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I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel. Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar. Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded. Does a recording exist? I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again. Any bets? BTW Link was overtly racist. FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol) FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,,  Privileged? Who is privileged? the one who wasnt 'ghetto' ,, the one who grew up with a FLORIDA MAGISTRATE JUDGE for a father, attended private catholic school for his youthful years, and avoided any real jail time and carried a gun even after accusation of physical assault in his home, at his job AND Against an officer, privileged,, doesnt often happen to those 'ghetto' folks, who people want to lock up the minute they think they didnt keep running away from them like a good boy,,,but actually stopped running at some point to ask a simple question,,,, msharmony, according to your logic, a child is privileged if that child attends a private school instead of a public school. Well, the adults who send their children to private schools must also be privileged because not all adults can afford to send their children to private schools. Anyway, using the word "ghetto" to describe anyone in the Zimmerman case is uncalled for. no, a child is privileged if they are in a network which enables them to attend private school and ESCAPE more than a slap on the wrist when they receive restraining order, put their hands on a cop, and toss someone out of a store,,, and when the said person commiting these actions happens to be the son of a MAGISTRATE JUDGE ,, he certainly has 'privileges' most do not,,,, |
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I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel. Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar. Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded. Does a recording exist? I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again. Any bets? BTW Link was overtly racist. FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol) FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,, Privileged? Who is privileged? the one who wasnt 'ghetto' ,, the one who grew up with a FLORIDA MAGISTRATE JUDGE for a father, attended private catholic school for his youthful years, and avoided any real jail time and carried a gun even after accusation of physical assault in his home, at his job AND Against an officer, privileged,, doesnt often happen to those 'ghetto' folks, who people want to lock up the minute they think they didnt keep running away from them like a good boy,,,but actually stopped running at some point to ask a simple question,,,, msharmony, according to your logic, a child is privileged if that child attends a private school instead of a public school. Well, the adults who send their children to private schools must also be privileged because not all adults can afford to send their children to private schools. Anyway, using the word "ghetto" to describe anyone in the Zimmerman case is uncalled for. no, a child is privileged if they are in a network which enables them to attend private school and ESCAPE more than a slap on the wrist when they receive restraining order, put their hands on a cop, and toss someone out of a store,,, and when the said person commiting these actions happens to be the son of a MAGISTRATE JUDGE ,, he certainly has 'privileges' most do not,,,, You have not demonstrated that Zimmerman's father has anything to do with Zimmerman's legal ups and downs as an adult. Also, from the perspective of a father who cannot afford to send his child to a private school, it appears to me that a child is privileged if that child's family can afford to send that child to a private school. |
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I understand what msharmony is saying in the OP. She isn't agreeing with the racist undertone of the linked-to article, just with the defense of Rachel Jeantel. Fact. Ghetto-rat is a known liar. Fact. The only thing that can be proven is she had a conversation with dead thug Fact. Content of said conversation cannot be called fact unless, said conversation was recorded. Does a recording exist? I won't be surprised to hear ghetto-rat lies again. Any bets? BTW Link was overtly racist. FACT: privileged thugh is a known liar (Claiming he wasnt following after being heard breathing heavy,,lol) FACT: The only thing proven is that privileged thug followed the deceased , a scuffle incurred with the deceased unarmed and the privileged thug armed with a gun,, the privileged thug got hit by fists, the deceased got shot dead with a gun FACT: Because we have no FACTS in terms of physical evidence of WHAT happened prior to the scuffle, doesnt mean we dont have enough REASONABLE suspicion and CONSEQUENTIAL evidence to make a decision as to whether this was a criminal homicide or justifiable one I wont be surprised to hear bigots continuing to cheer at the thought that the deceased friend may have been 'destroyed', or somehow caught in some perjured testimony because the lawyers cant seem to hear her correctly,,,, Privileged? Who is privileged? the one who wasnt 'ghetto' ,, the one who grew up with a FLORIDA MAGISTRATE JUDGE for a father, attended private catholic school for his youthful years, and avoided any real jail time and carried a gun even after accusation of physical assault in his home, at his job AND Against an officer, privileged,, doesnt often happen to those 'ghetto' folks, who people want to lock up the minute they think they didnt keep running away from them like a good boy,,,but actually stopped running at some point to ask a simple question,,,, msharmony, according to your logic, a child is privileged if that child attends a private school instead of a public school. Well, the adults who send their children to private schools must also be privileged because not all adults can afford to send their children to private schools. Anyway, using the word "ghetto" to describe anyone in the Zimmerman case is uncalled for. no, a child is privileged if they are in a network which enables them to attend private school and ESCAPE more than a slap on the wrist when they receive restraining order, put their hands on a cop, and toss someone out of a store,,, and when the said person commiting these actions happens to be the son of a MAGISTRATE JUDGE ,, he certainly has 'privileges' most do not,,,, You have not demonstrated that Zimmerman's father has anything to do with Zimmerman's legal ups and downs as an adult. Also, from the perspective of a father who cannot afford to send his child to a private school, it appears to me that a child is privileged if that child's family can afford to send that child to a private school. its no way to prove it,, its what I believe, just as others believe treyvon was a 'thug' who suddenly turned from kid trying to avoid confrontation to kid looking for trouble,,, private school alone isn't indicator of privilege, some private schools are pretty affordable ,,,depending upon area but , Im guessing the network that a judge would raise his son in would not be people perceived as 'thugs' or 'ghetto' regardless of the trouble they got into (assault on a cop, restraining orders by spouse,,etc,,) |
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Is the prosecution trying to lose?
