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Topic: Where's the protest? Will it be about race again?
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 12/03/14 01:42 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/03/14 01:56 PM

Breaking: NYPD Officer Not Indicted In Death Of Eric Garner

Will Holder crack down on the continual brutality of the NYPD, which is out of control, or only in areas not under liberal Demoncrapic leadership?

Killed over selling "loose cigarettes"! Of course Sharpie is on the scene to cloud the issue and make it about racial injustice rather than policy and laws

New York - The New York Post is reporting that a grand jury has declined to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo, the NYPD officer who was caught on video placing Eric Garner in a choke hold in July following accusations against Garner over alleged sales of loose cigarettes.

Garner, 43, died shortly after his altercation with Pantaleo and was heard on amateur video yelling "I can’t breathe" as Pantaleo placed him in a hold that was classified as a choke hold, which is a forbidden hold to use in the NYPD.

http://benswann.com/breaking-nypd-officer-not-indicted-in-death-of-eric-garner/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

Let's talk about the militarization and tactics of police forces, laws and policy, rather than clouding the issue with race baiting..... what do you say?

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Wed 12/03/14 02:08 PM
I don't see this as a race issue. But I certainly see this as a injustice in which the NYPD should be held accountable. I do not agree with the Grand jury's decision today.

From what I saw, this man did not resist to the point where he had to be put into a (illegal) chokehold and taken to the ground. Then to add insult to injury, not afforded the proper medical care on the scene.

He was not a violent person doing a violent crime.. he was selling cigarettes... yes illegal.. but petty.

I feel that the NYPD would have used the same tactic regardless of the color of Mr. Garners skin as they have a history of heavy handed tactics. I saw a lot of it growing up there.

Eric Garner did not deserve to die that day and I believe the police officer, police department and city of New York need to be held accountable for this.

I am also not bashing the police department.. but what's right is right and what's wrong... is wrong.. and in my opinion what happened was just plain wrong.



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Wed 12/03/14 02:37 PM
I believe this was a criminal act. If four cops can't subdue a suspect you follow him until you have enough cops on scene to make the arrest.

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Wed 12/03/14 03:27 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 12/03/14 03:32 PM

Yep! The NYPD can now get away with murder..... that's what happens when they take away the guns of the citizens or the right to carry them. "Stop and frisk" has gone to a whole new level. Soon you'll need papers to go across town

What is anyone going to do? Take them to court? laugh

But I did speak too soon. Ole Sharpies working up his best blame whitey speeches and inciting disorder!

It's getting close to Christmas and he needs money for the holidays!

He should do well with everyone still worked up over Ferguson. Won't take much get the kettle brewing in NY!

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Wed 12/03/14 03:53 PM
I believe that this case calls for peaceful protests ...

... and, if I am not mistaken, there already have been peaceful protests.

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Wed 12/03/14 04:41 PM
I would love to hear the justification for this officer's actions.

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Wed 12/03/14 04:42 PM
Edited by funkyfranky on Wed 12/03/14 04:44 PM
Let's talk about the militarization and tactics of police forces, laws and policy, rather than clouding the issue with race baiting..... what do you say?


I wonder what our resident racist will have to say about that. No doubt SHE will throw her two penny worth into the mix

Dodo_David's photo
Wed 12/03/14 05:04 PM

I would love to hear the justification for this officer's actions.


Oh, so you like fiction. :tongue:

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Wed 12/03/14 06:52 PM
at this point, a well bred narcissistic breeding of society has created narcissistic mentalities in love with but their own opinions on all matters, somehow believing the illusion as the blind do that these shall change what happens today or to tomorrow in the world, for them self or anyone else.

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Wed 12/03/14 06:56 PM

at this point, a well bred narcissistic breeding of society has created narcissistic mentalities in love with but their own opinions on all matters, somehow believing the illusion as the blind do that these shall change what happens today or to tomorrow in the world, for them self or anyone else.


offtopic

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Wed 12/03/14 07:01 PM


at this point, a well bred narcissistic breeding of society has created narcissistic mentalities in love with but their own opinions on all matters, somehow believing the illusion as the blind do that these shall change what happens today or to tomorrow in the world, for them self or anyone else.


offtopic


you wish

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Wed 12/03/14 07:10 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Wed 12/03/14 07:42 PM
That was like wow how much more do you need when you have a law that states no choke holds ... + if u notice right before they took him down he had his hands in the air ... and my goodness crushing his head also into the concrete along with still being in the choke hold ... and then died of results too ...

they have been trying to explain how to change the system becouse every one works with each other the law the judges the police ... this is why the police get off ... no black or white all the time this is just how our systems work ...


this is why it can not be fair ... to the victims ... and seems with these murders that where committed by the hands of police ... the victims crimes where some very minute crimes ...did these police have to make a quota for the day ... they seem so senseless to proceed with such force ...


they have already said cameras will not do a thing to change they had one being choked to death with a law of their own making and still did not indite them ...so understandable seems the cop are getting away with murder ... by the protesters keeping calm in showing others the wrongs with out the violence...


and believe they should see a change ... in our systems ... becouse the law an the police that are up holding our showing every one they can be broken from police actions ... really not sure how system can be changed ... but to get the trust back for the police ... something has to be changed ...


we cannot always blame the police which would be our first reaction but ...it is all in the system that is at fault ... and needs to change ... most all are looking to get the police off ... from our courts to the lawyers & judges ...

and what is even given to a grand jury... what to give not to give so these officers can get off ... their all just tampering with the juries confusing them and misleading them... and what I am saying is not new ...this is all being discuss right now by people and other lawyers ...



