Did President Obama Prematurely Politicize Oregon Shooting? - Fox Nation

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Just saw NBC news update that contained the magic words that will chum the water..."AR-15" and "high capacity magazines". Oooohhh. Grab your butts, it's going to be a bumpy ride....

After double checking Google, I am not seeing another Press Conference with the President listed.

But FoxNews also listed an Oregon Press Conference earlier ? & now says there is a Press Conference at an Oregon Hospital were 3 victims are, now?

'stable' is a subjective standard, many here that I dont find too stable myself,, but thats not a MEDICAL diagnosis,,,which would be a different standard than the non qualified 'personal' opinions people base their judgements on

sane people can do insane things,,the insanity of the action does not mean they were not sane ,,,which is a medical standard and not a social one,,,

without that medical diagnosis its hard to help people or be able to act upon threats

and the idea of some arbitrary standards to 'force' people into mental care is much scarier than the idea of gun control,,,,to me

Here is a list of Personality Disorders. That of course is not an excuse.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/personality-disorders/basics/symptoms/con-20030111


Antisocial personality disorder
•Disregard for others' needs or feelings
•Persistent lying, stealing, using aliases, conning others
•Recurring problems with the law
•Repeated violation of the rights of others
•Aggressive, often violent behavior
•Disregard for the safety of self or others
•Impulsive behavior
•Consistently irresponsible
•Lack of remorse for behavior





Personality disorders




Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic Staff


Types of personality disorders are grouped into three clusters, based on similar characteristics and symptoms. Many people with one personality disorder also have signs and symptoms of at least one additional personality disorder.

Cluster A personality disorders

Cluster A personality disorders are characterized by odd, eccentric thinking or behavior. They include paranoid personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder and schizotypal personality disorder. It's not necessary to exhibit all the signs and symptoms listed for a disorder to be diagnosed.

Paranoid personality disorder
•Pervasive distrust and suspicion of others and their motives
•Unjustified belief that others are trying to harm or deceive you
•Unjustified suspicion of the loyalty or trustworthiness of others
•Hesitant to confide in others due to unreasonable fear that others will use the information against you
•Perception of innocent remarks or nonthreatening situations as personal insults or attacks
•Angry or hostile reaction to perceived slights or insults
•Tendency to hold grudges
•Unjustified, recurrent suspicion that spouse or sexual partner is unfaithful

Schizoid personality disorder
•Lack of interest in social or personal relationships, preferring to be alone
•Limited range of emotional expression
•Inability to take pleasure in most activities
•Inability to pick up normal social cues
•Appearance of being cold or indifferent to others
•Little or no interest in having sex with another person

Schizotypal personality disorder
•Peculiar dress, thinking, beliefs, speech or behavior
•Odd perceptual experiences, such as hearing a voice whisper your name
•Flat emotions or inappropriate emotional responses
•Social anxiety and a lack of or discomfort with close relationships
•Indifferent, inappropriate or suspicious response to others
•"Magical thinking" — believing you can influence people and events with your thoughts
•Belief that certain casual incidents or events have hidden messages meant specifically for you

Cluster B personality disorders

Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, overly emotional or unpredictable thinking or behavior. They include antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. It's not necessary to exhibit all the signs and symptoms listed for a disorder to be diagnosed.

Antisocial personality disorder
•Disregard for others' needs or feelings
•Persistent lying, stealing, using aliases, conning others
•Recurring problems with the law
•Repeated violation of the rights of others
•Aggressive, often violent behavior
•Disregard for the safety of self or others
•Impulsive behavior
•Consistently irresponsible
•Lack of remorse for behavior

Borderline personality disorder
•Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, gambling or binge eating
•Unstable or fragile self-image
•Unstable and intense relationships
•Up and down moods, often as a reaction to interpersonal stress
•Suicidal behavior or threats of self-injury
•Intense fear of being alone or abandoned
•Ongoing feelings of emptiness
•Frequent, intense displays of anger
•Stress-related paranoia that comes and goes

Histrionic personality disorder
•Constantly seeking attention
•Excessively emotional, dramatic or sexually provocative to gain attention
•Speaks dramatically with strong opinions, but few facts or details to back them up
•Easily influenced by others
•Shallow, rapidly changing emotions
•Excessive concern with physical appearance
•Thinks relationships with others are closer than they really are

Narcissistic personality disorder
•Belief that you're special and more important than others
•Fantasies about power, success and attractiveness
•Failure to recognize others' needs and feelings
•Exaggeration of achievements or talents
•Expectation of constant praise and admiration
•Arrogance
•Unreasonable expectations of favors and advantages, often taking advantage of others
•Envy of others or belief that others envy you

Cluster C personality disorders

Cluster C personality disorders are characterized by anxious, fearful thinking or behavior. They include avoidant personality disorder, dependent personality disorder and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder. It's not necessary to exhibit all the signs and symptoms listed for a disorder to be diagnosed.

