Duke may have more power politically, given he was actually VOTED INTO a political position of authority,,,

racist tendencies/warning signs



1.Consider your judgments of what people wear, their hairstyles, headscarves, etc. Are these thoughts negative or justified?


2
Gauge your fear of being around people who are not of the same race as you.


3
Note the FREQUENCY of your racial slurs and jokes.


4
Think about your upbringing. Are your parents racist or extremely prejudiced? Many racists learned their behavior in childhood from the influence of relatives.


5
Consider the following questions:

Do you think of all people of any particular race act in the same way?

Do you always refer to people's race in your description of them or do you deliberately leave out the obvious so as not to offend?

Do you ascribe certain negative behaviors to people of certain races and insist that only they do this?

Do you think all people of a particular race LOOK ALIKE?

Do you dislike other races, or do you just love your own?

you believe Obama was selected to manage white affairs?

I believe he was elected because he was considered the best candidate by the most electoral votes, like any other

so no, I dont believe he was 'selected' to manage anyones affairs

I do think, it is those who surround him that make the decisions about how much he can actually accomplish (or not), and for whom

I actually agree with farrakhan on that one..

Getting Obama elected shored up the power base for the white liberal elite for another generation or so..

my eyes are popping out of my head. nevertheless I will share my memories of the panthers, and I have some really good ones. I have never been afraid to call anything what it is so u guys know you'll get it straight from me, anyway....

I am nothing if not fair. I think some fairness needs to be inserted here. I also don't understand why a southern gent would be so rude to ms harmony. I have never met a man from Tennessee, Ky, Va who was anything but a gentleman, but my hair is standing on end in here tonight, I must say....

Louis Farakhan did not start the Nation of Islam. It started by the american, Rev. Elijah Muhammad who converted on a trip to northern africa. (He took malcolm with him but not sure if they were both there on the reverend's first trip). When he returned he formed self esteem classes for Black Youth via the Black Panther Party and began his organization to coalesce with other civil rights groups in the 1960s. He was more radical than the sclc and the naacp and the Rev Martin Luther King. he advocated violent overthrown of white institutions in America where and IF that became necessary. Many of the more violent inner city riots of the 60s (Watts for example) are attributed to Panther/Muslim activity.

Not all of his followers agreed with him and some were even more extreme. But the Black Panther Party, the political arm, is strictly an american phenomenon as are Black Muslims. well known members and black muslims included Malcolm X (who often dated white BTW), Bobby Seale (known from the Chicago 7) as was Angela Davis

The last I heard/read the panthers have an agricultural project for self sufficiency in the middle west somewhere - a cooperative collective farm and as far as I could tell, an educational farm...the panthers were always huge on 2 things - 1. education and 2. staying away from the white man's gifts - drugs alcohol crime. It was their belief that white society made it easy for blacks to be kept down by keeping them drugged up and dependent. ( I am not saying I agree but that was the talk on the street at the time) they are communist /socialistic (in my assessment - IDK what they might say about that)

the new black panthers are far more vulgar in their speech, the panthers of yesteryear were concerned with protecting their communities which were at the time subject to crooked police and crooked political practice


the NOI, to my knowledge, has never been about violence,, beyond the 'whatever means necessary' promise of fighting force with force

they are seperatist in isolating their concerns to issues which affect 'black people', much like NOW is sepeartist in isolating their concerns to issues which affect 'women'

Farrakhan, in all his years of living, has changed and grown as much as should be expected of any man too

he has held fast to some of his beliefs, and others have evolved into something else

I have up til this point in time (and things can always change) sensed a loyalty and love and pain come from him that I feel is understandable for the times he lived through, he has the wisdom that most elderly people gain throughout life

he also has some of the outdated beliefs that many elderly have,,,,


he is a wise old man, even in the midst of the pain or what others call 'hate' that has developed inside of him

Wasn't Wallace Dodd Ford aka Wallace Fard Muhammad a white man?

Being something of an old duck myself, I feel I've acquired some of the wisdom that comes with age. (The opinions of others may differ.)

I found as I aged, that I identified less with my "race" than with my chronological compadres. It seems the mindset universalizes as we age. When we are young, we tend to be extremely (sometimes) racist, idealistic know-it-alls. As we age, we come to learn just how much we didn't know, and a form of understanding of all "races" & creeds sets in. We tend to lose many of our prejudices, recognizing them for the really trivial differences they were.

Rage might still be there, but somewhere along the line it stops being rage against some other group and transfers into a rage against the injustice of man's inhumanity to man.

I don't know much about Farrakhan, but if he's about my age, I think I can understand his mindset. He probably doesn't really hate white people, or non-muslims anymore (if he ever really did in the first place), though he no doubt still works to advance the acceptance of black people, muslims in particular.

