Topic: No debate about debate...?
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Wed 09/28/16 10:43 PM


Haha reminds me of a cartoon.. Celebrity Deathmach . laugh











Oh! Oh! Germs! Germs! Get em' off! Hurry!



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Wed 09/28/16 10:59 PM
Oh! Oh! Stain!! Stain! Get it off my dress! Hurry!

FIFY.....

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Wed 09/28/16 11:08 PM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Wed 09/28/16 11:14 PM

The media is biased, Trump was a gentleman and took some verbal abuse IMO, Next debate is Anderson cooper hosting and that promises to be so lopsided against Trump it won't be funny.

Trump calls her Secretary Clinton,
she calls him sexist, miss piggy callin, tax evading monster.
He behaved, it seems he'll need to turn up the heat to gain points in US

She unleashed everything she had on him the first night, this ain't over and it won't be pretty shocked

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He should PAY his taxes at the next debate.

You are right about something, the media is totally biased. Trump has set a record for (un) earned media on, pretty much all the networks. I'd like to see a comparison of the last, idk, 5 races and see if any candidate from any party over all the big networks CNN ABC CBS NBC and Fox tops Trump's time on morning Joe, or Fox and friends, or evening news with David Muir, or the O'Reilly factor, or A.C. 360, or CNN Tonight with Don Lemon. It's so biased in fact that Trump has two media moguls one as CEO (Bannon) and one as senior advisor (Aisles) of/to his campaign officially. So biased in fact that former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski who is STILL recieving severance pay from the Trump campaignwas hired by CNN as a panelist, 4-5 months ago? So biased in fact that Teddy Turner is running Trump's Superpac. Damn them liberal mediites with their cameras and microphones and fancy tables. grumble

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Wed 09/28/16 11:11 PM

Oh! Oh! Stain!! Stain! Get it off my dress! Hurry!

FIFY.....

Did he buy that with Trump Foundation money too? Is that what he's hiding behind the 6 foot painting of himself?

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Wed 09/28/16 11:32 PM

Trump takes Stop and Frisk a leeeetle too far.

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Wed 09/28/16 11:41 PM
The debate? What about the debate?



We won the debate in like all the polls. We'll take good care of the $18M, we'll put it with the rest everything is fine, believe me, go back to sleep.

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Wed 09/28/16 11:42 PM


Trump takes Stop and Frisk a leeeetle too far.


I think he's just sucking the tan out of her.
Donald Trump. Tanpire.

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Thu 09/29/16 12:01 AM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Wed 09/28/16 11:55 PM



Trump takes Stop and Frisk a leeeetle too far.


I think he's just sucking the tan out of her.
Donald Trump. Tanpire.

They're bringing drugs, SNIFF
They're bringing crime, SNIFF
They're rapists, SNIFF
And some surprised I assume are good people.

Adios Mio!!!!

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Thu 09/29/16 12:02 AM
Edited by germanchoclate1981 on Thu 09/29/16 12:32 AM
Wait a minute there Donald, you said it wasn't Russia who hacked the DNC, maybe it was CHINA



Would this be considered giving aid to the enemy (there is no comfort in a sweatshop) ? Like legally with a contract and all? Well, there might be comfort in a sweatshop if it has one of those Carrier a/c's they make in Mexico. Who makes these deals? All our jobs, they're leaving and Mexico is taking all our jobs.

We gotta get smart folks.

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Thu 09/29/16 05:08 AM


The media is biased, Trump was a gentleman and took some verbal abuse IMO, Next debate is Anderson cooper hosting and that promises to be so lopsided against Trump it won't be funny.

Trump calls her Secretary Clinton,
she calls him sexist, miss piggy callin, tax evading monster.
He behaved, it seems he'll need to turn up the heat to gain points in US

She unleashed everything she had on him the first night, this ain't over and it won't be pretty shocked

.


He should PAY his taxes at the next debate.



LOL This is funny, he's probably the most audited person in the US, I doubt very much he's skirting outside of the fiscal rules, he was a businessman and took advantage of the loopholes afforded by someone before him.

Don't blame the player... fix the rules of the game!

