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Two things I take from his experience
1. IT is scary that someone with a gun has the upperhand to decide to beat or shoot you, just by claiming you 'reached' for it. How does one prove or disprove whether they 'reached' for something? 2.It is effective to not only TAPE incidents like these, but to SUE< SUE<SUE where injustice may not make some take note, hitting their pocketbooks certainly will,,, |
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and here is the story:
DENVER -- The parents of Michael Brown told CBS News' Mark Strassmann they'd had a conversation with their son about how to deal with police. They say they told him to respect and obey police officers. Many parents of black children have had the same talk. But it is not one that Alex Landau's parents thought they needed to have with him. Landau vividly recalls the night five years ago when a traffic stop on a Denver street ended with an officer's gun at his head. "I could see the metal. I could see the officer's hand gripping the back strap. And that's when I expected to be shot," said Landau, adding it was "really emotional" to return to the scene of the incident. Police found marijuana on his passenger, who is white. They began searching the car. Landau said when he asked if they had a warrant, three white officers - one of whom was female - started beating him. Alex Landau after being beaten by police officers. When asked if he did something to threaten the police officers, he responded, "No, actually I was pinned to a position where I couldn't even move. ... I hear an officer shout, 'He's reaching for her gun. He's reaching for her gun.' All I could do was say, 'No, I'm not. I'm not reaching for anything.'" He expected to die that night. The beating required 45 stitches, left him with a concussion and a traumatic brain injury. Landau said the only thing worse than the beating was hearing the screams of his mother, Patsy Hathaway, when she saw him. "I still cry. I still get ... angry outta nowhere," says Hathaway. "People don't understand: a beating like this traumatizes a family for years. Patsy Hathaway quit her job to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. CBS News Hathaway and her now ex-husband adopted Alex and his sister, Maya, when they were babies. As a white mother raising a black son, she never had "the talk" with her son - the talk many black parents have about encounters with police. "I was terribly uneducated about all of this. And I learned the very, very hard way, when they almost killed him. ... The problem is racism." None of the officers were prosecuted or disciplined in the Landau case. However, Landau did receive $800,000 from the city of Denver. Two of the officers were later fired for lying about other beatings. One of those was captured on videotape. Hathaway quit her job as a teacher to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. "I never intended to spend this part of my life studying police brutality, but that's what has happened," said Hathaway. It's a new conversation for this family. But with Ferguson, Missouri, fresh on many minds, it is one millions of mothers and sons have every day. http://news.yahoo.com/thats-expected-shot-034912029.html 800,000 20 grand per stitch,, THAT will make it necessary for serious review and changes to that department,,,,and to take this kind of thing SERIOUSLY,,,, |
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Two things I take from his experience 1. IT is scary that someone with a gun has the upperhand to decide to beat or shoot you, just by claiming you 'reached' for it. How does one prove or disprove whether they 'reached' for something? 2.It is effective to not only TAPE incidents like these, but to SUE< SUE<SUE where injustice may not make some take note, hitting their pocketbooks certainly will,,, Your right. Officer Wilson should Sue, Sue, Sue Johnson, Sharpton, Jackson and all the others who have defamed his character. |
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and here is the story: DENVER -- The parents of Michael Brown told CBS News' Mark Strassmann they'd had a conversation with their son about how to deal with police. They say they told him to respect and obey police officers. Many parents of black children have had the same talk. But it is not one that Alex Landau's parents thought they needed to have with him. Landau vividly recalls the night five years ago when a traffic stop on a Denver street ended with an officer's gun at his head. "I could see the metal. I could see the officer's hand gripping the back strap. And that's when I expected to be shot," said Landau, adding it was "really emotional" to return to the scene of the incident. Police found marijuana on his passenger, who is white. They began searching the car. Landau said when he asked if they had a warrant, three white officers - one of whom was female - started beating him. Alex Landau after being beaten by police officers. When asked if he did something to threaten the police officers, he responded, "No, actually I was pinned to a position where I couldn't even move. ... I hear an officer shout, 'He's reaching for her gun. He's reaching for her gun.' All I could do was say, 'No, I'm not. I'm not reaching for anything.'" He expected to die that night. The beating required 45 stitches, left him with a concussion and a traumatic brain injury. Landau said the only thing worse than the beating was hearing the screams of his mother, Patsy Hathaway, when she saw him. "I still cry. I still get ... angry outta nowhere," says Hathaway. "People don't understand: a beating like this traumatizes a family for years. Patsy Hathaway quit her job to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. CBS News Hathaway and her now ex-husband adopted Alex and his sister, Maya, when they were babies. As a white mother raising a black son, she never had "the talk" with her son - the talk many black parents have about encounters with police. "I was terribly uneducated about all of this. And I learned the very, very hard way, when they almost killed him. ... The problem is racism." None of the officers were prosecuted or disciplined in the Landau case. However, Landau did receive $800,000 from the city of Denver. Two of the officers were later fired for lying about other beatings. One of those was captured on videotape. Hathaway quit her job as a teacher to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. "I never intended to spend this part of my life studying police brutality, but that's what has happened," said Hathaway. It's a new conversation for this family. But with Ferguson, Missouri, fresh on many minds, it is one millions of mothers and sons have every day. http://news.yahoo.com/thats-expected-shot-034912029.html 800,000 20 grand per stitch,, THAT will make it necessary for serious review and changes to that department,,,,and to take this kind of thing SERIOUSLY,,,, Just like he respected the law by stealing, or respecting the little old man who was attempting to get his merchandise back who got knocked around by the THUG? |
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They're need to suck it up and realize their brat was a thug.
