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Topic: Hero Who Killed Bin Laden Comes Forward
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Tue 11/11/14 08:57 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Tue 11/11/14 08:57 PM
The former Navy SEAL who shot and killed Usama bin Laden told Fox News Peter Doocy in an exclusive interview that the elite team who took out the terrorist believed that it was ��going to be a one-way mission," but it would be "worth it to kill him."

In part one of The Man Who Killed Usama bin Laden," Rob O'��Neill described how he went from a kid growing up in Butte, Montana to become the highly-trained SEAL who pulled the trigger in the famous mission at bin Laden's compound in Pakistan in 2011.

O'Neill, who rose up in the ranks to become a member of the Navy's elite SEAL Team 6, had previously been a part of missions such as the rescue of the crew of the Maersk Alabama from Somali pirates, which was depicted in the movie "Captain Phillips."

He described to Doocy how he discovered he was embarking on the mission to kill bin Laden.

“They told us a couple of things like we’re going to read you in eventually and here’s whose going to be there…and they said a few names that didn’t make sense,” O’Neill said. “A few of us were talking a couple days later about this person, this person why would they be there… It’s bin Laden…they found him…we’re going to go get him.”

O’Neill said he and the other SEALs did not think they would survive the mission.

“The more we trained on it, the more we realized…this is going to be a one-way mission,” he said. “We’re going to go and we’re not going to come back. We’re going to die when the house blows up. We’re going to die when he blows up. Or we are going to be there too long and we’ll get arrested by the Pakistanis and we’re going to spend the rest of our short lives in Pakistan prison.”

Despite the risks, O'Neill said he did not hope that President Obama would choose another tactic to take out bin Laden, and he even pushed to become a part of the group that landed on the roof of the compound.

He said that the soldiers felt that the mission would be worth sacrificing their own lives, saying "we are going to die eventually, this is a good way to go and it's worth it to kill him. He's going to die with us."

"To be part of something so historic, you can't ask for more...we wanted it bad," he said. "It's it. It doesn’t get any better. This is it this is why we're here. We are at war because of this guy and now we are going to go get him."

O'Neill said he believes he was "definitely" the last person bin Laden saw before he died, and he has thought about the mission every day in the years since it happened.

"I’m still trying to figure out if it’s the best thing I’ve ever done or the worst thing I’ve ever done," he said.

Watch Fox News Wednesday at 10:00 p.m. ET for Part Two of ��The Man Who Killed Usama bin Laden

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/11/navy-seal-who-shot-usama-bin-laden-revealed-in-exclusive-fox-news-interview/

That's how much faith he and the other SEALS had\have in the Obama administration. He thought they were sending them into a suicide mission.

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Tue 11/11/14 09:46 PM
SEALS are not panty wastes , they sign on for these risks, just like secret service

the job got done and they were proud to be a part of it,, so why again does it become a way to disparage OBAMA?....smh

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Tue 11/11/14 10:17 PM
My son just finished up 7 1/2 years in the Marine Corp and trained along side Seals teams. I have met both Navy seals and Marine Corp special forces when I have visited my son on base.

And I can assure you this, they could care less who is in the white house ( Rep. or Dem) when they get their orders. They take their orders from their commander and then they carry out those orders knowing full well that they may or may not make it home.

I don't agree with our President on many many things. But OUR president made the right call and OUR men did what they are trained to do.. this time they all came home... Thank God

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Tue 11/11/14 10:24 PM

SEALS are not panty wastes , they sign on for these risks, just like secret service

the job got done and they were proud to be a part of it,, so why again does it become a way to disparage OBAMA?....smh


yea, come on, give Joe Biden some too.bigsmile

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Wed 11/12/14 12:30 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Wed 11/12/14 12:34 AM


SEALS are not panty wastes , they sign on for these risks, just like secret service

the job got done and they were proud to be a part of it,, so why again does it become a way to disparage OBAMA?....smh


yea, come on, give Joe Biden some too.bigsmile

well,here you go then!

laugh

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Wed 11/12/14 08:09 AM



SEALS are not panty wastes , they sign on for these risks, just like secret service

the job got done and they were proud to be a part of it,, so why again does it become a way to disparage OBAMA?....smh


yea, come on, give Joe Biden some too.bigsmile

well,here you go then!

laugh



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Wed 11/12/14 02:00 PM

SEALS are not panty wastes , they sign on for these risks, just like secret service

the job got done and they were proud to be a part of it,, so why again does it become a way to disparage OBAMA?....smh


This^^^.