Avoidant personality disorder
•Too sensitive to criticism or rejection
•Feeling inadequate, inferior or unattractive
•Avoidance of work activities that require interpersonal contact
•Social inhibition, timidity and isolation, especially avoiding new activities or meeting strangers
•Extreme shyness in social situations and personal relationships
•Fear of disapproval, embarrassment or ridicule

Dependent personality disorder
•Excessive dependence on others and feels the need to be taken care of
•Submissive or clingy behavior toward others
•Fear of having to provide self-care or fend for yourself if left alone
•Lack of self-confidence, requiring excessive advice and reassurance from others to make even small decisions
•Difficulty starting or doing projects on own due to lack of self-confidence
•Difficulty disagreeing with others, fearing disapproval
•Tolerance of poor or abusive treatment, even when other options are available
•Urgent need to start a new relationship when a close one has ended

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder
•Preoccupation with details, orderliness and rules
•Extreme perfectionism, resulting in dysfunction and distress when perfection is not achieved, such as feeling unable to finish a project because you don't meet your own strict standards
•Desire to be in control of people, tasks and situations and inability to delegate tasks
•Neglect of friends and enjoyable activities because of excessive commitment to work or a project
•Inability to discard broken or worthless objects
•Rigid and stubborn
•Inflexible about morality, ethics or values
•Tight, miserly control over budgeting and spending money

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder isn't the same as obsessive-compulsive disorder, a type of anxiety disorder.

When to see a doctor

If you have any signs or symptoms of a personality disorder, see your doctor, mental health provider or other health care professional. Untreated, personality disorders can cause significant problems in your life that may get worse without treatment.

If a person is mentally unstable or not is really not an excuse to break the law. Should mental health be more accessible yes . Gun control is a big topic and unfortunately there has been quite a few school shootings some kind of arrangement or agreement should be made towards this issue be it with the government , schools, parents people in general.

No link but I saw the local sheriff in a clip of a news conference ask the media to not mention the shooters name. Im all for that...frick these cowards and the notoriety they want.

Also, as far as mental health issues....maybe some of these shooter types are just plain evil.

As far as I know, all states require a doctor and a judge to sign the order to have someone involuntarily committed. What's "arbitrary" about that?

"Gun control" is not crime control. It's not even about guns; it's about control.

Did you know that Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, the Columbine murderers, were originally intending to blow up the school with two bombs made with 20 lb. propane cylinders? Do we need background checks before someone can buy any compressed flammable gas?

"If gun control worked, Chicago would be Mayberry right now. Real life is gun control not working in Chicago. Real life is gun control failing in Camden, New Jersey, and Oakland, California, and a lot of other communities in this country . . ." -- Cam Edwards

The news I saw looked like he was targeting Christians. The Christians were killed and non-Christians were shot in the leg

even in mayberry, Barney Fife only got one bullet.. and had to keep it in his shirt pocket...

That's right.
FoxNews, Washington News
New York Post, & Christian & Conservative News & Alterative News & some overseas coverage, mainly India & Israel, covered that.
Because you know... the alphabet networks..want to pretend that Christians aren't persecuted & being slaughtered through out the world now.

Wonder if this would be considered a hate crime

BREAKING NEWS: OREGON MASS SHOOTING
BROKEN RECORD: BOBAMA CALLS FOR MORE GUN LAWS
At the time of this writing on Thursday evening, very little is known about the sick sonofabitch who shot up a community college in Oregon (which had no armed security), snuffing out lives and dreams before the police blew him to Hell (we hope literally).
We know that the shooter (whose name we won't repeat here) was 26 years old, not a student at the college, and there are reports that he was forcing his victims to state their religion: Christians got a bullet to the head, everyone else was shot in the legs.
Only hours after the shooting, BO took to the airways to - in his own words - politicize this appalling tragedy. f+or once he was telling the truth, saying that when voters go to the polls, they need to keep in mind that voting for a certain political party was essentially a vote for continuing mass murder.
Really, Barry?
Is THAT your healing message for a wounded nation?
He lied his *** off asserting that America basically lacks any real regulation of guns at all, and claiming that no other developed nation on Earth has problems with mass shootings - a statement which would make for a pretty good satire at Charlie Hebdo if the writers and artists hadn't been massacred by zealots from Obama's favorite religion of Peace.
He then challenged reporters to print stories comparing the number of Americans killed by terror to the number killed by gun violence - a "twofer" for BO which allows him to use still-fresh murders for his own political ends while also giving cover to radical Islamic terror.
Here's a question for you, Bo Hussein - when the papers print those body counts, how often do you think the one day total for gun violence will exceed the thousands of Americans who died on a single day in September back in 2001?
Obama lectured our stupid, stupid country on our failure to control guns when it comes to mass shootings, but never mentioned the fact that in his home town of Chicago 50 people were shot over the weekend. Which happens to be the case pretty much every goddamned weekend.
So here's an idea, Barry. Why don't you take your brilliant "common sense" proposals to remove guns from the hands of criminals and lunatics and apply it to Chicago so we can see how beautifully it works?
If it's a terrific success, then you can apply those same regulations nationwide to usher in a new era of idyllic peace and, as a bonus, Hope n' Change will personally kiss your *** on the White House lawn.
If it's not, well, at least you accomplished your real goal in addressing the nation: using the blood of innocents to distract the media from your foreign policy fiascos and your complete failure as a leader.
from a Post on FB.

We see how well more gun laws stopped this lunatic huh

sure did.

Because we know criminals obey the law

yes,they sure do!

Saw this post in another site. States my opinion even better than I can....

"" The problem with all these mass-shootings
doesn't lie with guns, the law, or even mental
health.
The problem is that we've created several
generations of coddled little babies who don't
know how to deal with adversity. They are
taught that life is "fair" and that there is no
such thing as winning or losing (everyone gets
a trophy). Make a B in a class? Mommy and
Daddy will raise hell until the teacher raises it
to an A. They never have to learn from failure
and deal with its impact.
Then when they enter the real world and it
kicks them in the nuts, they are not equipped
to deal with it, so they lash out in irrational
ways.
To answer your question...there is no change
needed to gun control, unless we simply do
away with control altogether. Guns aren't the
problem. Puzzies are the problem.""