Topic: President Obama: Trayvon Martin's death is a tragedy for Ame
mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 11:56 AM






and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 11:57 AM






and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


you seem to be leaving out the part about him being a "self-proclaimed" security...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:01 PM
i used to think there wasn't as much racism going on with whites... now i can see how wrong i was.. these comments in here are just showing the real hate...

no photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:07 PM

Travon was a drug user. There was pot in his blood at the time of his death. ( A lot of teens are FYI.) And yes, even white kids.

Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain, certified and approved by a local police board

He was found not guilty by a jury of women. If you have any more complaints, or questions you should address your concerns to the court, the judge, the jury and the lawyers.

and get over it.



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Judge says Trayvon Martin pot use can be admitted in Zimmerman trial

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-pot-zimmerman-trial-20130708,0,7670829.story

The judge in the George Zimmerman murder trial reversed course Monday and ruled that the jury may be told that teenager Trayvon Martin had small amounts of marijuana in his body when he was shot and killed.


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Mon 07/15/13 12:15 PM

i used to think there wasn't as much racism going on with whites... now i can see how wrong i was.. these comments in here are just showing the real hate...



Really?

Is racism and hatred what you are wanting to create?

You are doing a good job of it.

Complaining is manifestation. If you put your attention on something and decide to believe in it, you have created it in your reality.

As long as you believe it, and continue to put your attention on it, you will encounter more and more of it in your life.

Have fun with that.


Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:17 PM







and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?


The pot calling the kettle black? slaphead

Moe, I guess you have NO idea what it takes to become captain of a neighborhood watch.....ohwell

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 07/15/13 12:34 PM
its not the job of neighborhood watch to do anything but WATCH , and inform police of suspicious activity,, pursuit with a weapon is NOT part of neighborhood watch,,,

neighborhood watches are organized by neighbors, it doesnt really take much except to decide you want to be a part and then to have enough members agree to make you 'captain'

Z was taking tamerzepan during the time of the shooting,,,

T had some weed in his system


,,,whatever relevance that has to stalking and accosting or shooting someone,, or fighting someone who is stalking and accosting you,,,

Toodygirl5's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:53 PM


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?



I see a lot of racist comments on this Topic.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:54 PM


i used to think there wasn't as much racism going on with whites... now i can see how wrong i was.. these comments in here are just showing the real hate...



Really?

Is racism and hatred what you are wanting to create?

You are doing a good job of it.

Complaining is manifestation. If you put your attention on something and decide to believe in it, you have created it in your reality.

As long as you believe it, and continue to put your attention on it, you will encounter more and more of it in your life.

Have fun with that.




i'm creating?

can you show me where i said anything racist?

i can show at least 10 racist remarks you've said in the last 20 minutes...

so who is creating what here?

who said he was a drug doing thief that was looking to break into houses?

you, of all people in here, always talking about our rights and privileges being taken away, but yet you can't seem to see that walking down a sidewalk is not illegal... your a hypocrite...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:56 PM



for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?



I see a lot of racist comments on this Topic.


it's sad, no wonder the blacks are pissed...it's not about the trial, it's about stupid comments like these all over the internet...

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:57 PM








and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?


The pot calling the kettle black? slaphead

Moe, I guess you have NO idea what it takes to become captain of a neighborhood watch.....ohwell


well, maybe i don't... but i'm sure it has nothing to do with shooting unarmed kids for nothing...

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/15/13 12:59 PM




for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?



I see a lot of racist comments on this Topic.


it's sad, no wonder the blacks are pissed...it's not about the trial, it's about stupid comments like these all over the internet...



most I know are more saddened than 'pissed' , but it does reaffirm to many of us the likelihood that we are the ones seen as the animal, the criminal, etc,, and that our kids lives are worth so much less than other kids,,,,,,in terms of the 'justice' system,,,,

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:05 PM



and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


interesting flip to that; if martin had not jumped zimmerman, and proceeded to beating the crap out of him, zimmerman wouldn't have needed to use the firearm he was carrying... no?