All of our elite teams are trained for what could very well be "suicide missions"; when executed perfectly, they aren't.

So, this guy's a hero, but the Commander-in-Chief who gave the red light to the plan is a bum?






Oh. Wait. Wasn't the previous spin that bin Laden had never been trapped/killed and it was all a big ruse on the part of our POTUS to garner favor with the American public?

NOW, all of a sudden, bin Laden really WAS killed?!?




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Thu 11/13/14 04:40 AM
Sorry to get side tracked, but, SEAL Team 6 is not a real thing. It's called DEVGRU or Naval Special Warfare Development Group. It was nicknamed SEAL Team 6 as a way to trick enemies into thinking we had more SEAL teams than we do.

Also, yes many joked about getting Obama reelected. And yes it was a political ploy as the team who tracked down Bin Laden (which was started right after 9/11) just wanted to bomb the compound (this would have been much safer).

I believe republicans would have been just as quick to mark this under their "achievements" as politics is all about winning popularity contests.

Endless credit is due to the team performing the operation, and very little (note: i did not say "none") should be given to those sitting behind a desk just giving the "ok". Unfortunately this is how our military works.

Seen several operations blown by people trying to take credit for it. This includes going after the man who beheaded one of our marines (and I believe a civilian contractor) back in the 2004 time-frame. Politicians have no place on the battlefield.

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Thu 11/13/14 07:23 AM

Sorry to get side tracked, but, SEAL Team 6 is not a real thing. It's called DEVGRU or Naval Special Warfare Development Group. It was nicknamed SEAL Team 6 as a way to trick enemies into thinking we had more SEAL teams than we do.

Also, yes many joked about getting Obama reelected. And yes it was a political ploy as the team who tracked down Bin Laden (which was started right after 9/11) just wanted to bomb the compound (this would have been much safer).

I believe republicans would have been just as quick to mark this under their "achievements" as politics is all about winning popularity contests.

Endless credit is due to the team performing the operation, and very little (note: i did not say "none") should be given to those sitting behind a desk just giving the "ok". Unfortunately this is how our military works.

Seen several operations blown by people trying to take credit for it. This includes going after the man who beheaded one of our marines (and I believe a civilian contractor) back in the 2004 time-frame. Politicians have no place on the battlefield.


You'll want to take it up with the creators and defenders (past and present) of the Constitution, then; it states that the POTUS is the Commander-in-Chief of ALL the Armed Forces...including each team's elite players.



Also, I believe by mere definition of the term, any POTUS - whether red or blue - IS "a politician"; ergo, Constitutionally-speaking, politicians (including those in Congress) WILL have a "place on the battlefield"


"whether we like it or not".

drinks

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Thu 11/13/14 08:01 AM
I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.

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Thu 11/13/14 09:22 AM

Sorry to get side tracked, but, SEAL Team 6 is not a real thing. It's called DEVGRU or Naval Special Warfare Development Group. It was nicknamed SEAL Team 6 as a way to trick enemies into thinking we had more SEAL teams than we do.

Also, yes many joked about getting Obama reelected. And yes it was a political ploy as the team who tracked down Bin Laden (which was started right after 9/11) just wanted to bomb the compound (this would have been much safer).

I believe republicans would have been just as quick to mark this under their "achievements" as politics is all about winning popularity contests.

Endless credit is due to the team performing the operation, and very little (note: i did not say "none") should be given to those sitting behind a desk just giving the "ok". Unfortunately this is how our military works.

Seen several operations blown by people trying to take credit for it. This includes going after the man who beheaded one of our marines (and I believe a civilian contractor) back in the 2004 time-frame. Politicians have no place on the battlefield.