Pull up them big girl panties and get over it. |
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They're need to suck it up and realize their brat was a thug. Pull up them big girl panties and get over it. Not to mention before the Officer realized he was the suspect in a Robbery he was committing several crimes. Blocking traffic, Jaywalking, Obeying a lawful order, resisting arrest, Battery with Serious Bodily Harm. I know if a cop requests me to do something my response is "Yes Sir". If I feel it's unlawful, that is what a watch commander (Sgt., LT. or CPT.) is for and if that goes no where then I go to the State Attorney General. These two thugs were trying to be dmart a$$ hard a$$es. |
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I think one of the problems is that the juveniles learn to get away with being a thug while they are very young. One day they of legally of age and it doesn't work anymore.
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Two things I take from his experience 1. IT is scary that someone with a gun has the upperhand to decide to beat or shoot you, just by claiming you 'reached' for it. How does one prove or disprove whether they 'reached' for something? 2.It is effective to not only TAPE incidents like these, but to SUE< SUE<SUE where injustice may not make some take note, hitting their pocketbooks certainly will,,, Your right. Officer Wilson should Sue, Sue, Sue Johnson, Sharpton, Jackson and all the others who have defamed his character. there is no legal cause for defamation,, no 'false' claims were made against the officer,,,, |
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oh, nevermind. Just go ahead and make a case for more gun control.
Skeery. 
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and here is the story: DENVER -- The parents of Michael Brown told CBS News' Mark Strassmann they'd had a conversation with their son about how to deal with police. They say they told him to respect and obey police officers. Many parents of black children have had the same talk. But it is not one that Alex Landau's parents thought they needed to have with him. Landau vividly recalls the night five years ago when a traffic stop on a Denver street ended with an officer's gun at his head. "I could see the metal. I could see the officer's hand gripping the back strap. And that's when I expected to be shot," said Landau, adding it was "really emotional" to return to the scene of the incident. Police found marijuana on his passenger, who is white. They began searching the car. Landau said when he asked if they had a warrant, three white officers - one of whom was female - started beating him. Alex Landau after being beaten by police officers. When asked if he did something to threaten the police officers, he responded, "No, actually I was pinned to a position where I couldn't even move. ... I hear an officer shout, 'He's reaching for her gun. He's reaching for her gun.' All I could do was say, 'No, I'm not. I'm not reaching for anything.'" He expected to die that night. The beating required 45 stitches, left him with a concussion and a traumatic brain injury. Landau said the only thing worse than the beating was hearing the screams of his mother, Patsy Hathaway, when she saw him. "I still cry. I still get ... angry outta nowhere," says Hathaway. "People don't understand: a beating like this traumatizes a family for years. Patsy Hathaway quit her job to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. CBS News Hathaway and her now ex-husband adopted Alex and his sister, Maya, when they were babies. As a white mother raising a black son, she never had "the talk" with her son - the talk many black parents have about encounters with police. "I was terribly uneducated about all of this. And I learned the very, very hard way, when they almost killed him. ... The problem is racism." None of the officers were prosecuted or disciplined in the Landau case. However, Landau did receive $800,000 from the city of Denver. Two of the officers were later fired for lying about other beatings. One of those was captured on videotape. Hathaway quit her job as a teacher to join her son's fight against racial profiling and excessive force. "I never intended to spend this part of my life studying police brutality, but that's what has happened," said Hathaway. It's a new conversation for this family. But with Ferguson, Missouri, fresh on many minds, it is one millions of mothers and sons have every day. http://news.yahoo.com/thats-expected-shot-034912029.html 800,000 20 grand per stitch,, THAT will make it necessary for serious review and changes to that department,,,,and to take this kind of thing SERIOUSLY,,,, Just like he respected the law by stealing, or respecting the little old man who was attempting to get his merchandise back who got knocked around by the THUG? well , there is civil law and criminal law to handle theft between individuals there are LAWSUITS to handle business, or entities that have caused harm ,,,, THIS CASE , the suit was won,,,it was brought by an INDIVIDUAL who was the victim of EXCESSIVE force and obstruction of rights by members represtenting the police department,,, |
