Topic: Do you miss it?
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Mon 04/06/15 07:49 AM




so its a health issue.
and i should take to the scalpel because i can not take care of myself, get checked every month, and control where i put my foreskin becauise i think with the small head instead of the big.

nah.
too smart for that, sorry.
I was born this way, and i shall die thuis way.
if the foreskin had no oppositive purpose, nature would not have given me one. simplez.

Finally a man with brains ..

And sure if it was decided for you men here when you were a kid, and have been brainwashed by your society ... You can't really help it, nor would you know what it would be like to be intact.

The health talk is total BS. If that were true all intact men would have a knob that was infected, total nonsense. Humans always tend to think they know better than nature, apparently even convinced themselves they know better than our Creator!?

And concerning health etc... then you could also argue us women would get yukked and get infections due to having labia. Hence arguing that we all should have them removed.

Total utter BS. Like I said earlier, if you'd grown up in a culture where they clip ppl's noses because it was full of snot and bacteria and believed to be redundant and unhealthy, you'd find normal people with noses unhygienic and ugly. But that doesn't mean that having a nose actually IS unhygienic, redundant or ugly. This comparison may seem over the top, but it is the exact same thing.
Everything on and in the human body is there for a reason, a well thought out reason. The human body is the most beautiful, delicate, fine tuned and thought out 'machine' in the universe. The foreskin is part of that creation.

Jews knowing what they're doing ... Don't agree with that either. Ancient customs and/or religion all come with one big major problem: they aren't contemporary. They may have been thought up thousands of years ago, maybe for a good reason back then, maybe even for just the one tribe. That reason may very well have had to do with hygiene back then, some countries being really hot and having no proper bathing facilities. But then you're basically back to medical reasons.
These reasons have become obsolete long time ago.

Anyways, enjoy your circumcised penises and beliefs. Just for clarification: I have nothing against men who have been circumcised, they can't help it, their choice was taken away from them. But I am against the conviction that it is the right thing to do. And very glad I live in a country where we get to keep our bodies intact! :tongue:


Sometimes makes me wonder just how much sensation these men have lost. With media constantly on the hyper over dive with imaging etc in Western Countries keeping their thoughts about gratifications constantly too. Oh well, another thread.

Well, from what I understand the frenulum is mostly or completely removed and always damaged. And exactly that frenulum is what's sooooo incredibly sensitive!
Anyway, read what this guys says, circ'd himself:
"I bet most circumcisions take much or all of the frenulum. And without the ridged band it wouldn't feel the same. As I understand it, when you're intact, the entire penis including all of the parts function together, and the feelings are beyond amazing. We have about 1/4 of the nerves left, maybe experience a 3 out of 10. You can see men able to reach orgasm without touching the penis online. Good luck with that, or with coming from oral sex when you're older and circumcised. It's highly invasive surgery and we got hosed, there's no silver lining"

What I understand you can have it restored, but I suppose that wouldn't work anymore when you're quite a bit older? Once the skin has thickened a lot? But not sure... Not done research on that, just came across it on the forum from the link..

Source: http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10833


I don't believe lost nerves can be restored, crystal. That sounds like wishful thinking.

My crushed right foot nerves can not be repaired and they are still there, but damaged.

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Mon 04/06/15 08:10 AM
Edited by tealbreeze on Mon 04/06/15 08:11 AM
lmfao, Crystal, I have been secretly challenged to find and seek out research subjects for your claims. rofl rofl rofl

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Mon 04/06/15 08:21 AM

Pity we haven't heard from more European men on the subject. Here is an article on circumcision rates in the UK whch may be of interest. http://www.cirp.org/library/statistics/UK/

Also gives rates for Australia, New Zealand and the US if you go back to the index.



Quint, even though that was written in 2000, I did find that the doctor who performed the procedure on my son, did try dissuasion first, as does your article:

The British Medical Association (BMA) take the ethical position that doctors have a right to conscientiously object to the performance of non-therapeutic male circumcisions of children on moral, ethical, or legal grounds.6 The BMA consider male circumcision to be an invasive, radical procedure, and state that unless conservative treatments are tried first, a therapeutic circumcision would be unethical.

