Topic: A bloody weekend in Chicago
msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 06:52 AM



The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased





You didn't watch the video and you are just making up reasons it isn't valid. Your math ignores percentages.


I watched the first ten minutes and recognize the same tired statistics being repeated from sources like 'color of crime', which are filled with flawed statistics

like those used in bell curve days, when black chidlren didnt have access to equal education, to try to imply that intelligence was purely or mostly a 'genetic' trait,,,,


its shady statistics, prime example of the well known adage 'figures dont lie but liars figure',,,,,people can manipulate statistics in any number of ways, and its obvious in the first ten minutes of this video that this person just collected 'evidence' from several of thease manipulators to try to appear like an academic and scientific contributor,, instead of just a biased bigot,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 06:54 AM



The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.



continue to ignore the evidence and believe in the inferior immoral negro,,, obviously no getting through to those who are convinced of their moral and genetic superiority,,,,

InvictusV's photo
Wed 04/17/13 07:32 AM




The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased





You didn't watch the video and you are just making up reasons it isn't valid. Your math ignores percentages.


I watched the first ten minutes and recognize the same tired statistics being repeated from sources like 'color of crime', which are filled with flawed statistics

like those used in bell curve days, when black chidlren didnt have access to equal education, to try to imply that intelligence was purely or mostly a 'genetic' trait,,,,


its shady statistics, prime example of the well known adage 'figures dont lie but liars figure',,,,,people can manipulate statistics in any number of ways, and its obvious in the first ten minutes of this video that this person just collected 'evidence' from several of thease manipulators to try to appear like an academic and scientific contributor,, instead of just a biased bigot,,,,



who do you think developed the theories and ideas behind the bell curve?

the same people you support politically..

imagine that..


mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:31 AM



The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:35 AM





The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased





You didn't watch the video and you are just making up reasons it isn't valid. Your math ignores percentages.


I watched the first ten minutes and recognize the same tired statistics being repeated from sources like 'color of crime', which are filled with flawed statistics

like those used in bell curve days, when black chidlren didnt have access to equal education, to try to imply that intelligence was purely or mostly a 'genetic' trait,,,,


its shady statistics, prime example of the well known adage 'figures dont lie but liars figure',,,,,people can manipulate statistics in any number of ways, and its obvious in the first ten minutes of this video that this person just collected 'evidence' from several of thease manipulators to try to appear like an academic and scientific contributor,, instead of just a biased bigot,,,,



who do you think developed the theories and ideas behind the bell curve?

the same people you support politically..

imagine that..




most the people I support politically would have been children or not even born when bell curve was written,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:35 AM





The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased





You didn't watch the video and you are just making up reasons it isn't valid. Your math ignores percentages.


I watched the first ten minutes and recognize the same tired statistics being repeated from sources like 'color of crime', which are filled with flawed statistics

like those used in bell curve days, when black chidlren didnt have access to equal education, to try to imply that intelligence was purely or mostly a 'genetic' trait,,,,


its shady statistics, prime example of the well known adage 'figures dont lie but liars figure',,,,,people can manipulate statistics in any number of ways, and its obvious in the first ten minutes of this video that this person just collected 'evidence' from several of thease manipulators to try to appear like an academic and scientific contributor,, instead of just a biased bigot,,,,



who do you think developed the theories and ideas behind the bell curve?

the same people you support politically..

imagine that..




most the people I support politically would have been children or not even born when bell curve was written,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:36 AM
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msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:37 AM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 04/17/13 08:38 AM




The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,


mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:50 AM
Edited by mightymoe on Wed 04/17/13 08:54 AM





The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 08:57 AM






The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:09 AM







The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:11 AM








The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,


mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:18 AM









The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:23 AM










The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...


the history of slavery in AMERICA Is relative to crime in america, what happened in other countries is a sidebar to the point

asians dont have the history of being enslaved and oppressed LEGALLY in america that blacks do, asians that come here now, do so with sponsorship and above average skills which often keep t hem out of the impoverished class, asians that are in the impoverished class are likewise more likely to be committing crimes than those who are not

believe IM wrong, thats cool, but the evidence stands out like a sore thumb, some choose to ignore it for some cliehe moralist argument, and some choose to look at it and try to figure on ways to make it better,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:33 AM