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They're need to suck it up and realize their brat was a thug. Pull up them big girl panties and get over it. Not to mention before the Officer realized he was the suspect in a Robbery he was committing several crimes. Blocking traffic, Jaywalking, Obeying a lawful order, resisting arrest, Battery with Serious Bodily Harm. I know if a cop requests me to do something my response is "Yes Sir". If I feel it's unlawful, that is what a watch commander (Sgt., LT. or CPT.) is for and if that goes no where then I go to the State Attorney General. These two thugs were trying to be dmart a$$ hard a$$es. THIS ARTICLE IS ABOUT A MAN NAMED LANDAU, who was beaten to the point of being HOSPITALIZED (photos and documents actually VERIFYING that fact too,,,lol) this thread is not about the Brown Case,, but about excessive force by police, which DOES HAPPEN and should be recorded and litigated,,,, |
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oh, nevermind. Just go ahead and make a case for more gun control. Skeery. this thread is also not about gun control, the man was BEATEN by cops and hospitalized as opposed to just visiting a hospital,,,lol, he SUED and won,,,, |
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oh, nevermind. Just go ahead and make a case for more gun control. Skeery. this thread is also not about gun control, the man was BEATEN by cops and hospitalized as opposed to just visiting a hospital,,,lol, he SUED and won,,,, I know. My brother was also beaten recently in West Allis, Wisc. by West Allis Cops. Our father was a cop. 4 Neighbors watched as they beat my 6'3" brother with batons on his front steps of his house....for keeping his vicious dogs inside the house from attacking said cops, and not letting my ADHD nephew out to be screamed at by said cops for somebody else's fire cracker going off in the scum bag neighbor HOOD. He is suing with a prominent Attorney that usually wins these cases. 
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And I hope he puts a real dent in their pocketbook,,,good luck
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Edited by
fleta_n_mach
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Tue 08/26/14 11:18 PM
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I hope so too.
It's a sad shame that we were proud of our father, only to have this happen to my brother, and realize that this is now a police state situation.....everywhere. It's not like it was 25 years ago. Definitely not. Correct Way to Handle the Police at a Stop |
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I hope so too. It's a sad shame that we were proud of our father, only to have this happen to my brother, and realize that this is now a police state situation.....everywhere. It's not like it was 25 years ago. Definitely not. Correct Way to Handle the Police at a Stop actually it was just like this 25 yrs ago, but no one believed it..., It is old news. Now people are finally starting to see that when you label someone "law enforcement, give them a badge, a row of guns, mace, tazers, and a police radio, and no recourse for thier actions, that you get what we have now.. ( and have had). |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 08/27/14 07:02 AM
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yep, it was this way 25 years ago
my brother had cops pull in OUR DRIVEWAY, GUNS DRAWN, because he was visiting from college and playing with our dog in the front yard but neighbors didn't recognize him and called police at his own home,, he had guns drawn on him, even though he was unarmed and IN HIS OWN YARD,,,,think about that? if my dog hadn't been so well trained to obey, he could have attacked the threat and ended up dead,,, its too much,, better training in community RELATIONS and DEESCALATING questionable and confrontational situations is not going to hurt for sure |
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It's called forensic pathology. And what would your reaction be in the same situation? I'm tired of people jumping to conclusions before the evidence is in...and tear down your own city? What does that accomplish?!
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It's called forensic pathology. And what would your reaction be in the same situation? I'm tired of people jumping to conclusions before the evidence is in...and tear down your own city? What does that accomplish?! why the defensiveness? Im aware what forensic pathology is. More need to be aware of media spin and disparity and the NON TRANSPARENCY of those who are paid or elected to represent or protect us. Its not just about this mans reaction, its about the relations between police and the community in that town(and many others, quite frankly),,,, and the way these things are glossed over when the accused have some type of position or badge. IM tired of the conclusions too,, like the one where this unarmed man was justifiably killed due to being a 'thug', or like that he did so much damage to the officer that there was an 'orbital socket blowout' there has in reality been NO EVIDENCE whatsoever about this viscious BEATING,,,,that allegedly was reason to fear for his life,,, but, I just don't know why I keep trying to explain to those who continue to just believe this is about Wilson vs Brown,,, |
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Edited by
TJN
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Wed 08/27/14 09:28 AM
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Why didn't he just use a tazer?
Maybe because they don't always work. Good thing there was more than one cop there. How many tazers would be considered excessive? https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=904803882866429&id=100000104773706 |
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