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Topic: Bill Clinton vs #BLM Protesters
SassyEuro2 Joined Wed 04/29/15 Posts: 11102	Fri 04/08/16 04:40 PM
Tell the truth:' Bill Clinton clashes with Black Lives Matter protesters Former President Bill Clinton was involved in a heated exchange with Black Lives Matter protesters Thursday at a Hillary Clinton campaign event in Philadelphia, where he was forced to defend his record as president and his wife’s past statements. For almost 15 minutes Clinton sparred with protesters who objected to the 1994 criminal justice reform bill he signed into law as president that increased prison sentences for a number of gang-related offenses. Black Lives Matter activists claim the bill disproportionately hurt African-Americans. A visibly agitated Clinton told the protesters that the bill helped crack down on gangs who were killing African-American children. "I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. The former president shot back. “I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out onto the streets to murder other African-American children, maybe you thought they were good citizens,” Clinton said, his face turning increasingly red. “She didn’t.” “You are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Tell the truth. You are defending the people who cause young people to go out and take guns,” Clinton yelled. He also addressed claims by the protesters that the 1996 welfare reform bill increased poverty among African-Americans. “They say the welfare reform bill increased poverty then why did we have the largest drop in African American poverty in history when I was president?” he asked rhetorically. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/04/08/tell-truth-bill-clinton-clashes-with-black-lives-matter-protesters.html/ * Video 6:15 * -------------- Black Lives Matter protesters and Bill Clinton repeatedly clash in Philadelphia http://youtu.be/xRrVI5gHVyo/ 11:35 - CBS April 7, 2016

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Fri 04/08/16 04:52 PM Edited by massagetrade on Fri 04/08/16 04:54 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh.

Smartazzjohn Joined Sun 06/03/07 Posts: 4844	Fri 04/08/16 05:23 PM
“You are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. Tell the truth. You are defending the people who cause young people to go out and take guns,” Clinton yelled. “They say the welfare reform bill increased poverty then why did we have the largest drop in African American poverty in history when I was president?” he asked rhetorically. hmmm it seems Republicans have made similar comments about both of these points, often being called racist for doing so. Sanders has said that Hillary has stolen some of his talking points...is Billy stealing racist Republican talking points now?

mrjallenbrown Joined Mon 09/09/13 Posts: 53	Fri 04/08/16 05:29 PM Edited by mrjallenbrown on Fri 04/08/16 05:33 PM
Blm just need to understand that none of these politicians really give a damn about them, that you have to give a damn about yourself, that change comes from within the community not the opposite. Stop having babies when your not capable of supporting them, and black men stay in your kids lifes... most of my people struggle comes from their own faults, generational curses...

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 04/08/16 05:44 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities

Smartazzjohn Joined Sun 06/03/07 Posts: 4844	Fri 04/08/16 06:14 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 04/08/16 06:19 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase. even better, making mention of whether the phrase is acceptable to say irrelevant' the point I Was trying to make

ciretom Joined Wed 06/18/14 Posts: 4953	Fri 04/08/16 07:26 PM
Bill Clinton vs #BLM Protesters Seems to be like a Perfect Storm. You've got a compulsive liar who will say whatever he needs to vs. compulsive trolls that say whatever they want to. I think if they paid Clinton for a longer speech it would have devolved into several hours of: "Nuh uh!" "Uh huh!" "Nuh uh!" "Uh huh!" "Did not!" "Did too!" "Did not!" "Did too!" "Nuh uh!" "Ya huh!"

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Fri 04/08/16 07:31 PM
I think the Rhodes Scholar has never and would never use such elementary speech patterns

massagetrade Joined Thu 02/22/07 Posts: 8505	Sat 04/09/16 06:29 AM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase. even better, making mention of whether the phrase is acceptable to say irrelevant' the point I Was trying to make Smartazzjohn is correct. I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered; they said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals You may not find this use of the phrase offensive MsHarmony, but there are many brainwashed BLM supporters who get infuriated when a white person makes a comment like this; I read their posts on facebook and sometimes even hear them rant in person. Many of today's anti-racists don't hesitate to use whatever dishonest tactic they can to control the conversation and silence other views. Bill Clinton was absolutely right about that point in his speech: They do not want to hear the truth.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 04/09/16 02:30 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase. even better, making mention of whether the phrase is acceptable to say irrelevant' the point I Was trying to make Smartazzjohn is correct. I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered; they said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals You may not find this use of the phrase offensive MsHarmony, but there are many brainwashed BLM supporters who get infuriated when a white person makes a comment like this; I read their posts on facebook and sometimes even hear them rant in person. Many of today's anti-racists don't hesitate to use whatever dishonest tactic they can to control the conversation and silence other views. Bill Clinton was absolutely right about that point in his speech: They do not want to hear the truth. no argument there,, these are humans, we find all kinds the context of what he said was pointing out how his actions were in line with black lives matter and not against them,,,,not to challenge the movement itself

SassyEuro2 Joined Wed 04/29/15 Posts: 11102	Sat 04/09/16 04:14 PM
"I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered. They said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals," Clinton said. Oh no he didn't!!! Didn't he hear how the culture has changed lately? Using the phrase Black Lives Matter in any context other than 'black people dying during interactions with the police' is one of the worst ThoughtCrimes a white person can commit in 2016. One protester yelled that “black youth are not super predators” – a reference to a statement Hillary Clinton made as first lady. Sigh. well, he didn't say he used the phrase,,,he said he talked to black people who were using the phrase and concerned about the violence in their communities You missed or ignore the point of his post. But since YOU brought it up Clinton said he "talked to a lot of African-American groups. They THOUGHT black lives mattered." He didn't say they used the phrase. even better, making mention of whether the phrase is acceptable to say irrelevant' the point I Was trying to make Smartazzjohn is correct. I talked to a lot of African-American groups. They thought black lives mattered; they said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the street by gangs. We had 13-year-old kids planning their own funerals You may not find this use of the phrase offensive MsHarmony, but there are many brainwashed BLM supporters who get infuriated when a white person makes a comment like this; I read their posts on facebook and sometimes even hear them rant in person. Many of today's anti-racists don't hesitate to use whatever dishonest tactic they can to control the conversation and silence other views. Bill Clinton was absolutely right about that point in his speech: They do not want to hear the truth. And they still don't. This certainly was not the first clash he had with them. I am no fan of any Clinton, but he is absolutely right. As far as defending his wife's comments (I seen the original footage), & that the BLM is misguided and defending criminals.

Rock Joined Thu 10/09/08 Posts: 21250	Sat 04/09/16 04:34 PM
#blackliesmatter

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 04/09/16 08:26 PM
#solutionsmatter #distractionsdontmatter

mrme1515 Joined Fri 03/07/14 Posts: 1	Sat 04/09/16 08:37 PM
In the big scheme of things, who cares what Bill and Hillary said or didn't say. They are a pair of liars and crooks, and that's why we need Bernie for President.

Valeris Joined Wed 01/21/15 Posts: 453	Sat 04/09/16 08:48 PM Edited by Valeris on Sat 04/09/16 08:50 PM
WontVoteHillary Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOr4NNraBBE * Sources: Race, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=0m22s Wall Street, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=7m47s Health Care, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=11m3s LGBT Equality, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=13m26s Credibility Issues, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=15m0s On War, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=19m40s On NAFTA, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=24m07s On War & Benghazi, https://youtu.be/NOr4NNraBBE?t=25m47s Under no circumstances will I vote for Hillary Clinton. The DNC and Clinton machine are using the same dirty tricks they used in 2008. Sign this pledge and send a message to the establishment that Democracy is not a plaything for the elite. Why Democrats Shouldn't Vote For Clinton. Hillary Clinton may be the DNC darling, but she should not be crowned the presidential nominee without popular consent. We the people cannot allow Clinton to win if we want to see a progressive White House. Clinton's policies are center-right, she carries too much baggage and she has too many enemies to win the general election. Below is a list of reasons why Clinton is unelectable. ****************************************************************** "Black Lives Matter..." Why Do African-Americans Support The Clintons? Link: https://youtu.be/0rM156wa780 * Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks discusses a devastating editorial from Michelle Alexander in The Nation which dives into the Clinton family's history with the African-American community. Former President Bill Clinton is often called our "first Black President" but does he really deserve that nickname? Tell us what you think in the comment section below. Read more here: http://www.thenation.com/article/hill... "Hillary Clinton loves black people. And black people love Hillary—or so it seems. Black politicians have lined up in droves to endorse her, eager to prove their loyalty to the Clintons in the hopes that their faithfulness will be remembered and rewarded. Black pastors are opening their church doors, and the Clintons are making themselves comfortably at home once again, engaging effortlessly in all the usual rituals associated with “courting the black vote,” a pursuit that typically begins and ends with Democratic politicians making black people feel liked and taken seriously. Doing something concrete to improve the conditions under which most black people live is generally not required. Some might argue that it’s unfair to judge Hillary Clinton for the policies her husband championed years ago. But Hillary wasn’t picking out china while she was first lady. She bravely broke the mold and redefined that job in ways no woman ever had before. She not only campaigned for Bill; she also wielded power and significant influence once he was elected, lobbying for legislation and other measures. That record, and her statements from that era, should be scrutinized. In her support for the 1994 crime bill, for example, she used racially coded rhetoric to cast black children as animals. “They are not just gangs of kids anymore,” she said. “They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel."*

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sat 04/09/16 08:57 PM
I support the first and the second Clinton because they HAVE SENSE, they make sense, and they have a history of actually contributing to and working towards the goals they promote,,,,

Valeris Joined Wed 01/21/15 Posts: 453	Sat 04/09/16 09:30 PM Edited by Valeris on Sat 04/09/16 09:41 PM
I support the first and the second Clinton because they HAVE SENSE, they make sense, and they have a history of actually contributing to and working towards the goals they promote,,,, Good for you. Hopefully you have done your research & based your opinion upon the facts. I hope it works outs out for you. * THE Nation Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote From the crime bill to welfare reform, policies Bill Clinton enacted—and Hillary Clinton supported—decimated black America. By Michelle Alexander http://www.thenation.com/article/hillary-clinton-does-not-deserve-black-peoples-votes/ * U.S. UNCUT Michelle Alexander Just Responded to Bill Clinton Amanda Girard \| April 8, 2016 http://usuncut.com/politics/michelle-alexander-clinton-blm-rant/

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 04/10/16 01:16 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 04/10/16 01:25 AM
I support the first and the second Clinton because they HAVE SENSE, they make sense, and they have a history of actually contributing to and working towards the goals they promote,,,, yep,you are right,the Betterment of their own Pocketbook!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 04/10/16 01:26 AM
In the big scheme of things, who cares what Bill and Hillary said or didn't say. They are a pair of liars and crooks, and that's why we need Bernie for President. Really intend to put yerself into the Latrine now,hmm?