The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...


the history of slavery in AMERICA Is relative to crime in america, what happened in other countries is a sidebar to the point

asians dont have the history of being enslaved and oppressed LEGALLY in america that blacks do, asians that come here now, do so with sponsorship and above average skills which often keep t hem out of the impoverished class, asians that are in the impoverished class are likewise more likely to be committing crimes than those who are not

believe IM wrong, thats cool, but the evidence stands out like a sore thumb, some choose to ignore it for some cliehe moralist argument, and some choose to look at it and try to figure on ways to make it better,,,,



maybe you should read up about asian history here... but anyway, that was 200 years ago, and we are still hearing the aftereffects of it...i'm not saying you are right or wrong, but IMO there's way more to it than just poverty... your right, there is a correlation, but i've been at/on poverty levels, and know many who are, and haven't killed/raped anyone...

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:39 AM











The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...


the history of slavery in AMERICA Is relative to crime in america, what happened in other countries is a sidebar to the point

asians dont have the history of being enslaved and oppressed LEGALLY in america that blacks do, asians that come here now, do so with sponsorship and above average skills which often keep t hem out of the impoverished class, asians that are in the impoverished class are likewise more likely to be committing crimes than those who are not

believe IM wrong, thats cool, but the evidence stands out like a sore thumb, some choose to ignore it for some cliehe moralist argument, and some choose to look at it and try to figure on ways to make it better,,,,
in that case we here in Europe ought to maim,slash,Kill,Rape and Burn like hell,having been to a big percentage Chattel of the Feudal Lords!

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:45 AM












The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...


the history of slavery in AMERICA Is relative to crime in america, what happened in other countries is a sidebar to the point

asians dont have the history of being enslaved and oppressed LEGALLY in america that blacks do, asians that come here now, do so with sponsorship and above average skills which often keep t hem out of the impoverished class, asians that are in the impoverished class are likewise more likely to be committing crimes than those who are not

believe IM wrong, thats cool, but the evidence stands out like a sore thumb, some choose to ignore it for some cliehe moralist argument, and some choose to look at it and try to figure on ways to make it better,,,,



maybe you should read up about asian history here... but anyway, that was 200 years ago, and we are still hearing the aftereffects of it...i'm not saying you are right or wrong, but IMO there's way more to it than just poverty... your right, there is a correlation, but i've been at/on poverty levels, and know many who are, and haven't killed/raped anyone...



I know asians werent enslaved a couple centuries, and subject to JIM CROW unequal segregation up until just forty years ago,,,,,

its a different history, completely


and there is more to it than poverty, just like obesity has more to it than just diet, but diet contributes SIGNIFICANTLY to the chances one will become obese,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:47 AM












The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.


i think it's more of a "blame whitey" type thing... they use it as an excuse to act like however they want, then say it's all the white mans fault...



its not a blame whitey thing for me as I have not mentioned anything about what I think about white peoples morals or culture,,,etc,,,,

in fact, Im almost sure that most times race is introduced in these threads it is not a black person doing it

it is about oppression and poverty, and even removing black and white from the issue,, if you look at countries where black and white population are minimal,, you will find those groups who have suffered the most oppression in the country's history, will be the ones who have the greatest amount of poverty, the least amount of wealth, and the most violent crime,,,,




http://worldnews.about.com/od/crime/tp/Top-Murder-Rates-In-The-World.htm

if you notice, the one word that seems to be repeated is gangs... not poverty...

and only one predominately white country, south africa...



notice how information about 'armed violence' (also repeated as 'gangs') has significant mention of economic conditions and poverty?


people still have a choice... i guess what your saying is that no one can be a good citizen while in poverty? thats the excuse for murder and rape? i know your smarter than that... poverty doesn't lead to crime, bad decisions lead to crime...



no more than I would say that noone eating cake can avoid becoming obese

for maybe the fifth time, Im pointing out that poverty creates an environment that is more likely to NURTURE criminal / desperate behavior,,,




