Topic: Gender Fluidity
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Sat 05/16/15 04:20 PM
Not a problem.
Through genetic engineering children should be given both parts. Then when they reach puberty they can choose which one to use.bigsmile

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Sat 05/16/15 05:31 PM
While not Fairfax VA, I remember this story from Nebraska.....

"" Nebraska school district has
instructed its teachers to stop
referring to students by “gendered
expressions” such as “boys and girls,”
and use “gender inclusive” ones such
as “purple penguins” instead.
“Don’t use phrases such as ‘boys and girls,’
‘you guys,’ ‘ladies and gentlemen,’ and
similarly gendered expressions to get kids’
attention,” instructs a training document
given to middle-school teachers at the
Lincoln Public Schools.
“Create classroom names and then ask all of
the ‘purple penguins’ to meet on the rug,” it
advises.
The document also warns against asking
students to “line up as boys or girls,” and
suggests asking them to line up by whether
they prefer “skateboards or bikes/milk or
juice/dogs or cats/summer or winter/talking
or listening.”
“Always ask yourself . . . ‘Will this
configuration create a gendered space?’” the
document says.
The instructions were part of a list called “12
steps on the way to gender inclusiveness”
developed by Gender Spectrum, an
organization that “provides education,
training and support to help create a gender
sensitive and inclusive environment for
children of all ages.”
Other items on the list include asking all
students about their preferred pronouns and
decorating the classroom with “all genders
welcome” door hangers.
If teachers still find it “necessary” to mention
that genders exist at all, the document
states, they must list them as “boy, girl, both
or neither.”
Furthermore, it instructs teachers to interfere
and interrupt if they ever hear a student
talking about gender in terms of “boys and
girls” so the student can learn that this is
wrong.
“Point out and inquire when you hear others
referencing gender in a binary manner,” it
states. “Ask things like . . . ‘What makes you
say that? I think of it a little differently.’
Provide counter-narratives that challenge
students to think more expansively about
their notions of gender.”
The teachers were also given a handout
created by the Center for Gender Sanity,
which explains to them that “Gender identity .
. . can’t be observed or measured, only
reported by the individual,” and an
infographic called “The Genderbred Person,”
which was produced by
www.ItsPronouncedMetroSexual.com .
Despite controversy, Lincoln Superintendent
Steve Joel has declared that he is “happy”
and “pleased” with the training documents.""
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389862/school-told-call-kids-purple-penguins-because-boys-and-girls-not-inclusive


As for Cananda.......and Im no expert by any means, there was this story:

"" “Xe,” “Xem” and “Xyr”: These are the words
that public schools in Vancouver have added
as gender-neutral additions to he/she, him/
her and his/hers.
The gender-neutral replacement pronouns
were approved by the school board Monday
as part of a policy to better support
transgender students, the Vancouver Sun
reported.
Supporters of the change waved pink and
blue flags, while the Sun reported opponents
labeled the school board as a “dictator” and
“liar.”
The addition to the pronoun debate, a more
heated topic in the last few school board
meetings — that of gender-neutral restrooms
in the schools — was passed as well.""

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/18/the-gender-neutral-pronouns-schools-in-vancouver-will-use-in-addition-to-he-and-she/

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Sat 05/16/15 05:42 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 05/16/15 06:30 PM
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Sat 05/16/15 06:06 PM
Edited by 2OLD2MESSAROUND on Sat 05/16/15 06:42 PM
Yes, as shocking as it is for many with the ingrained 'ADAM & EVE' biblical/incest {highly unlikely} DNA proven couldn't have happened - story line!
That medical science has now made advances into the parts of our brains that show where our 'GENDER' is developed when we are being formed in embryo; not when our genital is forming in embryo --- I can see where this would be a very - very scary 'NEW WAY' of thinking!
All new medical discoveries usually are; exactly why the 'FAITH' based medical teaching colleges were basically shoved to the outside of primary medical care; people wanted and deserved the 'NEW MEDICAL' techniques and wanted to LIVE LONGER then the prehistoric leaches and prayers that were still being applied by many of the bible thumpers!
Another source from the link within the link that SassyEuro provided: https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/about-us/

Come 2016, Fairfax County Public Schools will call for teaching seventh graders about the concept of being transgender. Sophomores would learn that sexuality ��is a broader spectrum�� and not as simple as male and female.