Operations don't so much "get blown",
by people trying to assume credit AFTER the fact, as they "get blown" by idiots blasting information pertinent to ongoing and future operations.

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Thu 11/13/14 10:12 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 11/13/14 10:40 AM


Sorry to get side tracked, but, SEAL Team 6 is not a real thing. It's called DEVGRU or Naval Special Warfare Development Group. It was nicknamed SEAL Team 6 as a way to trick enemies into thinking we had more SEAL teams than we do.

Also, yes many joked about getting Obama reelected. And yes it was a political ploy as the team who tracked down Bin Laden (which was started right after 9/11) just wanted to bomb the compound (this would have been much safer).

I believe republicans would have been just as quick to mark this under their "achievements" as politics is all about winning popularity contests.

Endless credit is due to the team performing the operation, and very little (note: i did not say "none") should be given to those sitting behind a desk just giving the "ok". Unfortunately this is how our military works.

Seen several operations blown by people trying to take credit for it. This includes going after the man who beheaded one of our marines (and I believe a civilian contractor) back in the 2004 time-frame. Politicians have no place on the battlefield.

Operations don't so much "get blown",
by people trying to assume credit AFTER the fact, as they "get blown" by idiots blasting information pertinent to ongoing and future operations.


You are correct as well.

Here's what I was talking about though; Hot intel comes out. We devise a plan and are ready to go in 30 min. Get a call to hold off just before leaving the gate, where we wait several house for some brass to fly out from his cushy desk. Target no longer on site by the time we get there. Then we get reamed over every tiny little detail (Why did we kick over a refrigerator to clear the "red zone" behind it instead of pie-ing the corner) as though the fault of the unsuccessful op remained with the operators.

Definition of "blown" may be used loosely, but the bitterness still remains with the notion of political leaders putting lives at risk to further careers instead of get jobs done.

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Thu 11/13/14 10:34 AM


Sorry to get side tracked, but, SEAL Team 6 is not a real thing. It's called DEVGRU or Naval Special Warfare Development Group. It was nicknamed SEAL Team 6 as a way to trick enemies into thinking we had more SEAL teams than we do.

Also, yes many joked about getting Obama reelected. And yes it was a political ploy as the team who tracked down Bin Laden (which was started right after 9/11) just wanted to bomb the compound (this would have been much safer).

I believe republicans would have been just as quick to mark this under their "achievements" as politics is all about winning popularity contests.

Endless credit is due to the team performing the operation, and very little (note: i did not say "none") should be given to those sitting behind a desk just giving the "ok". Unfortunately this is how our military works.

Seen several operations blown by people trying to take credit for it. This includes going after the man who beheaded one of our marines (and I believe a civilian contractor) back in the 2004 time-frame. Politicians have no place on the battlefield.


You'll want to take it up with the creators and defenders (past and present) of the Constitution, then; it states that the POTUS is the Commander-in-Chief of ALL the Armed Forces...including each team's elite players.



Also, I believe by mere definition of the term, any POTUS - whether red or blue - IS "a politician"; ergo, Constitutionally-speaking, politicians (including those in Congress) WILL have a "place on the battlefield"


"whether we like it or not".

drinks


The only place a politician should have on the battlefield is in the declaration of war.

But please note: "Should" and "do" are two very different concepts.

Problem is, politicians tie the hands of soldiers on the ground for popularity purposes. I will bring an example during vietnam. I had a cousin who was force recon during the war. Took one of those infamous "hills" we keep hearing about. But in order to be diplomatic politicians ordered the retreat to comply with "peace talks", which everyone knew after the first, that the VC and NVA merely used as a method to advance positions unhindered. Cousin was killed retaking the same hill for the 3rd time.

Another example can be given of ROE during operation Iraqi freedom; We were, for a period of time, ordered to NOT RETURN FIRE if being fired upon from a mosque. This was because politicians didn't want to anger the population. Again, population didn't care, and enemies used this to their advantage.

Also, i would like to add that i mentioned the ones giving the "ok" are due SOME credit. They just seem to get most of it. It took no skill and little courage, merely the ability to speak and desire to look good politically to give the green light on the Bin Laden raid. Glad he did though. Especially at the risk of angering Pakistan.