IMO, your wrong... criminals create there own environment...excuses are excuses, and they all seem to have one... oh poor me, the world hates me and i'm poor... i'll go rob, kill and rape because the world is unfair... the white man is holding me back, blah, blah, blah... not just blacks, but from all the non whites, except asians... and the white man used them as slaves too, but they seemed to have gotten over it...


the history of slavery in AMERICA Is relative to crime in america, what happened in other countries is a sidebar to the point

asians dont have the history of being enslaved and oppressed LEGALLY in america that blacks do, asians that come here now, do so with sponsorship and above average skills which often keep t hem out of the impoverished class, asians that are in the impoverished class are likewise more likely to be committing crimes than those who are not

believe IM wrong, thats cool, but the evidence stands out like a sore thumb, some choose to ignore it for some cliehe moralist argument, and some choose to look at it and try to figure on ways to make it better,,,,
in that case we here in Europe ought to maim,slash,Kill,Rape and Burn like hell,having been to a big percentage Chattel of the Feudal Lords!



europe is a continent,, pick a country , read the history of the most oppressed class there, and you will see similar trends in their rate of poverty, wealth, and violent crime,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Wed 04/17/13 09:48 AM

Four Dead, At Least 22 Wounded in Weekend Shootings

Updated April 15, 2013 9:30am
April 13, 2013 8:29am | By DNAinfo Staff






CHICAGO — A bloody weekend in Chicago left at least 22 people shot and four dead in incidents from Friday afternoon through Sunday evening.

On Sunday afternoon, five people were shot, including a 17-year-old boy, who was wounded in the 1500 block of South Millard Avenue. He was taken in critical condition to Mount Sinai Hospital. Three people were critically wounded in a shooting in Grand Crossing, and another in the Oakland neighborhood.

At least six people were shot between Saturday and Sunday morning.

A 28-year-old man, identified as Larry Randle, of the 1200 block of West 97th Street, was killed near his home about 1 p.m. Saturday, Chicago Police said.

Police said Randle was walking when a light-colored vehicle pulled up, and two men got out and fired shots, hitting him in the back. Randle was taken to Little Company of Mary Hospital in Evergreen Park in critical condition and pronounced dead at 1:35 p.m., according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's Office.

A 19-year-old man was shot in the right leg about 2:25 a.m. Sunday as he stood in an alley in the 1000 block of North Monticello Avenue in West Humboldt Park, Officer John Mirabelli, a Chicago Police spokesman said said. He was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital.

Further south, a man was shot in the leg about 2:50 a.m. near West 51st Street and South Central Avenue in Garfield Ridge, Mirabelli said. That victim was taken to an unknown hospital while a second person, whose age and gender were unknown, showed up at Holy Cross Hospital with an arm wound, Mirabelli said.

A 22-year-old man walked to Mount Sinai Hospital with a gunshot wound to the hand after a shooting near Cicero Avenue and Madison Street in Austin about 4:30 a.m. Sunday, Mirabelli said.

A man was found shot at a scene after reports of gunfire in the 5700 block of West Grand Avenue in Belmont Cragin about 5:10 a.m. Sunday, Mirabelli said. That victim is in stable condition, though it is unknown to which hospital he was sent.

Those shootings followed shootings citywide Friday night and early Saturday morning that tallied nine victims, including one shot by police. Three of those shot died.
Bloody April Weekend in Chicago

At least 22 people were wounded, and four were killed, in shootings across the city's Northwest, West and South sides last weekend, police said.
(DNAinfo/Quinn Ford)

A 17-year-old standing in an alley in the 900 block of West 95th Street in Brainerd was shot in his upper left chest about 9:15 p.m. Saturday, Mirabelli said.

In Chatham, Donte J. Kenney, 26, has been charged with aggravated assault of a police officer in connection with a Saturday morning shooting in which he was sent to Christ Hospital with non life-threatening injuries.

About 1 a.m. Saturday, officers on patrol smelled marijuana and saw Kenney standing at the mouth of an alley in the 8500 block of South Rhodes Avenue, according to a police statement and Pat Camden, spokesman for the Fraternal Order of Police.