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:08 PM









and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?


The pot calling the kettle black? slaphead

Moe, I guess you have NO idea what it takes to become captain of a neighborhood watch.....ohwell


well, maybe i don't... but i'm sure it has nothing to do with shooting unarmed kids for nothing...


slaphead He was being attacked and a jury says it was self defense and he is innocent of ALL charges!

Only an idiot would continue to stir the pot!

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:12 PM










and he had to use another Tragedy to plug his anti-Gun Stance!
Sick!sick sick sick ill


Yeh if Zimmerman had not had a gun, Travon would have beaten him into a coma.

I don't think "gun control" is an issue here. Zimmerman had a legal licence to carry and use his gun. If he had not shot Martin, then it would be Martin who would be running loose with a gun. He would have probably taken it.




all speculation on your part... had Zimmerman stayed in his car, he wouldn't have needed a gun...


Oh goody, now you are admitting that he NEEDED A GUN.

I knew you would come around.

Speculation? No, it is simply one of Many possible things that could have happened IF IF IF IF IF IF....






possible = speculation... i know your not stupid..

i've had the crap beat of me 10-15 times in my lifetime, and never "needed" a gun...

TM didn't go looking for Zimmerman, Zimmerman was hunting TM...




DUH!! THAT WAS HIS JOB! Neighborhood watch... get it?

frustrated

TM was probably looking for an apartment to break into or looking to score some drugs. He was loitering in a neighborhood where he did not live.


for someone as informed as you think you are, your not very informed...

he was living with his mother, a few blocks away... and there you go, making another racist statement... just because he was a black kid, he was looking for drugs? at what point in the trail did they see him doing drugs or breaking into a house?


The pot calling the kettle black? slaphead

Moe, I guess you have NO idea what it takes to become captain of a neighborhood watch.....ohwell


well, maybe i don't... but i'm sure it has nothing to do with shooting unarmed kids for nothing...


slaphead He was being attacked and a jury says it was self defense and he is innocent of ALL charges!

Only an idiot would continue to stir the pot!


thank you, i'm quite aware of the verdict...
it's my opinion, and if you don't agree, then you don't agree...
no need for the 2nd grade name calling though, we are both adults...

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:12 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Mon 07/15/13 01:15 PM

its not the job of neighborhood watch to do anything but WATCH , and inform police of suspicious activity,, pursuit with a weapon is NOT part of neighborhood watch,,,

neighborhood watches are organized by neighbors, it doesnt really take much except to decide you want to be a part and then to have enough members agree to make you 'captain'

Z was taking tamerzepan during the time of the shooting,,,

T had some weed in his system


,,,whatever relevance that has to stalking and accosting or shooting someone,, or fighting someone who is stalking and accosting you,,,


The weapon zimmerman had did not come into play until he was being flogged, or did i miss something here? If he had it on him, it was "concealed", meaning "hidden", yes? Therefore Martin did not know Zimmerman was carrying. Martin possibly he suspected he was being followed, but i fail to see that as justification for beating his head into a sidewalk.

Again, unless Zimmerman had his gun drawn there was no reason to jump him. And if this were perceived as a threat, should Martin have not called the police himself?

willing2's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:14 PM
It's only justice if it's done the way white haters call it.

McZ is innocent.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:17 PM


its not the job of neighborhood watch to do anything but WATCH , and inform police of suspicious activity,, pursuit with a weapon is NOT part of neighborhood watch,,,

neighborhood watches are organized by neighbors, it doesnt really take much except to decide you want to be a part and then to have enough members agree to make you 'captain'

Z was taking tamerzepan during the time of the shooting,,,

T had some weed in his system


,,,whatever relevance that has to stalking and accosting or shooting someone,, or fighting someone who is stalking and accosting you,,,


The weapon zimmerman had did not come into play until he was being flogged, or did i miss something here? If he had it on him, it was "concealed", meaning "hidden", yes? Therefore Martin did not know Zimmerman was carrying. Martin possibly he suspected he was being followed, but i fail to see that as justification for beating his head into a sidewalk.