Their new witness stated dead thug, his Mama's name for him, was on top of big Z beating him MMA style. How Zr REFRESHING the truth is coming out. No matter how the bigoteds swing it, Z is looking more free. Hopefully, the jury won't be intimidated by the death threats they are getting if big Z is found not guilty. |
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Aside from the racial undertone ('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people') I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog your correct the racial overtone of the article is highly inappropriate and that is not going help rachel either, if she really even needs help, that is. Aside from the negative impact on a wider scale of those overtones. I defintely understand rachel (Honestly I do fr reasons I am nt going to get into here) and as a white person I would have no issue with her persona as my job is to seek facts. why would jurors have a problem? she is not the one I trial??? |
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Is the prosecution trying to lose? Their new witness stated dead thug, his Mama's name for him, was on top of big Z beating him MMA style. How Zr REFRESHING the truth is coming out. No matter how the bigoteds swing it, Z is looking more free. Hopefully, the jury won't be intimidated by the death threats they are getting if big Z is found not guilty. proof of cultural divide the witness testimony so far says to me that Z wasn't sustaining life threatening injuries during the fight, and that Z had mma training himself that kind of begs the question of why he 'had to shoot' T,, without ever even landing a punch himself,,, being some forty pounds heavier than T at the time,,,,sounds more to me like he just wanted to shoot him,,,,and was able to start a confrontation that would give him an excuse,,,, |
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Aside from the racial undertone ('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people') I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog your correct the racial overtone of the article is highly inappropriate and that is not going help rachel either, if she really even needs help, that is. Aside from the negative impact on a wider scale of those overtones. I defintely understand rachel (Honestly I do fr reasons I am nt going to get into here) and as a white person I would have no issue with her persona as my job is to seek facts. why would jurors have a problem? she is not the one I trial??? as I said, there is a cultural divide in perception (notice I didn't say racial),, I have been following threads on this case and people are saying awful things about this girl some think she is disrespectful, and others don't see her as disrespectful at all and, if you are one who believes that you should need to 'keep running' when someone is following you, certainly there is some expectation of demeanor that makes ones character become questionable |
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Defense discredited ghetto.
It's no longer valid |
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Defense discredited ghetto. It's no longer valid no more than z is discredited for claiming in the bond hearing that he didn't know treyvons age when on the police recording he states that he is in his late teens as I said,, cultural divide,, people will see and hear what they want and several legal 'experts' have stated that this defendant seems credible and Consistent in spite of the pressure and desire not to be there,, and using the exact slurs of that night make her more credible that she is not trying to sugar coat or create facts,,,, ,,but,, its up to the people in that room,,, |
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Aside from the racial undertone ('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people') I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog your correct the racial overtone of the article is highly inappropriate and that is not going help rachel either, if she really even needs help, that is. Aside from the negative impact on a wider scale of those overtones. I defintely understand rachel (Honestly I do fr reasons I am nt going to get into here) and as a white person I would have no issue with her persona as my job is to seek facts. why would jurors have a problem? she is not the one I trial??? as I said, there is a cultural divide in perception (notice I didn't say racial),, I have been following threads on this case and people are saying awful things about this girl some think she is disrespectful, and others don't see her as disrespectful at all and, if you are one who believes that you should need to 'keep running' when someone is following you, certainly there is some expectation of demeanor that makes ones character become questionable what we choose to do when someone is following us will depend on a set of variables. generally I go to a well lit place where there are a lot of people around. I spent a lot of time in inner city Philadelphia as a young person. it is where i am from, and in NYC as I had a lot of family there. I was TAUGHT therefore what to do when someone is following me. That does not mean I will question the choice of another. just the facts, please my just the facts please attitude is why I have no problem being on a jury where rachel testifies. I have no reason to form a personal opinion of her. I have known many "rachels" some I like moreso than others and the reasons have nothing to do with race or culture. I was totally and completely offended by that blog and I agee it's valideity is destroyed by the overt racism it displays in the title and additional racial overtones through out. racism is not somehow accpetable when it comes from a person of color. I know you are aware of that. I think we do sometimes fear people who are racially or culturally different out of ignorance usually but sometimes legitimately....when those fears are based on the behavior of the individual, for example if someone is following me or threatening me (in my perception) I will be quite alert & concerned regardless of race, gender, culture, age or any other variable...and if that person does not leave me alone I will kick them to the curb irrespective of those variables....equality in "curb kicking" if u will...lol |
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Aside from the racial undertone ('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people') I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog your correct the racial overtone of the article is highly inappropriate and that is not going help rachel either, if she really even needs help, that is. Aside from the negative impact on a wider scale of those overtones. I defintely understand rachel (Honestly I do fr reasons I am nt going to get into here) and as a white person I would have no issue with her persona as my job is to seek facts. why would jurors have a problem? she is not the one I trial??? as I said, there is a cultural divide in perception (notice I didn't say racial),, I have been following threads on this case and people are saying awful things about this girl some think she is disrespectful, and others don't see her as disrespectful at all and, if you are one who believes that you should need to 'keep running' when someone is following you, certainly there is some expectation of demeanor that makes ones character become questionable what we choose to do when someone is following us will depend on a set of variables. generally I go to a well lit place where there are a lot of people around. I spent a lot of time in inner city Philadelphia as a young person. it is where i am from, and in NYC as I had a lot of family there. I was TAUGHT therefore what to do when someone is following me. That does not mean I will question the choice of another. just the facts, please my just the facts please attitude is why I have no problem being on a jury where rachel testifies. I have no reason to form a personal opinion of her. I have known many "rachels" some I like moreso than others and the reasons have nothing to do with race or culture. I was totally and completely offended by that blog and I agee it's valideity is destroyed by the overt racism it displays in the title and additional racial overtones through out. racism is not somehow accpetable when it comes from a person of color. I know you are aware of that. I think we do sometimes fear people who are racially or culturally different out of ignorance usually but sometimes legitimately....when those fears are based on the behavior of the individual, for example if someone is following me or threatening me (in my perception) I will be quite alert & concerned regardless of race, gender, culture, age or any other variable...and if that person does not leave me alone I will kick them to the curb irrespective of those variables....equality in "curb kicking" if u will...lol lol, I agree and I Think that was attempted several times on that night, |
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proof of cultural divide the witness testimony so far says to me that Z wasn't sustaining life threatening injuries during the fight, and that Z had mma training himself that kind of begs the question of why he 'had to shoot' T,, without ever even landing a punch himself,,, being some forty pounds heavier than T at the time,,,,sounds more to me like he just wanted to shoot him,,,,and was able to start a confrontation that would give him an excuse,,,, Many people are just afraid of blacks in general, because blacks have been "stero typed" by many as bad men, young thugs, gang bangers etc. Some people would just shoot first, when they see a black man or teen in a suspicious situation, even if there would be no trouble. T was just "stero typed". Imo |
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proof of cultural divide the witness testimony so far says to me that Z wasn't sustaining life threatening injuries during the fight, and that Z had mma training himself that kind of begs the question of why he 'had to shoot' T,, without ever even landing a punch himself,,, being some forty pounds heavier than T at the time,,,,sounds more to me like he just wanted to shoot him,,,,and was able to start a confrontation that would give him an excuse,,,, Many people are just afraid of blacks in general, because blacks have been "stero typed" by many as bad men, young thugs, gang bangers etc. Some people would just shoot first, when they see a black man or teen in a suspicious situation, even if there would be no trouble. T was just "stero typed". Imo many agree with you,,,including me..... |
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If ghetto is charged with purgery, will her culture go out and kill dem sum white folks like they threatening to do if big Z is set free?