When the officers got out of their squad car to investigate, Kenney ran down the alley and into the backyard of a nearby residence. When the officers followed him into the backyard, he pointed a weapon in their direction, prompting one of the officers to shoot him, according to police.

Police recovered a gun at the scene, Camden said.

About two hours earlier, a man was shot and killed in South Chicago, authorities said, after fighting with another man.

The two began fighting outdoors in the 8700 block of South Burley Avenue at about 11:10 p.m. Friday, and the 34-year-old man was shot repeatedly in the chest, according to Officer Amina Greer, a police spokeswoman.

The slain man, later identified as Kevin Sanders, was taken to Advocate Trinity Hospital where he was pronounced dead at midnight, according to the morgue.

The man who killed Sanders was shot in the leg during the altercation and was taken to Trinity Hospital, Greer said. He is in custody, Greer said.

Hours later, another man was shot to death in the Humboldt Park neighborhood, police said.

About 2:45 a.m. Saturday, a 19-year-old man was standing with two friends on a sidewalk in the 3300 block of West Beach Avenue when two men emerged from a nearby gangway and opened fire on the group, Greer said.

The 19-year-old, identified as Jonathan Santiago of the 900 block of North Homan Avenue, was shot in the chest and was found unresponsive on the scene when police arrived. Police have deemed a shooting a homicide, Greer said.

About the same time as the Humboldt Park shooting, three people were shot on the city's Northwest Side.

Two men and a woman were shot while in a car stopped at a red light in the 4200 block of West Irving Park Road. A light sedan pulled up next to them, a man got out and began firing, Greer said.

Miguel Cancel, 19, of the 5500 block of North Parkside Avenue, was shot in the head and the right shoulder and later died of his injuries at Stroger Hospital.

A 22-year-old man who was shot in both thighs was stable at Stroger Hospital as of early Saturday morning, Greer said.

The third person in the car, a 19-year-old woman, was shot in the right arm and taken to Norwegian American Hospital, where her condition stabilized, Greer said.

Police said two of the people shot are documented gang members, and the shooting appears to be gang-motivated.

Just before 3 a.m. Saturday, a man was shot in the 1600 block of North Humboldt Boulevard, police said. The man was shot in the lower left hip and taken to St. Mary Medical Center, according to Officer Michael Sullivan, a police spokesman.

Sullivan said the man's condition had stabilized early Saturday.

A 31-year-old man was in stable condition at Stroger Hospital after being shot in the back about 3:35 a.m. Saturday in Auburn Gresham. He was standing in the 8000 block of South Union Avenue when another man approached him and began firing shots, police spokeswoman Greer said.

At about 2 p.m. Friday afternoon, three people walked into the University of Chicago Hospital with gunshot wounds.

With the exception of Sanders' death, no one was in custody in connection with any of the shootings, police said.

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130413/chicago-citywide/9-shot-2-fatally-overnight-friday

Because Guncontrol works so great in Chi-Town!



willing2's photo
Wed 04/17/13 03:17 PM




The reality is hard for many to swallow.

Why blacks have high crime rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c

The factors are 70% genetic. Environment is only 30%.

Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of whites.

This video is science, not racism.



since when is 149 8 times that of 42?


any mention of h ow many times more likely blacks are to be in impoverished environments?


the video is not science its sloppy statistics used to prove a bias,,,,there is nothing 'genetic' about the disparity or we wouldnt see it taper off as the income and wealth levels increased




Poor, impoverished, oppressed, etc., etc., etc.

Always excusing and justifying criminal, ghetto behavior.

There are many honorable, hard working negros that, if they saw how excuses were puked out, would wretch at the ghetto, gibmedat attitude.

Disgusting. According to some, the criminal has no choice but to kill, rob rape and maim. Pure nonsense.



continue to ignore the evidence and believe in the inferior immoral negro,,, obviously no getting through to those who are convinced of their moral and genetic superiority,,,,

I am poor. I work. I live below the standard of non-working unemployment extension hos and I can still manage to not rape, rob or murder folks just cuz I ain't gots.

Again. There are many poverty level negros who choose not to be criminals. Bravo to them.

There isn't one slanted stat that will convince me or most of the sane Americans that criminals are the victim.

That is stupid liberal idiotology.