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Wed 12/03/14 11:08 PM

I believe that this case calls for peaceful protests ...

... and, if I am not mistaken, there already have been peaceful protests.



I agree, its out of control and there needs to be action taken to promote public safety instead of the carte blanche judge/jury/executioner role the police have been getting away with.

criminals should be brought to justice,, death is not justice.

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Thu 12/04/14 03:19 AM
I think the posters have proven their position that they do not agree with and will not tolerate injustice.... regardless of the color of ones skin.

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Thu 12/04/14 04:23 AM
death is not justice


Uh, you might want to rephrase that.

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Thu 12/04/14 04:49 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 12/04/14 05:01 AM


It has been stated that police have killed more Americans than both the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

A man in a wheelchair
Wielding a banana
A child with an airsoft pistol
A veteran when the wrong house was raided

How do we make them accountable when "The Law" is the culprit and the courts favor the "law officer"?

Perhaps a Tax Revolt is in order?

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Thu 12/04/14 05:05 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Thu 12/04/14 05:14 AM
Op in some cases its about race but also about other races also I heard last night those others like Latinos and other races in different parts of the cities ...some end in the same way ...know justice for the victims ... It has been over twenty yrs since a police officer has been convicted ... and the only way to possibly have justice in some of these cases are with (outside investigations)... becouse the city and all who work in it ...are to closely connected to have any reasonable judgment for their own officers in these cases and none for the victims ... thats part of the change that needs to happen ... people want to have faith in the system but with what has been happening they feel lost and they feel some did not get justice ...
which has been going on for yrs which is understandable ... but do hope they keep the peace in cities and they get the outside help they need an show other what peaceful support looks like ...

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Thu 12/04/14 05:10 AM


Breaking: NYPD Officer Not Indicted In Death Of Eric Garner

Will Holder crack down on the continual brutality of the NYPD, which is out of control, or only in areas not under liberal Demoncrapic leadership?

Killed over selling "loose cigarettes"! Of course Sharpie is on the scene to cloud the issue and make it about racial injustice rather than policy and laws

New York - The New York Post is reporting that a grand jury has declined to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo, the NYPD officer who was caught on video placing Eric Garner in a choke hold in July following accusations against Garner over alleged sales of loose cigarettes.

Garner, 43, died shortly after his altercation with Pantaleo and was heard on amateur video yelling "I can’t breathe" as Pantaleo placed him in a hold that was classified as a choke hold, which is a forbidden hold to use in the NYPD.

http://benswann.com/breaking-nypd-officer-not-indicted-in-death-of-eric-garner/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

Let's talk about the militarization and tactics of police forces, laws and policy, rather than clouding the issue with race baiting..... what do you say?


They should have give him a Citation,and leave it at that!
But selling some Cigarettes ain't even worth that Hassle!slaphead

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Thu 12/04/14 05:15 AM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Thu 12/04/14 05:21 AM



Breaking: NYPD Officer Not Indicted In Death Of Eric Garner

Will Holder crack down on the continual brutality of the NYPD, which is out of control, or only in areas not under liberal Demoncrapic leadership?

Killed over selling "loose cigarettes"! Of course Sharpie is on the scene to cloud the issue and make it about racial injustice rather than policy and laws

New York - The New York Post is reporting that a grand jury has declined to indict Officer Daniel Pantaleo, the NYPD officer who was caught on video placing Eric Garner in a choke hold in July following accusations against Garner over alleged sales of loose cigarettes.

Garner, 43, died shortly after his altercation with Pantaleo and was heard on amateur video yelling "I can’t breathe" as Pantaleo placed him in a hold that was classified as a choke hold, which is a forbidden hold to use in the NYPD.

http://benswann.com/breaking-nypd-officer-not-indicted-in-death-of-eric-garner/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=nl

Let's talk about the militarization and tactics of police forces, laws and policy, rather than clouding the issue with race baiting..... what do you say?


They should have give him a Citation,and leave it at that!
But selling some Cigarettes ain't even worth that Hassle!slaphead




I agree ... but part of their laws up their are stop and frisk but as in other cases police went to far and broke their own laws... no choke holds ...thats when it became murder ...

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Thu 12/04/14 05:16 AM
the entire police structure needs to be revisited nationwide. But the Government needs to be held accountable as well. After 9-11 they gave the police more power.

They also gave the police surplus military equipment to "fight" terrorism. But I do not believe the police are( or should be) trained and outfitted for this roll as it is a military and Government agency responsibility.

They ( Police) now think they are paramilitary... It is scary.

For instance, my local Police department ( town population of 60,000.. normal crime rate) received from the Government 2 grenade launchers post 9-11.

Now why the hell does my local police need grenade launchers????.

What's next... A Police Department tank rolling down Main St???

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