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If ghetto is charged with purgery, will her culture go out and kill dem sum white folks like they threatening to do if big Z is set free? somehow I doubt it, one random tweet reposted all over the web does not a 'culture' make,,,, |
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If ghetto is charged with purgery, will her culture go out and kill dem sum white folks like they threatening to do if big Z is set free? somehow I doubt it, one random tweet reposted all over the web does not a 'culture' make,,,, No, just a ghetto attitude, sub-culture. Am curious. How many on the site would like to see them follow through and/or will join in on the massacre?  |
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Aside from the racial undertone ('white people' could easily be replaced with just 'some people') I totally agree with the article,, but more importantly, the responses truly give me hope http://globalgrind.com/news/what-white-people-dont-understand-about-rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin-blog your correct the racial overtone of the article is highly inappropriate and that is not going help rachel either, if she really even needs help, that is. Aside from the negative impact on a wider scale of those overtones. I defintely understand rachel (Honestly I do fr reasons I am nt going to get into here) and as a white person I would have no issue with her persona as my job is to seek facts. why would jurors have a problem? she is not the one I trial??? as I said, there is a cultural divide in perception (notice I didn't say racial),, I have been following threads on this case and people are saying awful things about this girl some think she is disrespectful, and others don't see her as disrespectful at all and, if you are one who believes that you should need to 'keep running' when someone is following you, certainly there is some expectation of demeanor that makes ones character become questionable what we choose to do when someone is following us will depend on a set of variables. generally I go to a well lit place where there are a lot of people around. I spent a lot of time in inner city Philadelphia as a young person. it is where i am from, and in NYC as I had a lot of family there. I was TAUGHT therefore what to do when someone is following me. That does not mean I will question the choice of another. just the facts, please my just the facts please attitude is why I have no problem being on a jury where rachel testifies. I have no reason to form a personal opinion of her. I have known many "rachels" some I like moreso than others and the reasons have nothing to do with race or culture. I was totally and completely offended by that blog and I agee it's valideity is destroyed by the overt racism it displays in the title and additional racial overtones through out. racism is not somehow accpetable when it comes from a person of color. I know you are aware of that. I think we do sometimes fear people who are racially or culturally different out of ignorance usually but sometimes legitimately....when those fears are based on the behavior of the individual, for example if someone is following me or threatening me (in my perception) I will be quite alert & concerned regardless of race, gender, culture, age or any other variable...and if that person does not leave me alone I will kick them to the curb irrespective of those variables....equality in "curb kicking" if u will...lol lol, I agree and I Think that was attempted several times on that night, possibly - I actually do not know that much about it - I wonder stuff like was it a drug deal gone bad ? ...first thing that occurred to me I guess I am such a  rather than a hater that I do not like to see everything that happens be reduced to racial.... it's not an excuse to shoot a man and it's not an excuse for revenge. I do not know who instigated what...but I have been on both sides of a lot of situations and I seldomn see people instigating things on purpose (after kindergarten).....so I am not saying Z was innocent or not...just that there has gotta be more than 2 men in the dark...to the story...drugs, women....something |
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proof of cultural divide the witness testimony so far says to me that Z wasn't sustaining life threatening injuries during the fight, and that Z had mma training himself that kind of begs the question of why he 'had to shoot' T,, without ever even landing a punch himself,,, being some forty pounds heavier than T at the time,,,,sounds more to me like he just wanted to shoot him,,,,and was able to start a confrontation that would give him an excuse,,,, Many people are just afraid of blacks in general, because blacks have been "stero typed" by many as bad men, young thugs, gang bangers etc. Some people would just shoot first, when they see a black man or teen in a suspicious situation, even if there would be no trouble. T was just "stero typed". Imo it's possible that those stereotypes exsited that night and they definitely have been around for a long time as have all kinds of other stereotypes. I am just not sure they were a factor on that night in that shooting |
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Many people are just afraid of blacks in general, because blacks have been "stero typed" by many as bad men, young thugs, gang bangers etc. Some people would just shoot first, when they see a black man or teen in a suspicious situation, even if there would be no trouble. T was just "stero typed". Imo it's possible that those stereotypes exsited that night and they definitely have been around for a long time as have all kinds of other stereotypes. I am just not sure they were a factor on that night in that shooting There has been plenty of stereotyping on this thread, such as calling Rachel Jeantel a ghetto person, such as calling George Zimmerman privileged. |
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If ghetto is charged with purgery, will her culture go out and kill dem sum white folks like they threatening to do if big Z is set free? somehow I doubt it, one random tweet reposted all over the web does not a 'culture' make,,,, No, just a ghetto attitude, sub-culture. Am curious. How many on the site would like to see them follow through and/or will join in on the massacre? I dont know about a 'them', I know about an i ndividual who expressed ignorance thats been posted all over the internet multiple times at this point,,, but that person probably doesnt post in this thread,,,and most people probably dont agree with him, considering all the other times something like this happened ad people got off with no rise in crime,,, |
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