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 04/06/15 12:18 PM

lmfao, Crystal, I have been secretly challenged to find and seek out research subjects for your claims. rofl rofl rofl

You go girl!!!
:thumbsup: drinker

Justfun_1's photo
Mon 04/06/15 12:33 PM
I'm still feeling quite attached to mine and have never thought of having it removed.
It is quite cheap to have it removed privately,about �20...including tip laugh

panchovanilla's photo
Mon 04/06/15 12:52 PM




so its a health issue.
and i should take to the scalpel because i can not take care of myself, get checked every month, and control where i put my foreskin becauise i think with the small head instead of the big.

nah.
too smart for that, sorry.
I was born this way, and i shall die thuis way.
if the foreskin had no oppositive purpose, nature would not have given me one. simplez.

Finally a man with brains ..

And sure if it was decided for you men here when you were a kid, and have been brainwashed by your society ... You can't really help it, nor would you know what it would be like to be intact.

The health talk is total BS. If that were true all intact men would have a knob that was infected, total nonsense. Humans always tend to think they know better than nature, apparently even convinced themselves they know better than our Creator!?

And concerning health etc... then you could also argue us women would get yukked and get infections due to having labia. Hence arguing that we all should have them removed.

Total utter BS. Like I said earlier, if you'd grown up in a culture where they clip ppl's noses because it was full of snot and bacteria and believed to be redundant and unhealthy, you'd find normal people with noses unhygienic and ugly. But that doesn't mean that having a nose actually IS unhygienic, redundant or ugly. This comparison may seem over the top, but it is the exact same thing.
Everything on and in the human body is there for a reason, a well thought out reason. The human body is the most beautiful, delicate, fine tuned and thought out 'machine' in the universe. The foreskin is part of that creation.

Jews knowing what they're doing ... Don't agree with that either. Ancient customs and/or religion all come with one big major problem: they aren't contemporary. They may have been thought up thousands of years ago, maybe for a good reason back then, maybe even for just the one tribe. That reason may very well have had to do with hygiene back then, some countries being really hot and having no proper bathing facilities. But then you're basically back to medical reasons.
These reasons have become obsolete long time ago.

Anyways, enjoy your circumcised penises and beliefs. Just for clarification: I have nothing against men who have been circumcised, they can't help it, their choice was taken away from them. But I am against the conviction that it is the right thing to do. And very glad I live in a country where we get to keep our bodies intact! :tongue:


Sometimes makes me wonder just how much sensation these men have lost. With media constantly on the hyper over dive with imaging etc in Western Countries keeping their thoughts about gratifications constantly too. Oh well, another thread.

Well, from what I understand the frenulum is mostly or completely removed and always damaged. And exactly that frenulum is what's sooooo incredibly sensitive!
Anyway, read what this guys says, circ'd himself:
"I bet most circumcisions take much or all of the frenulum. And without the ridged band it wouldn't feel the same. As I understand it, when you're intact, the entire penis including all of the parts function together, and the feelings are beyond amazing. We have about 1/4 of the nerves left, maybe experience a 3 out of 10. You can see men able to reach orgasm without touching the penis online. Good luck with that, or with coming from oral sex when you're older and circumcised.
It's highly invasive surgery and we got hosed, there's no silver lining"

What I understand you can have it restored, but I suppose that wouldn't work anymore when you're quite a bit older? Once the skin has thickened a lot? But not sure... Not done research on that, just came across it on the forum from the link..

Source: http://www.foreskin-restoration.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10833

Hahahahahahaha..nonsense.
Or is it?
Possibly explains the "2 pump chump" syndrome.

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Mon 04/06/15 12:54 PM

I'm still feeling quite attached to mine and have never thought of having it removed.
It is quite cheap to have it removed privately,about �20...including tip laugh


no, no, keep that!

One out three men worldwide are circumcised....and do you know how difficult those things are to find over here in the US? blushing

panchovanilla's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:10 PM
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

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Mon 04/06/15 01:17 PM
Edited by tealbreeze on Mon 04/06/15 01:18 PM

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya


I pretty much believe that most of the data on pros and cons is a bit skewed.