Again, unless Zimmerman had his gun drawn there was no reason to jump him.



flogging?

lol, here's a pic of the "flogging"



last time i got whooped, my right eye was closed shut for a week, 2 ribs broken, nose broke and a broken collar bone... i didn't have to shoot anyone

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 07/15/13 01:28 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Mon 07/15/13 01:30 PM



its not the job of neighborhood watch to do anything but WATCH , and inform police of suspicious activity,, pursuit with a weapon is NOT part of neighborhood watch,,,

neighborhood watches are organized by neighbors, it doesnt really take much except to decide you want to be a part and then to have enough members agree to make you 'captain'

Z was taking tamerzepan during the time of the shooting,,,

T had some weed in his system


,,,whatever relevance that has to stalking and accosting or shooting someone,, or fighting someone who is stalking and accosting you,,,


The weapon zimmerman had did not come into play until he was being flogged, or did i miss something here? If he had it on him, it was "concealed", meaning "hidden", yes? Therefore Martin did not know Zimmerman was carrying. Martin possibly he suspected he was being followed, but i fail to see that as justification for beating his head into a sidewalk.

Again, unless Zimmerman had his gun drawn there was no reason to jump him.



flogging?

lol, here's a pic of the "flogging"



last time i got whooped, my right eye was closed shut for a week, 2 ribs broken, nose broke and a broken collar bone... i didn't have to shoot anyone


Interesting, we are to know the severity of the beating we are receiving in advance to acting upon it? So how severely must one be beaten before utilizing deadly force? Where exactly should the line be drawn? At what point should one must wait until before his/her life feels threatened?


msharmony's photo
Mon 07/15/13 02:49 PM


its not the job of neighborhood watch to do anything but WATCH , and inform police of suspicious activity,, pursuit with a weapon is NOT part of neighborhood watch,,,

neighborhood watches are organized by neighbors, it doesnt really take much except to decide you want to be a part and then to have enough members agree to make you 'captain'

Z was taking tamerzepan during the time of the shooting,,,

T had some weed in his system


,,,whatever relevance that has to stalking and accosting or shooting someone,, or fighting someone who is stalking and accosting you,,,


The weapon zimmerman had did not come into play until he was being flogged, or did i miss something here? If he had it on him, it was "concealed", meaning "hidden", yes? Therefore Martin did not know Zimmerman was carrying. Martin possibly he suspected he was being followed, but i fail to see that as justification for beating his head into a sidewalk.

Again, unless Zimmerman had his gun drawn there was no reason to jump him. And if this were perceived as a threat, should Martin have not called the police himself?



part of the issue is IF he had it 'hidden'...the police on the scene first said he saw it when z moved,,,when he moved,, not very 'concealed',,,in my opinion

and even if martin didnt KNOW he was carrying, I promise that if I suspect someone has gone out of their way to follow me at night, and they dont show any indication of having a good reason, become combative when I ask them why they are following me, and then approach, reach for me, or reach for anything else while in close proximity to me,, IM going to feel that I may be in potential danger, and they MAY be armed and Im not waiting around to find out before I fight,,,,me and most people I know feel t hat way too

and again, for many people, calling the police isnt something that seen as a solution,, depending upon the situation and where and who they are they can in fact expect that the police would do nothing,,,,

he didnt call the police, as he was already on a phone call, but he did do everything text book to avoid this confrontation as long as it seemed reasonable,, before asking the very justifiable question...'why are you following me'......from there any combative answer with a slightly provocative or threatening approach is grounds for T to feel the right to defend himself...

but those praising the watchmen obviously just dont see it that way,, and the jury didnt feel they had the proof of that to counter Zs bs story about just suddenly being 'jumped' by the young black male,,,,