Topic: Refreshing
msharmony's photo
Thu 06/27/13 05:14 PM


I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel.

Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar.
Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug
Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded.
Does a recording exist?
I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again.
Any bets?

BTW
Link was overtly racist.


FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol)

FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun

FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one

I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 06/27/13 06:24 PM



I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel.

Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar.
Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug
Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded.
Does a recording exist?
I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again.
Any bets?

BTW
Link was overtly racist.


FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol)

FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun

FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one

I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,,


huh Privileged? Who is privileged?

Chazster's photo
Thu 06/27/13 06:37 PM
Take away the racial undertone and you have nothing left. In fact I wouldnt even call it an undertone. It wasn't subtle in the least. It was "white people wont understand this girl". They basically said that the whole time. It wasn't an undertone.

Dodo_David's photo
Thu 06/27/13 06:53 PM

Take away the racial undertone and you have nothing left. In fact I wouldnt even call it an undertone. It wasn't subtle in the least. It was "white people wont understand this girl". They basically said that the whole time. It wasn't an undertone.


Yeah, the author of that commentary doesn't explain why it is possible for her to understand the prosecution's star witness but not the jury members, who are as white as the author.

msharmony's photo
Thu 06/27/13 08:18 PM




I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel.

Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar.
Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug
Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded.
Does a recording exist?
I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again.
Any bets?

BTW
Link was overtly racist.


FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol)

FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun

FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one

I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,,


huh Privileged? Who is privileged?



the one who wasnt 'ghetto' ,,

the one who grew up with a FLORIDA MAGISTRATE JUDGE for a father, attended private catholic school for his youthful years, and avoided any real jail time and carried a gun even after accusation of physical assault in his home, at his job AND Against an officer,


privileged,, doesnt often happen to those 'ghetto' folks, who people want to lock up the minute they think they didnt keep running away from them like a good boy,,,but actually stopped running at some point to ask a simple question,,,,

msharmony's photo
Thu 06/27/13 08:20 PM


Take away the racial undertone and you have nothing left. In fact I wouldnt even call it an undertone. It wasn't subtle in the least. It was "white people wont understand this girl". They basically said that the whole time. It wasn't an undertone.


Yeah, the author of that commentary doesn't explain why it is possible for her to understand the prosecution's star witness but not the jury members, who are as white as the author.


I doubt she knows, as I could say most black people I know do X,,,even though I dont

doesnt mean I Can explain why there is the difference,,

willing2's photo
Thu 06/27/13 08:33 PM
Any doubt ghetto-ho was busted lying?

TBRich's photo
Thu 06/27/13 08:34 PM
I remember working in Philly and trying to read reports and asking my secretary what "calling me out my name" meant, she said the guy must have called her out her name.

msharmony's photo
Thu 06/27/13 10:08 PM

Any doubt ghetto-ho was busted lying?


no doubt the woman didn't want to have to testify and be subject to ignorant judgement and namecalling because of her speech

no doubt at all she LIED to avoid this very type of stereotyping and ridiculing

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/27/13 11:58 PM

Aside from the racial undertone


('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people')

I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope


http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog







and african american can be replaced with

some americans as well

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/28/13 12:31 AM


Aside from the racial undertone


('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people')

I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope


http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog







and african american can be replaced with

some americans as well


true

willing2's photo
Fri 06/28/13 06:13 AM
She lies and gets defended? grumble laugh
laugh

Let's say for a second ghetto-ho didn't lie her jazz off . Since when does hearsay hold water?

willing2's photo
Fri 06/28/13 06:29 AM

She lies and gets defended? grumble laugh
laugh

Let's say for a second ghetto-ho didn't lie her azz off . Since when does hearsay hold water?

If that's all the prosecution has they are wasting tax payer money pursuing the case. laugh laugh laugh laugh

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/28/13 07:13 AM

She lies and gets defended? grumble laugh
laugh

Let's say for a second ghetto-ho didn't lie her jazz off . Since when does hearsay hold water?


there are many types of 'hearsay' which 'hold water'

especially if the testimony is from someone involved IN the conversation with another who can not testify due to their DEATH,,,lol


for example, in the case of of Jodi arias, her boyfriends friends and families testified about their conversations with him about HER BEHAVIOR

in the OJ trial, Nicole SImpsons family testified about nicoles conversations with THEM

in many trials, friends and family of the victims testify to conversations had with the victim


,,,anyone truly interested in the laws regarding hearsay can start here in section 800

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre#article_viii

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/28/13 07:14 AM


She lies and gets defended? grumble laugh
laugh

Let's say for a second ghetto-ho didn't lie her azz off . Since when does hearsay hold water?

If that's all the prosecution has they are wasting tax payer money pursuing the case. laugh laugh laugh laugh


time will tell, they also have Zimmermans own words and the gun that ended the boys life

willing2's photo
Fri 06/28/13 07:29 AM
Why defend a liar?
Cuz she ain't white?

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/28/13 07:32 AM

Why defend a liar?
Cuz she ain't white?



cause I know of no one white or black that hasn't lied,,,,
and due to relevance

if your mom lied about her weight, would that mean she lies about 'everything'?,,,,,or that she is likely to lie about physical appearance


this girl clearly lied because she was trying to stay out of the limielight,,, now that she has to testify, that particular motive or interest is irrelevant,, and she has been CONSISTENT in what she has said regarding her testimony on the stand

if you no some who never lie about ANYTHING, you are fortunate

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/28/13 02:08 PM


once n e 1 lies it puts everything they say into a questionable area

whether its their weight or their whereabouts or what they claim to c

Dodo_David's photo
Fri 06/28/13 04:33 PM





I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel.

Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar.
Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug
Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded.
Does a recording exist?
I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again.
Any bets?

BTW
Link was overtly racist.


FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol)

FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun

FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one

I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,,


huh Privileged? Who is privileged?



the one who wasnt 'ghetto' ,,

the one who grew up with a FLORIDA MAGISTRATE JUDGE for a father, attended private catholic school for his youthful years, and avoided any real jail time and carried a gun even after accusation of physical assault in his home, at his job AND Against an officer,


privileged,, doesnt often happen to those 'ghetto' folks, who people want to lock up the minute they think they didnt keep running away from them like a good boy,,,but actually stopped running at some point to ask a simple question,,,,


msharmony, according to your logic, a child is privileged if that child attends a private school instead of a public school. Well, the adults who send their children to private schools must also be privileged because not all adults can afford to send their children to private schools.

Anyway, using the word "ghetto" to describe anyone in the Zimmerman case is uncalled for.

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/28/13 05:45 PM



once n e 1 lies it puts everything they say into a questionable area

whether its their weight or their whereabouts or what they claim to c


you must question everyone about everything then

I dont live that way

I understand people are not perfect and have their reasons for what they do

lying in one circumstance doesnt mean someone lies about everything,, i think thats nonsense

context is being overlooked in such an assumption,,,