According to the district recommendations, ��Students will be provided definitions for sexual orientation terms heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality; and the gender identity term transgender. Emphasis will be placed on recognizing that everyone is experiencing changes and the role of respectful, inclusive language in promoting an environment free of bias and discrimination.��

http://www.inquisitr.com/2093558/gender-fluidity-schools-to-teach-theres-no-such-thing-as-boys-and-girls-columnist-warns/#biRrcDf8VJfXDrx8.99


BTW...the pledge of alligience is still used every day in public schools through out America; but if you don't believe in 'GOD' you can OPT OUT! It's what America allows :wink:

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Sat 05/16/15 06:21 PM
Edited by SassyEuro2 on Sat 05/16/15 06:24 PM


K now just show us a link, any link and we're good, I'll believe you.


This is the American one that says it starts in 2016


http://www.inquisitor.com/2093558/ gender&fluidudity-school-to-teach-there-is-no-such-such-thing-as-boys-and-girls-columnist-warns.


Seaching for Canada ones, never should of used a new cleaning app, but I will find it frustrated




CANADA -
.May 5,2015 by Rachel Brown
Thousands of Canadian Students Are Ditching Class In Protest of Their schools Sex Curriculum.

https://news.vice.com/article/thousands-of-canadian-students-are-ditching-class-to-protest-their-provinces-new-sex-ed-curriculume

Other

www.advcate.com>politics>2014/06/30

CBC.can>ca>news>canada>toronto

CBC.ca>ca>canada>British a Columbia

Winnipeg Free Press>canada>transgender

Other- USA

http://www.christianexaminer.com

implemented fall 2016

www.nbc. Washington.com>news>local

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Sat 05/16/15 06:53 PM
I truly believe if you take your eye off the ball and do not pay attention what is being taught to your child weather in public or private school or media then you are a fool as a parent.

Until Parents take their rightful place as the only true professionals and influencers in their children's lives then they will internalize any kind of crapola people want to put out there.

I remember when I went to school and saw a play area with rusty saw as a "toy" in a kindergarten class and having to go all the way up the chain to get it out of access to young kids and or property that could be damaged and it really open my eyes how absent "Common Sense " is in education.

Since when is "values" education the responsibility of teachers first and parents second? If you are teaching your kids their values and ideals from birth and re-enforcing it with day to day conversation they can basically ignore it as a fouled up source. Kids are much smarter than some of these ridiculous theories that are the "popular concept" and just ignore more of it than it is worth getting all worked up about. Think about it; how many of us still think that getting under your desk is going to protect you from a nuclear attack?

Fluid sexuality? Give me a break. For the majority human beings have a gender identity from a very early age unless someone messes around with it. Sure we are less rigid about which roles are male and female but it is hardly neutral or fluid. I don't care how people lie with statistics and studies. I have two grandsons in Virginia schools and I can tell you they would laugh at this kind of clap trap. Would they be politically correct to keep out of trouble in the classroom? Yea but they don't fart in class to impress their friends either.

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Sat 05/16/15 06:54 PM
Some schools in Vancouver are reported to be doing away with the old-fashioned pronouns "he" and "she" for their transgender pupils in favour of a new gender-neutral word, "xe".
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-27904621
******************

Wasn't there another topic/thread started on here with thid 'XE' as the title? Really unfortunate that we aren't able to do a 'SEARCH' prior to starting more topics of the same genre and we could combine them or MERGE them!

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Sat 05/16/15 06:55 PM

Yes, as shocking as it is for many with the ingrained 'ADAM & EVE' biblical/incest {highly unlikely} DNA proven couldn't have happened - story line!
That medical science has now made advances into the parts of our brains that show where our 'GENDER' is developed when we are being formed in embryo; not when our genital is forming in embryo --- I can see where this would be a very - very scary 'NEW WAY' of thinking!
All new medical discoveries usually are; exactly why the 'FAITH' based medical teaching colleges were basically shoved to the outside of primary medical care; people wanted and deserved the 'NEW MEDICAL' techniques and wanted to LIVE LONGER then the prehistoric leaches and prayers that were still being applied by many of the bible thumpers!
Another source from the link within the link that SassyEuro provided: https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/about-us/

Come 2016, Fairfax County Public Schools will call for teaching seventh graders about the concept of being transgender. Sophomores would learn that sexuality ��is a broader spectrum�� and not as simple as male and female.

According to the district recommendations, ��Students will be provided definitions for sexual orientation terms heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality; and the gender identity term transgender. Emphasis will be placed on recognizing that everyone is experiencing changes and the role of respectful, inclusive language in promoting an environment free of bias and discrimination.��

http://www.inquisitr.com/2093558/gender-fluidity-schools-to-teach-theres-no-such-thing-as-boys-and-girls-columnist-warns/#biRrcDf8VJfXDrx8.99


BTW...the pledge of alligience is still used every day in public schools through out America; but if you don't believe in 'GOD' you can OPT OUT! It's what America allows :wink:



Nope...I have NOT said it in school since 1968 ! It depends where you live for mandatory & if you can OPT out.

Do children day the Pledge of Allegiance daily at school.- NO

www.quota.com/Do-all-American-children-recite-the-pledge-of-Allegiance-daily-at-school

South Dakota- now saying yes

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4305825

Should it be in Arabic?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/news/pledge-of-allegiance-in-schools/

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Sat 05/16/15 06:55 PM

Yes, as shocking as it is for many with the ingrained 'ADAM & EVE' biblical/incest {highly unlikely} DNA proven couldn't have happened - story line!
That medical science has now made advances into the parts of our brains that show where our 'GENDER' is developed when we are being formed in embryo; not when our genital is forming in embryo --- I can see where this would be a very - very scary 'NEW WAY' of thinking!
All new medical discoveries usually are; exactly why the 'FAITH' based medical teaching colleges were basically shoved to the outside of primary medical care; people wanted and deserved the 'NEW MEDICAL' techniques and wanted to LIVE LONGER then the prehistoric leaches and prayers that were still being applied by many of the bible thumpers!
Another source from the link within the link that SassyEuro provided: https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/about-us/

Come 2016, Fairfax County Public Schools will call for teaching seventh graders about the concept of being transgender. Sophomores would learn that sexuality ��is a broader spectrum�� and not as simple as male and female.

According to the district recommendations, ��Students will be provided definitions for sexual orientation terms heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality; and the gender identity term transgender. Emphasis will be placed on recognizing that everyone is experiencing changes and the role of respectful, inclusive language in promoting an environment free of bias and discrimination.��

http://www.inquisitr.com/2093558/gender-fluidity-schools-to-teach-theres-no-such-thing-as-boys-and-girls-columnist-warns/#biRrcDf8VJfXDrx8.99


BTW...the pledge of alligience is still used every day in public schools through out America; but if you don't believe in 'GOD' you can OPT OUT! It's what America allows :wink:



Nope...I have NOT said it in school since 1968 ! It depends where you live for mandatory & if you can OPT out.

Do children day the Pledge of Allegiance daily at school.- NO

www.quota.com/Do-all-American-children-recite-the-pledge-of-Allegiance-daily-at-school

South Dakota- now saying yes

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4305825

Should it be in Arabic?

http://m.huffpost.com/us/news/pledge-of-allegiance-in-schools/

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Sat 05/16/15 07:09 PM



As a parent,
I'm glad this isn't an issue I had to deal with.




as a parent I would pull my children out of those classes

Mandatory curriculum. Not a class or choice. The parents found out in Canada... the Kindergarten... kids came hone, asking sex questions & some upset asking it they are a boy, girl or unisex. KINDERGARTEN

The parents were NOT asked permission or notified. And kindergarten kids were taught " THIRD SEX GENDER


I would not allow my kids to go. that's final. let them arrest me. there is nothing they can do to stop me from removing my children. I am a certified teacher and in the "know" :)

my youngest went to parochial school anyway. thank god....so again...I would remove my children

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Sat 05/16/15 07:09 PM



As a parent,
I'm glad this isn't an issue I had to deal with.




as a parent I would pull my children out of those classes

Mandatory curriculum. Not a class or choice. The parents found out in Canada... the Kindergarten... kids came hone, asking sex questions & some upset asking it they are a boy, girl or unisex. KINDERGARTEN

The parents were NOT asked permission or notified. And kindergarten kids were taught " THIRD SEX GENDER


I would not allow my kids to go. that's final. let them arrest me. there is nothing they can do to stop me from removing my children. I am a certified teacher and in the "know" :)

my youngest went to parochial school anyway. thank god....so again...I would remove my children

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Sat 05/16/15 07:10 PM

Some schools in Vancouver are reported to be doing away with the old-fashioned pronouns "he" and "she" for their transgender pupils in favour of a new gender-neutral word, "xe".
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-27904621
******************

Wasn't there another topic/thread started on here with thid 'XE' as the title? Really unfortunate that we aren't able to do a 'SEARCH' prior to starting more topics of the same genre and we could combine them or MERGE them!