I'm pretty sure they'll find more on you than they could ever find on him. You all created the Donald Trumps of the world, deal with it!

The irony, Mark Cuban flashing his goddam face at this event,
Scoundrel!!!!!




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Thu 09/29/16 06:18 AM

The media is biased. They're restrain ed to media relations,
HE unleashed everything she had on him the first night, this ain't over and it won't be pretty shocked
All she had to do was let him wrap his tongue around his own throat just like we knew he would. The media isn't biased when a BILLIONAIRE pays $0 for more media coverage that any campaign in history, especially when that person claims to be a BILLIONAIRE who wouldn't be hurt by dropping a few million here and there for carte blanche exclusive interviews and phone ins between rallies.
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He should PAY his taxes at the next debate.



LOL This is funny, he's probably the most audited person in the US, I doubt very much he's skirting outside of the fiscal rules, he was a businessman and took advantage of the loopholes afforded by someone before him.

Don't blame the player... fix the rules of the game!

I'm pretty sure they'll find more on you than they could ever find on him. You all created the Donald Trumps of the world, deal with it!

The irony, Mark Cuban flashing his goddam face at this event,
Scoundrel!!!!!


Damn straight he should pay his taxes. As for the 'rules of the game' when bus loads of lawyers show up at courthouses and reduce the value of 'some of the most amazing assets' and he pays little to nothing WE ALL LOSE. If I owed anything to the IRS, a few hundred of in the low thousands, I earn $0 until that 'debt' is satisfied. I don't have a bus load of tax lawyers on retainer, I don't have any lawyers of any kind on retainer. Besides that, my measly few hundos are easily exhausted with god knows how many IRS agents working Trump's network of shell corp's in who knows how many states colonies and abroad. Out of all his companies name one non defunct company that produces its merchandise in the U.S. besides his son's winery. ---- Right.



Honestly I couldn't care less if he's worth $4 or $10B. I know all I need to know that I don't agree with ANYONE stiffing the public when they themselves are currently still rich. If I can't make a payment that one thing because my 'tax debt' for the past 10 years wouldn't match what one of his shells owes this year.
Yet if I were to default I'd be fined, interest, on top of principle and I have little to no recourse when that money could make or break me. He could lose $ 40- 50M and be just fine. I'd be lucky to earn that much over my entire life. The IRS has these things called brackets, he seems to leaving out the b. Him not paying taxes or having his assets appraised below fmv is a criminal act. If one of us tried that we'd be in jail for evasion and maybe even lose that property all together.

Remember that line 'taxation without representation'? You're fighting FOR that?

Whatever is on top of his head is atrocious but if you close your eyes and just listen to him speak or read transcripts of his 'speeches' it's ilke 19stupidy5, and it just keeps going. HE is the one that has no idea what he's doing or saying. Again, you're fighting FOR this?

Define tyranny.

Define tyrannical government.

Define Manchurian candidate.

Define imminent domain.

This is what you're fighting FOR.



Dislike her all you want, that doesn't mean you have to like her,

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Thu 09/29/16 06:50 AM
If I owed anything to the IRS, a few hundred of in the low thousands, I earn $0 until that 'debt' is satisfied. I don't have a bus load of tax lawyers on retainer, I don't have any lawyers of any kind on retainer. Besides that, my measly few hundos are easily exhausted with god knows how many IRS agents working Trump's network of shell corp's in who knows how many states colonies and abroad. Out of all his companies name one non defunct company that produces its merchandise in the U.S. besides his son's winery. ---- Right.



If you don't have a legal team, who's fault is that?

Companies who Produce merchandise in the US? Hahaha that's a funny one too! This is exactly what he is saying, there are no incentives for ANYONE to produce in America anymore. Why should he?

I'm not fighting for anyone... but who YOU'RE fighting for speaks VOLUMES!

H.Clinton patting herself on the back after that debate is a farce of epic proportion... I invite you to youtube that debate again, you're way off

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Thu 09/29/16 07:12 AM


Oh! Oh! Stain!! Stain! Get it off my dress! Hurry!

FIFY.....

Did he buy that with Trump Foundation money too? Is that what he's hiding behind the 6 foot painting of himself?
No...the Clinton Foundation.....cuck

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Thu 09/29/16 07:17 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/29/16 07:19 AM



The media is biased, Trump was a gentleman and took some verbal abuse IMO, Next debate is Anderson cooper hosting and that promises to be so lopsided against Trump it won't be funny.

Trump calls her Secretary Clinton,
she calls him sexist, miss piggy callin, tax evading monster.
He behaved, it seems he'll need to turn up the heat to gain points in US

She unleashed everything she had on him the first night, this ain't over and it won't be pretty shocked

.


He should PAY his taxes at the next debate.



LOL This is funny, he's probably the most audited person in the US, I doubt very much he's skirting outside of the fiscal rules, he was a businessman and took advantage of the loopholes afforded by someone before him.

Don't blame the player... fix the rules of the game!

I'm pretty sure they'll find more on you than they could ever find on him. You all created the Donald Trumps of the world, deal with it!

The irony, Mark Cuban flashing his goddam face at this event,
Scoundrel!!!!!






kind of like saying since a person is on the no fly list for several years in a row,, they probably ARENT Dangerous

if he is audited every year, he isn't personally audited but different high income businesses are , because the IRS must wait at least two years for additional audits if an audit doesn't turn up anything,,,



its odd though, because Hilary wasn't found to have done anything 'illegal' either, and people call foul on her, instead of just saying 'change the rules, you made her'



Trumps billions are largely from business in America, so he has plenty of incentive,,,,,and the idea that decent jobs come from the wealthy is quite illogical considering they have been consistently increasing their wealth for decades,, through recesssions for everyone else, through huge dips in employment as well as rises

their wealth is not in danger, they just have greed that wants to 'use' loopholes and perks to be wealthier,,,,building the middle class is whats important,,the wealthy have the system set up for them already,,, more breaks and perks will mean little for anyone else

can anyone tell me what is the difference between a 'tax evader' and a 'smart businessman' who uses the 'rules' to get out of contributing taxes , besides stigma?


character is the same, regardless of the name or consequences

like the difference between a 'draft dodger' and someone using the 'rules' to be able to get out of serving

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Thu 09/29/16 07:43 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 09/29/16 07:44 AM
I agree, though I think one candidate does give more actual details and facts than the other

I believe there are too many reiterated soundbytes and clichés and not enough detail in these debates

I really believe restricting their times for real and cutting off their mikes would make it much more clear who has a plan and would force them to focus more on explaining those plans so they don't look like fools,,

don't give them the extra time for attacks, insults, self aggrandizing and campaign soundbytes and things would change

I think the mods should be like judges and cut off the mic to restate the question when an answer is running off to a tangent that is not 'relevant'

ID love mods to have control of the debate instead of always handing it to the candidates

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Thu 09/29/16 08:01 AM
Lol...his taxes are such an issue..but if he's audited as much as he says...probably ok...but when Clinton was president...if I remember correctly ...people made a big stink about Hillary writing off the underwear she wore while campaigning with Bill ...so..basically...rich people use the tax loops to their advantage ..just like everyone...hmmm...as far as the debate...Hillary has been debating her entire life...Trump...green..lol..but boy...the two of them on stage together...worse than two brats in a daycare.. flowerforyou

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Thu 09/29/16 08:09 AM

I just find these debates ( and constant T.V. commercials) to be a waste

Not of substance is said.

Frankly I don't care about what Bill Clinton did, I don't care that Trump talks thru his a** at times

Tell me about the plans you have for our future. Both say they have them.. defeat I.S.S. , create U.S.jobs, control immigration... they say they have the plans... but they don't share the plans with the people who will be affected by these plans.

If I was to tell my boss, that I have a plan... then didn't tell him what is was.. my next plan would have to be on how to navigate thru the unemployment process


I heard some kind of plan from Trump on that stage, jobs will come from those who are able to repatriate some 5 Trillion back to the US economy... Something the present admin can't seem to get done? Goods from Mexico & China subject to import tax to level the playing fields. Revisited Trade deals etc. 20 Trillion owed, she had her chances to change things within... 30 years as a career politician that accomplished very little.

Clinton refers to her website, she says, if you want details on MY plan, go rifle through my site, I, personally won't go there, I want to hear it come out of their mouths not some place she can quickly edit at will and change her plan whenever she wants.

It was highly illegal what she did with those 33k emails, Trump is right, instructing all her staff to plead the fifth is corrupting the justice system.

So many things wrong with voting for her, that's all I'm going to say as an outsider.




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Thu 09/29/16 08:47 AM

I just find these debates ( and constant T.V. commercials) to be a waste

Not of substance is said.

Frankly I don't care about what Bill Clinton did, I don't care that Trump talks thru his a** at times

Tell me about the plans you have for our future. Both say they have them.. defeat I.S.S. , create U.S.jobs, control immigration... they say they have the plans... but they don't share the plans with the people who will be affected by these plans.

If I was to tell my boss, that I have a plan... then didn't tell him what is was.. my next plan would have to be on how to navigate thru the unemployment process
If just as soon see debates done away with. Replace them with a live televised town hall....where each candidate has to answer questions from an audience strictly made up of voters from the other side of the aisle.

Saying that, I'll leave the debate debaters with one last fark to keep it humorous....



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Thu 09/29/16 11:06 AM








Trump takes possession of White House keys
from a somewhat reluctant Obama...
laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 09/29/16 12:25 PM



I just find these debates ( and constant T.V. commercials) to be a waste

Not of substance is said.

Frankly I don't care about what Bill Clinton did, I don't care that Trump talks thru his a** at times

Tell me about the plans you have for our future. Both say they have them.. defeat I.S.S. , create U.S.jobs, control immigration... they say they have the plans... but they don't share the plans with the people who will be affected by these plans.

If I was to tell my boss, that I have a plan... then didn't tell him what is was.. my next plan would have to be on how to navigate thru the unemployment process


I heard some kind of plan from Trump on that stage, jobs will come from those who are able to repatriate some 5 Trillion back to the US economy... Something the present admin can't seem to get done? Goods from Mexico & China subject to import tax to level the playing fields. Revisited Trade deals etc. 20 Trillion owed, she had her chances to change things within... 30 years as a career politician that accomplished very little.

Clinton refers to her website, she says, if you want details on MY plan, go rifle through my site, I, personally won't go there, I want to hear it come out of their mouths not some place she can quickly edit at will and change her plan whenever she wants.

It was highly illegal what she did with those 33k emails, Trump is right, instructing all her staff to plead the fifth is corrupting the justice system.

So many things wrong with voting for her, that's all I'm going to say as an outsider.






Well, I am voting for Trump basically because I can't stand Hillary, that being say.

Import tax on product from China and Mexico are long long overdue. NFTA was a friggin joke.. still is.

I am building a factory in the U.S., to bring jobs back and I will tell you, if the U.S. raises the import tax you will see 1000's of companies do the same

Why

Because China labor & raw material costs have gone up each year. Steamship companies charge ($4,500.00) on average to bring in a container, then you add the port charges and surcharges.

Meaning the landed cost of many products currently made in China are now not that much cheaper then if made in the U.S.

90% of the outbound containers leaving the U.S. ports for China are EMTPY. They are being sent back for rotation!

But the Government has to DO SOMETHING about it. Make it feasible for companies to move back.

Dump the entire NFTA concept
Tax product imported from " mill" countries
Don't buckle to the steamship companies
Don't buckle to the longshoremen
Give companies tax incentives to move back
Give companies utility incentives to move back

JMO




I agree with you on MANY topics, not just this one.

let's take the metal working industry as an example, the old industrial shears, lathes and metalworking equipment is now considered way too dangerous for the unionised shops in the US, In China for example, a worker can lose a limb and he'll be replaced the same day on the same machine. no biggie

In the plastic injection industry, all those machines were shipped out a decade+ ago. There are practically none left here, the retooling and gearing up for production could take a decade to renew and most companies are not in a position to re-invest here.

Anyways, you get the point, things will not be easy to make America great again and I see a new avenue with robotics in manufacturing for the US, it's the only way drinker