Topic: Part time work DOWN, full time work UP
msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 04:26 PM
According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/myth-obamacare-causing-part-time-135441398.html

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 04:28 PM



They talked about the jobs report earlier today and your numbers don't add up to what they said.

Where did you get this from, www.obozoisgreatpraisebetoobozoscratchobozoisgreatpraisebetoobozo.com

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 04:39 PM




They talked about the jobs report earlier today and your numbers don't add up to what they said.

Where did you get this from, www.obozoisgreatpraisebetoobozoscratchobozoisgreatpraisebetoobozo.com


the cite is even highlighted, ,just click on it,,,laugh laugh

no photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:00 PM
laugh laugh laugh :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:38 PM





They talked about the jobs report earlier today and your numbers don't add up to what they said.

Where did you get this from, www.obozoisgreatpraisebetoobozoscratchobozoisgreatpraisebetoobozo.com


the cite is even highlighted, ,just click on it,,,laugh laugh


Why? Just more Obozo cheer leading!

TJN's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:38 PM
Edited by TJN on Tue 10/22/13 05:40 PM
The jobs # for September was 148,000 jobs added give to take a few I don't remember the exact #


Your guys numbers are
Part time jobs down 594,000 full time up 691,000
That doesn't seem to make sense to me. But what do I know


This guy was just throwing numbers all over the place. I think he may have confused himself.


This part makes absolutely no sense at all

"That isn’t what’s happening. The share of part-timers who say they usually work between 30 and 34 hours at their main job has been roughly flat over the past three years, at about 28%. (September data aren’t yet available.) If anything, it’s actually risen in the past year, though the change has been minor. The share working just under 30 hours has indeed risen somewhat, but the share working under 25 hours has fallen—suggesting that employers are giving part-timers more hours, rather than cutting full-timers’ hours back."

This just states that part time workers are getting more hours. They however are still part time workers.
Has nothing to do with full time jobs hours being cut back to part time hours.

I think I hurt my brain reading that article. And then confused myself trying to make any kind of sense in my post.


boredinaz06's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:50 PM


It doesn't have to make sense, to an obozo cheer leader obozo is great, praise be to obozo.

It would be nice if they held this jackass to the same standards they would a white president in recent years.

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 10/22/13 05:56 PM

According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/myth-obamacare-causing-part-time-135441398.html


Although I welcome such good news, I will delay celebrating until February of 2014. Right now, retailers are adding work hours in preparation for the upcoming holiday season. Those work hours may be reduced after the holidays are over.

Lpdon's photo
Tue 10/22/13 06:01 PM


According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/myth-obamacare-causing-part-time-135441398.html


Although I welcome such good news, I will delay celebrating until February of 2014. Right now, retailers are adding work hours in preparation for the upcoming holiday season. Those work hours may be reduced after the holidays are over.


They will be reduced. Major retailers like Best Buy, Target, Wal-Mart, Burlington, Macys, Pennys, Toys R Us all hire from November to Jan and all employees are classified as temporary PT. They may occasionally get more then PT hours but they are PT holiday help and will be unemployed again in January.

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/22/13 10:54 PM



It doesn't have to make sense, to an obozo cheer leader obozo is great, praise be to obozo.

It would be nice if they held this jackass to the same standards they would a white president in recent years.



yes, any numbers that don't add to the 'Obama antichrist' fearmongering are confusing and don't make sense,,, let me put it more clearly,, for those having difficulty,,

FROM THE BLS JOBS REPORT (Easily searchable in any engine)

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf table A-9

not seasonally adjusted

sept 2012 FT 115,678 PT 27,655
august 2013 FT 117,868 PT 26,641
sept 2013 FT 117,308 PT 27,343


in the past year,, that's been an increase of 1630 in FT work and decrease of 312 in PT

lets compare to the year Obama took office, before healthcare reform passed,,

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_10022009.pdf

sept 2008 FT 120,213 PT 25,097
august 2009 FT 113,863 PT 26,211
sept 2009 FT 111,991 PT 27,088


in that year, there was a decrease of 8222 in FT work and increase of 19919 in PT work,, no healthcare reform to blame it on either


now, a secret, with 12 months in any given year, one can honestly pick and choose months to show increases or decreases in either pt or ft work,, what one cannot due is prove with current trends is that they are anymore related to healthcare than those increases/decreases have been in the past,,,



InvictusV's photo
Wed 10/23/13 10:16 AM
This is interesting.. and it does not paint the rosy picture that the copied article projects..

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2013



Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 148,000 in September, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 7.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in construction, wholesale trade, and transportation and warehousing.


The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was unchanged at 7.9 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)


The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged in September at 34.5 hours.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm




msharmony's photo
Wed 10/23/13 01:42 PM
Edited by msharmony on Wed 10/23/13 01:46 PM

This is interesting.. and it does not paint the rosy picture that the copied article projects..

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2013



Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 148,000 in September, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 7.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in construction, wholesale trade, and transportation and warehousing.


The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was unchanged at 7.9 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)


The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged in September at 34.5 hours.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm







yes it is interesting, as I said, with 12 months in a year , one can paint whatever 'picture' they choose by picking the months to compare

the above is a summary of the change over ONE MONTH of time, seasonally adjusted numbers

if you reread my post, my numbers regarded the change in a year,,,not seasonally adjusted numbers




InvictusV's photo
Wed 10/23/13 09:28 PM


This is interesting.. and it does not paint the rosy picture that the copied article projects..

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2013



Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 148,000 in September, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 7.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in construction, wholesale trade, and transportation and warehousing.


The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was unchanged at 7.9 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)


The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged in September at 34.5 hours.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm







yes it is interesting, as I said, with 12 months in a year , one can paint whatever 'picture' they choose by picking the months to compare

the above is a summary of the change over ONE MONTH of time, seasonally adjusted numbers

if you reread my post, my numbers regarded the change in a year,,,not seasonally adjusted numbers






These are the first 3 sentences of the article you posted:


According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000.

This was one hopeful nugget in an otherwise lackluster jobs report.

Workers are considered to be "part time" if they work under 35 hours a week.

The first sentence you posted..

So where in the original post did you talk about 12 months of numbers?


Here is the only other mention in the article:

The share of part-timers who say they usually work between 30 and 34 hours at their main job has been roughly flat over the past three years.


Roughly flat over the last 3 years?



So that means it is dropping?





msharmony's photo
Thu 10/24/13 03:28 AM



This is interesting.. and it does not paint the rosy picture that the copied article projects..

THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- SEPTEMBER 2013



Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 148,000 in September, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 7.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment increased in construction, wholesale trade, and transportation and warehousing.


The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers) was unchanged at 7.9 million in September. These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job. (See table A-8.)


The average workweek for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls was unchanged in September at 34.5 hours.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm







yes it is interesting, as I said, with 12 months in a year , one can paint whatever 'picture' they choose by picking the months to compare

the above is a summary of the change over ONE MONTH of time, seasonally adjusted numbers

if you reread my post, my numbers regarded the change in a year,,,not seasonally adjusted numbers






These are the first 3 sentences of the article you posted:


According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000.

This was one hopeful nugget in an otherwise lackluster jobs report.

Workers are considered to be "part time" if they work under 35 hours a week.

The first sentence you posted..

So where in the original post did you talk about 12 months of numbers?


Here is the only other mention in the article:

The share of part-timers who say they usually work between 30 and 34 hours at their main job has been roughly flat over the past three years.


Roughly flat over the last 3 years?



So that means it is dropping?







no, it means, there doesn't seem to be numbers suggesting an increase in those working full time suddenly being cut back to part time,,(due to reform or anything else) and the ft numbers are in fact going through their normal ups and downs


it means those working 30-34 hours are staying steady (also not being cut back in hours)

and the number of people working LESS THAN 35 hours is decreasing, while those working more is increasing


,,,just 'facts' ,,, with the numbers available ,, people can find their own to attempt to explain or spin whatever political financial theories they choose to,,,

no photo
Thu 10/24/13 09:13 AM


According to the BLS household survey, part-time jobs fell 594,000 in September while full-time workers were up 691,000


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/myth-obamacare-causing-part-time-135441398.html


Although I welcome such good news, I will delay celebrating until February of 2014. Right now, retailers are adding work hours in preparation for the upcoming holiday season. Those work hours may be reduced after the holidays are over.


Yea, these "full time" positions may just be full time "seasonal" work.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 10/24/13 09:48 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 10/24/13 09:52 AM

This admin is such a bunch of liars, and their media releases can't be trusted to tell the truth, so I will believe my eyes, comments, and evidence before putting any stock in scripted numbers that are usually wrong to promote the liberal lies.

If they'll lie to congress do you think they have any problem pulling the wool over the peoples eyes?

With all the "evidence" available, scripted "facts" have very little truth to them as has been proven time and again!

msharmony's photo
Thu 10/24/13 03:17 PM
don't believe anything printed,, good advice


willowdraga's photo
Thu 10/24/13 03:59 PM
LOL Now Harmony you didn't expect the truth to fly well with this group now did you?

andrewzooms's photo
Thu 10/24/13 05:03 PM
Liberal logic. Democrat or Republican Politicians do not care about the People! The Unemployment rate could be 0 it would not matter. No livable wage jobs in the Private Sector created under Obama.

Right now, more than 100 million Americans are enrolled in at least one welfare program run by the federal government. And that does not even count Social Security or Medicare

The bottom 50 percent of American households held just 1.1. percent of the nation's wealth in 2010

n the United States today, 77 percent of all Americans are living to paycheck to paycheck at least some of the time.

83 percent of all U.S. stocks are in the hands of 1 percent of the people

According to Forbes, the 400 wealthiest Americans now have more wealth than the bottom 150 million Americans