Happiness had a link above that presented this on cancer:

Circumcision prevents penile cancer. The incidence of penile cancer is about 1 in 100,000 in the US. By one estimate, the lifetime risk for an uncircumcised man in the US is 1 in 600. The 5 year survival rate is about 65%. Penile cancer is almost never seen in circumcised men; such a case is unusual enough to be written up as a case report in a medical journal. In third world countries where hygiene is poorer and circumcision is less common, penile cancer causes up to 10% or 20% of cancers in men. Disgusting photos can be seen at http://www.circinfo.net/cancer_of_the_penis.html
The American Cancer Society thinks the studies showing reduced penile cancer rates were flawed because they failed to consider other factors that are now known to affect risk, such as smoking, personal hygiene, HPV infection, and multiple sexual partners. It concluded:

The current consensus of most experts is that circumcision should not be recommended as a prevention strategy for penile cancer.



I'm sure yours is exquisitely unique, panch....

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:22 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Mon 04/06/15 01:23 PM

I'm still feeling quite attached to mine and have never thought of having it removed.
It is quite cheap to have it removed privately,about �20...including tip laugh

Hahahaha, that must be in the back of the local curry restaurant?
This weeks special: Vindaloo & Circumcision - �20

Steer clear from them curry restaurants, I say! Go to the fish & chip shop! Dang, now I want fish & chips..

SitkaRains's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:23 PM

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

panchovanilla's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:28 PM


http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

Just trying to feel better about myself.:wink:
laugh

SitkaRains's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:29 PM



http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

Just trying to feel better about myself.:wink:
laugh

Need any help with that:angel:

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Mon 04/06/15 01:32 PM



http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

Just trying to feel better about myself.:wink:
laugh


laugh
We believe you! bigsmile


panchovanilla's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:39 PM




http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

Just trying to feel better about myself.:wink:
laugh

Need any help with that:angel:


Justfun_1's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:40 PM


I'm still feeling quite attached to mine and have never thought of having it removed.
It is quite cheap to have it removed privately,about �20...including tip laugh

Hahahaha, that must be in the back of the local curry restaurant?
This weeks special: Vindaloo & Circumcision - �20

Steer clear from them curry restaurants, I say! Go to the fish & chip shop! Dang, now I want fish & chips..
Fish and chips would be better.After the circumcision i would have something to use as bait to catch my own fish scared
I was going to mention the cheese and ham that i've had for breakfast the last few days in Holland,but someone else has already mentioned cheese on this thread laugh

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:41 PM



I'm still feeling quite attached to mine and have never thought of having it removed.
It is quite cheap to have it removed privately,about �20...including tip laugh

Hahahaha, that must be in the back of the local curry restaurant?
This weeks special: Vindaloo & Circumcision - �20

Steer clear from them curry restaurants, I say! Go to the fish & chip shop! Dang, now I want fish & chips..
Fish and chips would be better.After the circumcision i would have something to use as bait to catch my own fish scared
I was going to mention the cheese and ham that i've had for breakfast the last few days in Holland,but someone else has already mentioned cheese on this thread laugh

Oh that's right, you were in Holland .. I was wondering where you'd gone off to!
Don't tell me you've been in my area and not told me about it!!!
explode rant rant

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:43 PM
And how can you have NOT asked me to come and see you play?
tears tears tears tears
No backstage pass ... I'm very upset now!
tears tears tears

lionsbrew's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:45 PM
I can't say I miss mine or that I remember the pain from it since it was done at birth. Does sex feel any worse for me as a result? That I don't know but I highly doubt it. It still feels pretty damn awesome on my side o things and am not to worried about it.

SitkaRains's photo
Mon 04/06/15 01:46 PM





http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors

For example, men who are circumcised cannot develop the condition called phimosis, and cannot accumulate material known as smegma (see next section). Men with smegma or phimosis have an increased risk of penile cancer. The later a man is circumcised the more likely it is that one of these conditions will occur first. Also, circumcised men are less likely to get and stay infected with the human papilloma virus (HPV), even after accounting for differences in sexual behavior. Again, the later a man is circumcised, the more likely it is that he will be infected with HPV before the procedure.

So there.
Therefore, I rest my case.
And my disease free, fully functional, most exsquisite member.tongue2 nya nya

Well actually this is a moot point where you are concerned since, You have already stated you would have this done. What was the phrase
neat and tidy...

Just trying to feel better about myself.:wink:
laugh

Need any help with that:angel:



I was just offering to help scientifically is all. comparing the concepts of pro and not pro.:angel: