Topic: Does using the N word make you a racist ?
no1phD's photo
Mon 07/04/16 02:56 PM
The guys at work use the word all the time... they also call each other their little b*****s... it all depends if you using it.. in a derogatory way.. to be hurtful or disrespectful.... and if you are I can think of much worse words to use than the n word..lol.. now get back to work my n*****..lol

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Mon 07/04/16 03:21 PM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Mon 07/04/16 03:23 PM
SOmetimes the so called racist crap is going to extremes.
We had these particular sweet-things here, white puffy creamy stuff with chocolate over it. I grew up with 'em, everyone has. They were called "Negro Kiss"
Then a few years back someone got their knickers in a twist over it, and now they're called "Choco Kiss".
I don't understand what all the fuss is all about sometimes. I never even thought of a negro when I bought those things. It was just a word, like "aspirine" or "cookie".
And apart from that, what is wrong with a negro kiss?
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no1phD's photo
Mon 07/04/16 03:36 PM
Edited by no1phD on Mon 07/04/16 03:40 PM

SOmetimes the so called racist crap is going to extremes.
We had these particular sweet-things here, white puffy creamy stuff with chocolate over it. I grew up with 'em, everyone has. They were called "Negro Kiss"
Then a few years back someone got their knickers in a twist over it, and now they're called "Choco Kiss".
I don't understand what all the fuss is all about sometimes. I never even thought of a negro when I bought those things. It was just a word, like "aspirine" or "cookie".
And apart from that, what is wrong with a negro kiss?
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.soo.. what you're really saying is ..you can't get enough negro in you..hahaha...haaaaaa.. or more simply put.. you can't get enough negro kisses.... and yes we had them here as well.... but we didn't call them that I think they're called Stay Puft... or is it stay hard? I can never remember..lol

Duttoneer's photo
Tue 07/05/16 01:43 AM

I only lived in the uk a year,, I heard the word used amongst poor youth in non derogatory manner with each other


but they probably aren't following dictionary etiquette,,,,


I agree that context and situations alter cases, but it is a word I would never use.

TragicEndings's photo
Wed 07/06/16 09:08 AM
I'm not exactly sure how black people started getting called negros. That's how old people called them. Negros. Somewhere down the line it changed to ******. ****** means to be ignorant. I use the word a lot. But I don't use the word as a racial slur. I use it to descibe the actions of someone. Anyone from any color can be a ******. I'd rather also say black person instead of African American. That makes them sound like they just got here..they are Americans like I am. They don't call us European Americans. And I know..they are not black, but we are also not white. It's slang . Its better than using racial names. That's my 2 cents.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 09:46 AM

SOmetimes the so called racist crap is going to extremes.
We had these particular sweet-things here, white puffy creamy stuff with chocolate over it. I grew up with 'em, everyone has. They were called "Negro Kiss"
Then a few years back someone got their knickers in a twist over it, and now they're called "Choco Kiss".
I don't understand what all the fuss is all about sometimes. I never even thought of a negro when I bought those things. It was just a word, like "aspirine" or "cookie".
And apart from that, what is wrong with a negro kiss?
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well, choco kiss is more accurate and true,,,


its not an issue if we also name foods Caucasian hugs,,,,,lol

but till that time,, describing actual ingredients seems logical and nonoffensive to an entire race

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 09:46 AM

SOmetimes the so called racist crap is going to extremes.
We had these particular sweet-things here, white puffy creamy stuff with chocolate over it. I grew up with 'em, everyone has. They were called "Negro Kiss"
Then a few years back someone got their knickers in a twist over it, and now they're called "Choco Kiss".
I don't understand what all the fuss is all about sometimes. I never even thought of a negro when I bought those things. It was just a word, like "aspirine" or "cookie".
And apart from that, what is wrong with a negro kiss?
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well, choco kiss is more accurate and true,,,


its not an issue if we also name foods Caucasian hugs,,,,,lol

but till that time,, describing actual ingredients seems logical and nonoffensive to an entire race

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 09:56 AM

I'm not exactly sure how black people started getting called negros. That's how old people called them. Negros. Somewhere down the line it changed to ******. ****** means to be ignorant. I use the word a lot. But I don't use the word as a racial slur. I use it to descibe the actions of someone. Anyone from any color can be a ******. I'd rather also say black person instead of African American. That makes them sound like they just got here..they are Americans like I am. They don't call us European Americans. And I know..they are not black, but we are also not white. It's slang . Its better than using racial names. That's my 2 cents.



I respect how respectful you are


negro also means 'black'



I don't use the racial slurs,,

however, when it comes to racial descriptions, I prefer African American because semantically 'black' denotes primarily negative imagery and association and is also the exact opposite of 'white'

for me at least,, the choice that certain people were labeled 'white'(pure, clean, harmless..et) and others were labeled the opposite 'black'(having no light, dirty, evil, hostile,,,)


causes me to reject that title in preference to the civil rights title that doesn't carry such obvious negative imagery and association and actually describes my ancestry (which is what race is defined by)

peggy122's photo
Wed 07/06/16 10:07 AM
It can be racist according to the context in which it is used, as some of the respondents here have said.

But I feel very passionately about this. If minorities want other races to minimixe the derogatory usage of that word,then it is just plain common sense for them (us)to refrain from referring to each other as such.

There is too much negative history attached to that word. Rape and public lynchings often accompanied that word not that far back in history.


Why someone would want to take a violent word like that and try to convert it into a term of endearment is beyond me
whoa

Maybe we can restrict the use of that term for commedy and other artforms, where it can be used as a teaching tool of some sort.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 10:21 AM
I am passionately respectful of you, ms peggy

but I do disagree on this one,,,


I feel that once the word stops being used derogatorily, there should be no responsibility upon those its used against to refrain from their choice to redefine it within their own communities and circles



now,, I do believe there are plenty of vulgarities that people of any and all race should refrain from in front of seniors and children,,,, but amongst and within closed circles,, not so much

Candiapples's photo
Wed 07/06/16 03:31 PM
It's only politically acceptable to call Caucasians names (that's the truth)

BreakingGood's photo
Wed 07/06/16 03:34 PM

It's only politically acceptable to call Caucasians names (that's the truth)


That is such a white answer. laugh

Candiapples's photo
Wed 07/06/16 03:36 PM


It's only politically acceptable to call Caucasians names (that's the truth)


That is such a white answer. laugh
:tongue:

no1phD's photo
Wed 07/06/16 04:52 PM

who's to say? If the black community finds it o.k. to call each other the "N" word, then it would appear they have no problem with that word.. as long as another black person is saying it.

White people are not allowed to say that word... because we're .. white
.bingo...lol...of course..
It's the equivalent of two Jewish boys calling each other a little jewboys..

But if a German person calls them little jewboys. Jokingly. well watch out!!..

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 05:17 PM

It's only politically acceptable to call Caucasians names (that's the truth)



who is it acceptable for and what names?

can I get a for instance or two?

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 05:22 PM

who's to say? If the black community finds it o.k. to call each other the "N" word, then it would appear they have no problem with that word.. as long as another black person is saying it.

White people are not allowed to say that word... because we're .. white



not always true either,

white folks who grow up in urban areas with friends who are black use the word with their friends as well

if you are outside of a circle that already uses it in a positive context,, is when you probably should avoid it

Candiapples's photo
Wed 07/06/16 05:34 PM
Msharmony it is called reverse racism
Check it out

peggy122's photo
Wed 07/06/16 05:51 PM
This is where the line gets blurred and ultimately ugly MsH.


When minorities use this word as a term of endearment amongst each other, and caucasian friends start using it, caucasians outside of that circle are often unable to reconcile the concept of CONTEXT.

All they see is the word "******" being used idly and minorities giving a stamp of approval.

And then when some of those caucasians innocently duplicate what they witnessed , minorities wanna get offended. It is setting a dangerous precedent MsH. I dont know why its so hard for people to understand that

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 11:37 PM

Msharmony it is called reverse racism
Check it out



I wasn't asking about reverse racism, which is a ridiculous term since racism is racism

I only asked for examples of when its politically acceptable to call whites names,,,,,

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/06/16 11:42 PM

This is where the line gets blurred and ultimately ugly MsH.


When minorities use this word as a term of endearment amongst each other, and caucasian friends start using it, caucasians outside of that circle are often unable to reconcile the concept of CONTEXT.

All they see is the word "******" being used idly and minorities giving a stamp of approval.

And then when some of those caucasians innocently duplicate what they witnessed , minorities wanna get offended. It is setting a dangerous precedent MsH. I dont know why its so hard for people to understand that



I think the inability to understand context is hard for me to understand in grown ups


just like friends and family may call my mom by her first name, it wouldn't and shouldn't make strangers who have not met and do not know her feel free to do the same,,its too familiar if you don't know someone

there are familiar terms people use with each other, and then there are the respectful ways that strangers address each other