" Xe ", pronounced zee?

Irony...

Sie, pronounced zee..
German for " her".
And, dependent on context,
Sie, is also German for "sir".

I seem to recall, hearing about
a rather infamous German chant,
circa 1930s and 1940s, that contained
the word " Sie " in it.

Xe/zee/sie..

Is this the dawning of the gay nazification
of the education systems?

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Sat 05/16/15 07:12 PM
The New Pledge of Allegiance Requirements for Nebraska

In 2008, eight states had no laws requiring students recite the Pledge of Allegiance at school. That number has recently dwindled to five, with Nebraska being the latest state to adopt a statewide mandate. 5 States are: Vermont, Oklahoma, Hawaii, Iowa, Wyoming.

In a unanimous 8-0 vote, the Nebraska State Board of Education voted for schools to have time set aside for students to pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States. Mark Quandahl, a member of the Nebraska State Board of Education and representative of District 2, said the decision was based on the fact that requirements such as these are nothing new; most states have them. “The inclusion of the requirement of the Pledge of Allegiance in the rules for the state of Nebraska is the right thing to do,” Quandahl said to TakePart.

Click through the gallery to find out the five states where kids don't have to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in schools.
http://www.takepart.com/photos/these-five-states-do-not-require-pledge-allegiance-schools/new-pledge-allegiance-requirements-Nebraska


Ah-haaaa, I stand corrected...had no idea that there were some states that didn't require it; I knew that private schools could opt out but not public schools! But here the difference from 'Federal - State'...now only 5 states remain without a requirement for our Flag Pledge!
Not to ole' to learn something new today! shocked

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Sat 05/16/15 07:13 PM



As a parent,
I'm glad this isn't an issue I had to deal with.




as a parent I would pull my children out of those classes

Mandatory curriculum. Not a class or choice. The parents found out in Canada... the Kindergarten... kids came hone, asking sex questions & some upset asking it they are a boy, girl or unisex. KINDERGARTEN

The parents were NOT asked permission or notified. And kindergarten kids were taught " THIRD SEX GENDER


that's a misconception. there is always a choice. I always corrected misinformation from the school such as the best way to do certain math operations, biology info, artistic definitions (as well as "third sex gender" were that an issue) as a responsible parent would continue to do so. that is not only scientifically wrong, it is silly. I would also encourage my kids to argue with the teachers and refuse to agree :)

I would not allow my kids to go. that's final. let them arrest me. there is nothing they can do to stop me from removing my children. I am a certified teacher and in the "know" :)

my youngest went to parochial school anyway. thank god....so again...I would remove my children

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Sat 05/16/15 07:42 PM
CA Law AB 1266
signed by Gov Jerry Brown

http://www.autostraddle.com/whats-happening-for-cas-trans-students-unpacking-the-clusterfuk-of-ab-1266-217301

This California law allows children as young as kindergarten to identify with what ever sex they want & educators have to agree.
And this same law is so BROAD it also allows a 16yr old male to be able to play on the female softball team & shower with them.

Other- CA law AB 1266

https://www.aclunc.org

www.eqca.org

end.m.wikipedia. off

www.autostaddle.com

www.glad.org

m.huffpost.com

ballotpedia.org

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Sat 05/16/15 07:47 PM
Keep in mind, the state flower of cali,
is an opiate.

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Sat 05/16/15 07:50 PM




As a parent,
I'm glad this isn't an issue I had to deal with.




as a parent I would pull my children out of those classes

Mandatory curriculum. Not a class or choice. The parents found out in Canada... the Kindergarten... kids came hone, asking sex questions & some upset asking it they are a boy, girl or unisex. KINDERGARTEN

The parents were NOT asked permission or notified. And kindergarten kids were taught " THIRD SEX GENDER


I would not allow my kids to go. that's final. let them arrest me. there is nothing they can do to stop me from removing my children. I am a certified teacher and in the "know" :)

my youngest went to parochial school anyway. thank god....so again...I would remove my children


Of course. I would take them out entirely..
A miss understanding for the word "classes' .. It sounded ad if you meant to stop them go from that particular class (s). Which would be impossible if they are enrolled.