Again, I realize I am a bit off topic here, just off on a rant. My apologies.

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Thu 11/13/14 10:52 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Thu 11/13/14 10:54 AM
Now in response to the OP...

You never expect to survive missions you are sent on. Especially one as high profile as this. This was just as true under the Bush administration as it was under Obama. Heck, part of the adjustment from coming home after fighting is accepting that you survived. "You have to be ready to die in order to focus on the mission at hand."

If I understand correctly their orders were to go into Pakistan with no backing from air support and no large-scale QRF. (This was to delay Pakistan from sending their army in response to what they could view as an invasion.) They had to take out a high profile target that had been on the run for a decade, so there was reason to believe in a heavy resistance. They were also on a time-frame as the Pakistani military would respond at some point, which would have made the fight impossible, which leaves little "wiggle room" for unknowns.

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Thu 11/13/14 11:03 AM

I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.


To answer your question, he can talk about this because it was a high profile Op. If it were a "black op" we wouldn't hear anything about Bin Laden being killed, and there wouldn't be books published about the raid. There was no classified information given.

Generally speaking, you have Delta force head the mission if you want to keep it quiet, and DEVGRU head the mission if you don't. May seem silly but Delta doesn't "officially exist" even though everyone knows it's there. The two units support each other, however, on most missions they undertake, and they are both quite interchangeable when it comes to their operators. Seldom will brass just send one unit anymore. Air Force, Army, Navy, Marines, all have spec ops units that often support each other (despite all their trash talking).

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Thu 11/13/14 11:43 AM

I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.



He hasn't been cleared to discuss it. He - and others - were specifically directed NOT to; they were reminded of the duty-to-silence, again. Top officials are quite upset about it. He, himself, fears for his personal safety.

While he alludes to them all, he doesn't specifically say if he fears angry ex-military teammates, his ex-top brass, or the angry insurgents whose leader he killed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seal-who-says-he-shot-osama-thinks-his-life-is-in-danger-2014-11


drinks

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Thu 11/13/14 06:23 PM

I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.


I have a similar party close to me,, and I was thinking the same thing,,,,,flowerforyou

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Thu 11/13/14 06:53 PM
I have never understood why anyone would use the mission to kill bin Laden as an excuse to criticize President Obama.

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Thu 11/13/14 07:00 PM


I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.



He hasn't been cleared to discuss it. He - and others - were specifically directed NOT to; they were reminded of the duty-to-silence, again. Top officials are quite upset about it. He, himself, fears for his personal safety.

While he alludes to them all, he doesn't specifically say if he fears angry ex-military teammates, his ex-top brass, or the angry insurgents whose leader he killed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/seal-who-says-he-shot-osama-thinks-his-life-is-in-danger-2014-11


drinks


They are basically assassins....I don't think you get out of that while talking....the man I knew is gawd damned paranoid and he walks on eggshells. He's also dying from kidney failure from being exposed to depleted uranium.


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Thu 11/13/14 07:09 PM
Edited by fleta_n_mach on Thu 11/13/14 07:09 PM


I don't understand how this seal can even be released to speak about this.

I had a friend who is close by, he was elite ARMY and NAVY and a seal, and Black OPS. Not very many men can rise to that. He can not speak about anything he did, or assassinations they did. It was his job, being govt military property. Every mission was a suicide mission. They all understand this.

This seems odd that this will be released.


To answer your question, he can talk about this because it was a high profile Op. If it were a "black op" we wouldn't hear anything about Bin Laden being killed, and there wouldn't be books published about the raid. There was no classified information given.

Generally speaking, you have Delta force head the mission if you want to keep it quiet, and DEVGRU head the mission if you don't. May seem silly but Delta doesn't "officially exist" even though everyone knows it's there. The two units support each other, however, on most missions they undertake, and they are both quite interchangeable when it comes to their operators. Seldom will brass just send one unit anymore. Air Force, Army, Navy, Marines, all have spec ops units that often support each other (despite all their trash talking).


Yup. He only said, that he always went first, with more experience.

Still, I'd be leary of what you say, as in publicly.

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