-great grandma's parents hid out in the swamps where DIberville, Ms is now. She was Choctaw and my great-great grandpa was German.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 10/08/12 05:02 PM
Why is it that we never hear of this holocaust. 100 Million 100 million killed? your an idiot if yo0u believe that...

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48912	Mon 10/08/12 05:08 PM
Why is it that we never hear of this holocaust. 100 Million 100 million killed? your an idiot if yo0u believe that... Yeah. The claim of 100 million is likely an exaggeration.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 10/08/12 05:14 PM
Why is it that we never hear of this holocaust. 100 Million 100 million killed? your an idiot if yo0u believe that... Yeah. The claim of 100 million is likely an exaggeration. maybe 1000 different tribes with a few hundred each? that would be my estimate...

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 10/08/12 05:28 PM
Why is it that we never hear of this holocaust. 100 Million 100 million killed? your an idiot if yo0u believe that... Yeah. The claim of 100 million is likely an exaggeration. maybe 1000 different tribes with a few hundred each? that would be my estimate... Now we know not to get American history lessons from Ireland.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 10/08/12 05:39 PM
Why is it that we never hear of this holocaust. 100 Million 100 million killed? your an idiot if yo0u believe that... Yeah. The claim of 100 million is likely an exaggeration. maybe 1000 different tribes with a few hundred each? that would be my estimate... Now we know not to get American history lessons from Ireland.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Mon 10/08/12 05:53 PM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME. Personal attitude has nothing to do with it. If you falsely post someone else's text as your own, you are either intellectually dishonest and/or just intellectually deficient and dishonest. In either case, you violate the basic rules of written debate. such doom and gloom isnt it also possible that one has pushed post too quickly, or just forgotten to post a link? Not when it happens repeatedly and attitude is given when it is brought up.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Mon 10/08/12 06:14 PM
Fairican and all in the NOI hates whitey and Jews. Now Messicans. Cuz dey takin' away the benis ub de' special peeps. What's fairicans garbage doing here? The US Gubaments what did all the indian killin'. No way they kilt how many millions did the ferigner say in his OP? However, before Columbus, BTW, Columbus, how many he waste? Back to the indian. They did the same thing all other cultures did, Raid, rob, make slaves, kill, rape and maim. Miss the old days. Don't ya'll? Ain't like they's innocent. They jest got buffaloed. METALWING, PERHAPS THE ABOVE IS MORE TO YOUR LIKING.

mightymoe Joined Sun 11/19/06 Posts: 37362	Mon 10/08/12 09:01 PM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s. if we are using the word"holocaust", seems like it would also describe what the muslims are doing to every other religion around the world...

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Tue 10/09/12 02:09 AM
If you are going to use the word holocaust to describe any attempt to eradicate an entire culture, then the word is appropriate when discussing what was done to Native Americans during the 1800s. if we are using the word"holocaust", seems like it would also describe what the muslims are doing to every other religion around the world... nonsence.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Tue 10/09/12 04:24 AM
Call it Holocaust or genocide, but right from the very start the European settlers were begging their British king to destroy the "savages" faster then he already was. It was one of the reasons they listed in their Declaration of Independence that caused them to want to seperate from England. Merchants, many of them Jewish, supplied the British, French and American armies ETHNICALLY CLEANSE the indiginous Native Americans from their ancient lands. Once the bloody deed was done and the murderous armies retreated, it was those merchants who surveyed and divided the land into lots and began selling them to white settlers. This land "value" was created out of thin air and these properties and their rights were then protected by the US goverment. Legendary "frontiersmen" like Danial Boone were actually surveyers in the employ of these merchants, and some of Boones reciepts are actually in yiddish. Massacres netted white settlers just that, MASS ACRES of free land. In harmony with the massacres were the dreadfull concoctions of deceases that reduced the natives to insignificant numbers. The 100 million is a number hard to confirm, however the millions stem from the North, central, South America, the Caribean and Canada. Call it Holocaust, or genocide, it does nt matter, if Colombus has a holiday, imagin the uproar if Hitler had one. No one is indigenous to north america. And you copied and pasted this from a NOI supporting site without giving it credit.. You seem to have a habit of using someones content and passing it off as your own.. http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/article_7867.shtml If you can't articulate your own thoughts then don't post someones without linking to the site.. genocide is genocide, what moron needs a link to know common American history? You have a habit of refuting historical facts with nothing. You dont need a link, what you need is a refresher course in American history, simple as that. I need not provide anything no more then you have, the facts of history are facts, take it, or let it alone. KEEP YOUR PERSONAL ATTITUDE AT HOME. Personal attitude has nothing to do with it. If you falsely post someone else's text as your own, you are either intellectually dishonest and/or just intellectually deficient and dishonest. In either case, you violate the basic rules of written debate. First and foremost a debate requires two or more participants, I never, ever debate, especially on a datesite forum. I simply stated historical facts. Links are for convincing those who deny, dont know or refuse to achknowledge. Considering im not in a debate, what links? Im already aware of history. As for the information brought foward by the NOI, thats common knowledge known by those who have studied. As for the personal reference I made, it was warrented considering his ignoring facts by refering to the otherwise. Perhaps you can council him being you found it necessary to refer in a conversation where you had nothing to do with, besides this topic is about The American Holocaust, not where one gets the facts, but whether they are facts, nothing else is relevent. Take it, or let it alone. You are debating now, believe it or not. If you read the site's instructions to the left of the screen at the beginning of the topics, you will see the debate rules for posting (you don't get to make up the rules). There are no private conversations, these are public forums. If you can't follow the site rules, perhaps you should post someplace else. In a debate, where you get your "facts" is relevant.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Tue 10/09/12 05:24 AM
Fairican and all in the NOI hates whitey and Jews. Now Messicans. Cuz dey takin' away the benis ub de' special peeps. What's fairicans garbage doing here? The US Gubaments what did all the indian killin'. No way they kilt how many millions did the ferigner say in his OP? However, before Columbus, BTW, Columbus, how many he waste? Back to the indian. They did the same thing all other cultures did, Raid, rob, make slaves, kill, rape and maim. Miss the old days. Don't ya'll? Ain't like they's innocent. They jest got buffaloed. METALWING, PERHAPS THE ABOVE IS MORE TO YOUR LIKING. Ain't gots ta' yell. Thanks fer da' bump!!