He may have done some rotten things in is past that he sorely regrets now and wishes he never did…I know I have and I do and I wish I hadn't. But whatever they were if there were any at all, it has, I'm sure, been incorporated into his learning and now forms a better part of him if he has tried to atone for his wrongs.

He knows by now that he doesn't hate whites, only the things many of them do to the people he more closely identifies with. Despising the injustice of it, he no doubt is very vocal, perhaps even almost militant, but his motivation is no longer to advance any particular cause so much as to balance the scales of justice as he sees them tipped.

Like many people our age, he wishes others would realize that there really is only one race on the planet and bemoans the fact that we are too ignorant and mired in hate to see that simple fact because we always focus on the differences that separate us more than the commonalities that bind and unite everyone, everywhere as a single family of some seven billion.

I don't know how much you know about ducks, but we really don't act as cute as we look. Basically, we are a grumpy bunch who can hardly get along with each other, let alone different bird species. I was once a very racist duck and used to torment the geese in the pond because I didn't want those funny looking, fat, goose-necked honkers in my pond reducing the property values. Being the rather fowl-mouthed, fowl-tempered bird that I am, they didn't mess with me much, but that didn't stop my buddies & me from going out goose-gawkin' on a Saturday night. The only thing that stopped us was when the geese all flocked together like birds of a feather and stood up to us ducks by flapping right up and honking us dizzy just two inches from our beaks.

Suddenly goose-gawkin' wasn't so much fun anymore. Later on, some of us ducks even kinda made up with the geese & quit squawking about them sharing our pond. I even made friends with some of them. Turns out they really weren't such bad eggs after all. In the end, we realized we were all avians & not really all that different from one another, except that geese still smell & walk funny compared to us ducks, but what the hell…they're birds, and ALL us birds gotta stick together. We share the same pond & have to form a united front against the human game-bird hunters and their banking cronies. We do that much more effectively, when we don't let our differences divide us.

Why can't humans learn the lessons we did? Are our beliefs that "outdated"?

no, mixed british and polynesian




depending upon his hairstyle, could have been perceived as middle eastern, black, or white,,,,most likely

I could tend to agree with you on a couple of points.

I don't see Eugene being regretful of wanting Jews and Whites dead.
Does not being regretful means owning your wrongs, admitting them, atoning and asking forgiveness?

Eugene has done any of those things? I see him as being of the same caliber of racist as David Duke.

Elijah Robert Poole aka Elijah Muhammad, suspected of having X wasted.

Elijah Muhammad did not create the Nation of Islam but he built it on a number of principles. Among them: Islam is the true religion, "knowledge of self" is vital, "doing for self" is necessary, the black man is supreme and the white man is "the devil."

Upon meeting Fard;

"I am the Supreme Ruler of the Universe"

When Elijah Muhammad met Master Fard, he asked, "Who are you?"

Master Fard replied, "I am the Supreme Ruler of the Universe."

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Mother ship? Did Poole die or did he get pulled up by that mother ship that was allegedly designed to bring down the White man's world?

I've found the fight against segregation has actually seemed to create its own bubble of segregation.

Why does it always have to be "Us against them?"

...Because we never want to admit it's OUR fault; it HAS to be theirs.

If just once in our miserable lives we could really look at ourselves and see what base, rotten, horrible creatures we really are, and assign the blame where it's properly due, we'd probably all blow our own brains out!...or change into something better...

I think integration was the right intention by the wrong means,,,it wasnt JUST the proximity that needed to change but the CULTURE,,,,,

much like the womens movement

and with ending indentured servitude for those non blacks who were subject to it

what happened is the 'oppressed' fought like hell for 'equality, by trying to be more like the 'oppressor' , instead of fighting for the oppressor to see and place equal value on them just the way they WERE



there are many many places in life where a person is just a person,, but there is STILL the implicit mindset that categorizes(which is natural) people by their gender, or race, or social status

because race was for so long tied to social status,,it will be just as long before the system that made it that way is actually undone

because the system only flourished due to the CULTURE, and the underlying CULTURE is still there in all the places which hold POWER and authority to make change,,,

I dont think it 'always' is, but it is a natural expectation in a world with billions of people fighting for their survival, that people form bonds and groups,,,,,

BINGO!…They "became" the enemy they fought. How silly to fight fire with fire…everybody knows it's more properly fought with water! If we want to end war, we have to fight peacefully (and carry a big stick for protection "just in case"). Even better is to love your enemy and try to each an agreement.

Folks like Eugene, Sharpton, Shabitch want to maintain their separatist attitudes.

For the op. A half truth is the same as a lie. Denying Eugene is a separatist racist is a lie.

Farrakhan is not a seperatrist, anymore than women fighting for womens rights are automatically seperatist

he is , by definition of being concerned with his 'race',, a racist

much of what he said is true, there was no halves or wholes,,,,