Mine kids never went to public school. My & my my ex husband agreed ...never.


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Sat 05/16/15 07:50 PM




As a parent,
I'm glad this isn't an issue I had to deal with.




as a parent I would pull my children out of those classes

Mandatory curriculum. Not a class or choice. The parents found out in Canada... the Kindergarten... kids came hone, asking sex questions & some upset asking it they are a boy, girl or unisex. KINDERGARTEN

The parents were NOT asked permission or notified. And kindergarten kids were taught " THIRD SEX GENDER


I would not allow my kids to go. that's final. let them arrest me. there is nothing they can do to stop me from removing my children. I am a certified teacher and in the "know" :)

my youngest went to parochial school anyway. thank god....so again...I would remove my children


Of course. I would take them out entirely..
A miss understanding for the word "classes' .. It sounded ad if you meant to stop them go from that particular class (s). Which would be impossible if they are enrolled.

Mine kids never went to public school. My & my my ex husband agreed ...never.


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Sat 05/16/15 07:59 PM


Some schools in Vancouver are reported to be doing away with the old-fashioned pronouns "he" and "she" for their transgender pupils in favour of a new gender-neutral word, "xe".
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-27904621
******************

Wasn't there another topic/thread started on here with thid 'XE' as the title? Really unfortunate that we aren't able to do a 'SEARCH' prior to starting more topics of the same genre and we could combine them or MERGE them!


" Xe ", pronounced zee?

Irony...

Sie, pronounced zee..
German for " her".
And, dependent on context,
Sie, is also German for "sir".

I seem to recall, hearing about
a rather infamous German chant,
circa 1930s and 1940s, that contained
the word " Sie " in it.

Xe/zee/sie..

Is this the dawning of the gay nazification
of the education systems?
In Spanish when a girl says si, si, si. There ain't no confusing genders.

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Sat 05/16/15 11:31 PM


Some schools in Vancouver are reported to be doing away with the old-fashioned pronouns "he" and "she" for their transgender pupils in favour of a new gender-neutral word, "xe".
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-27904621
******************

Wasn't there another topic/thread started on here with thid 'XE' as the title? Really unfortunate that we aren't able to do a 'SEARCH' prior to starting more topics of the same genre and we could combine them or MERGE them!


" Xe ", pronounced zee?

Irony...

Sie, pronounced zee..
German for " her".
And, dependent on context,
Sie, is also German for "sir".

I seem to recall, hearing about
a rather infamous German chant,
circa 1930s and 1940s, that contained
the word " Sie " in it.

Xe/zee/sie..

Is this the dawning of the gay nazification
of the education systems?



XE & Xe& Sie & SIE - all relate to energy.

All combinations came up, in dictionaries under, GERMAN, English, Islamic/Muslim,( LATIN- French, Italian, Spanish)

In German & English (didn't search the others to thoughtly) Both were in reference to Biology, Engineering, Military-soliders & speeches. And are also acronyms. All came up under Nazi Germany 1930's1940's. All came up w/ Islamic dictionaries.
*Latin languages only appear in references to WW 11*

Urban dictionaries both XE & Sie came ALMOST identical (probably miss use of slag ... already)... as..

'Sie = ' hir' & 'herr', she/ he, gender neutral, transsexual, hermoraphrodoite , tgirl, tranny

SIE is German [formal]= You
SIE is pronounced like 'zee'
Sie is used in a different context in German

Ze is German & a gender neutral pronoun.
It relates to someone who does not fit into gender binary.
Transgender, transsexual, nongender

Xe- biology (chemicals & compounds)
Xe- algebra
Xe- Nazi files (1,500) discovered in 2006 all with XE as a prefix, followed by a 5 digit number.
Xe- Blackwater mercenaries

Example of scientific prefix....

Xengenesis = the production of offspring markedly different from either parent.

All scientific prefixes (I found) relate to offspring & parents (some are leaves & the different sides of them), other references were not specific (incomplete search).