Topic: Student loan forgiveness=money for votes!
Bart's photo
Fri 04/29/22 01:07 PM
Edited by Bart on Fri 04/29/22 01:09 PM
Joe Biden is mulling over the idea for tax payers to pay off student loans, since he’s losing the support of black and Hispanic voters he’s basically trying to buy the support of young voters. Only about 10% of these folks with outstanding student loans actually may need help but by far the majority of these folks can afford to pay their own bills. They were not forced to take these loans and at that time they knew they would have to repay these loan, just like a mortgage loan a car loan. This price tag would be about 1.2 trillion$$$. With inflation up and the GDP down, this is the last thing the government should do.

Rock's photo
Fri 04/29/22 02:38 PM
Peckerhead made student loan forgiveness a
campaign promise. (Unkept)

Stupid people will continue to believe the same
lies over, and over.

Smartazzjohn's photo
Fri 04/29/22 04:44 PM
I have a couple of questions.

1) Was it the parents or the k-12 "teachers" who failed to teach "higher education" students how loans work?

2) How do people who get an engineering degree, become lawyers, become doctors etc. not be able to pay back their student loans?

3) How is fair that people who paid off their student loans, the people who went to community colleges, the people who went to trade schools or never went to any secondary school to shoulder the burden of people who aren't meeting their fiduciary responsibility they ASSUMED??? When a person agrees to pay back a loan, gives their word to pay back a loan, how isn't it also a moral obligation?

4) Why are some people saying that this isn't a burden on tax payers since the money has already been spent by the government? The national debt owed by the government is the tax payers burden.

Douglas's photo
Sat 04/30/22 07:05 AM

I have a couple of questions.

But you asked four happy

All good questions to which those owing money that might be written off will not care to answer.

Politics has long been about bribes. I believe it was one of the founders of the USA who said something along the lines of "Democracy will last only so long as politicians don't realise they can bribe the electorate with their own money."

Most people, sadly, will vote for a penny off tax before anything else. To give them their due, there is often not a lot to tell between one political party and the next. Being radically different is now even outlawed in many nations.

TxsGal3333's photo
Sat 04/30/22 09:02 AM
Edited by TxsGal3333 on Sat 04/30/22 09:03 AM
Instead of paying off Student loans he needs to put a cap on what Colleges can charge for Classes and Books it is ridiculous what the cost is for those things...

With what Community Colleges verse what main Colleges charges~~

cleve's photo
Sat 04/30/22 09:33 AM


YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE LIBERAL SWAMP GETS

INVOLVED IN PEOPLES PRIVATE LIVES...THE BASTARDS

VOTED THEMSELVES IN CHARGED OF STUDENTS LOANS AND

CREATED AT MOUNTAIN OF PROBLEMS FOR THEM AND THERE

FAMILIES.....

Bart's photo
Sat 04/30/22 10:08 AM

Instead of paying off Student loans he needs to put a cap on what Colleges can charge for Classes and Books it is ridiculous what the cost is for those things...

With what Community Colleges verse what main Colleges charges~~

:thumbsup:

Smartazzjohn's photo
Sat 04/30/22 03:51 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Sat 04/30/22 03:55 PM

Instead of paying off Student loans he needs to put a cap on what Colleges can charge for Classes and Books it is ridiculous what the cost is for those things...

With what Community Colleges verse what main Colleges charges~~


I have long thought that colleges should be the ONLY place to get student loans.....and to allow students unable to pay back the loans to have the loans subject to bankrupt filings.
That would make colleges responsible for SELLING students a degree that ISN'T worth the cost.

I also think a "lemon law" should be passed that would allow students who can't get a job that allows them to pay back loans could sue schools to get back the money they paid for a defective product AKA the diploma they were SOLD.

In simpler terms make those responsible for student debt responsible the debt THEY created!!!!

no photo
Sat 04/30/22 05:10 PM

Instead of paying off Student loans he needs to put a cap on what Colleges can charge for Classes and Books it is ridiculous what the cost is for those things...

With what Community Colleges verse what main Colleges charges~~

I SO agree with that!

Loads of these colleges take full advantage of these green, navie kids. I knew one that was degreed in archaeology. No work in that field, but he was working- As a Lumber loader at 84 Lumber. They didn't pay anybody there, well. Unless he lived at home, he had to be broke most of the time.

Not one of these colleges that take advantages of their students, worth a plugged nickle.

Smartazzjohn's photo
Sat 04/30/22 06:35 PM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Sat 04/30/22 06:38 PM


Instead of paying off Student loans he needs to put a cap on what Colleges can charge for Classes and Books it is ridiculous what the cost is for those things...

With what Community Colleges verse what main Colleges charges~~

I SO agree with that!

Loads of these colleges take full advantage of these green, navie kids. I knew one that was degreed in archaeology. No work in that field, but he was working- As a Lumber loader at 84 Lumber. They didn't pay anybody there, well. Unless he lived at home, he had to be broke most of the time.

Not one of these colleges that take advantages of their students, worth a plugged nickle.


A lot of teachers in k-12 brainwash kids, and many parents, into thinking they NEED to go away to college.

My daughters high school chemistry teacher convince her and my ex-wife that she should live in the dorms at a school that was 25 minutes away from our house to get the "full college experience". I said it was stupid not to commute and a waste of money.

After coming home EVERY Friday night the 1st semester she wanted to commute her 2nd semester and I made her fulfill the commitment she made to her roommate. I was trying to instill in her that she had a moral obligations to do so.

Mr Good Guy's photo
Wed 08/24/22 09:58 AM
Unbelievable what Biden just did. The list of his out of touch policies just keeps growing.

How anyone but those spoiled college kids who got $10K wiped off their loans (for the rest of us to pay by the way) can still vote Democrat boggles the mind.


Toodygirl5's photo
Wed 08/24/22 11:44 AM
Democrat leaders like to give out taxpayers dollars to whatever they think that is important.

Thing is they don't think.

Bart's photo
Wed 08/24/22 02:45 PM
Buying votes ? This is what they do. Free insurance , free tuition, free phones. Now he claims how he is making cheap the price of insulin, this part of the inflation reduction act won’t take affect until 2026, not fair for folks that need it now.

dust4fun's photo
Thu 08/25/22 06:34 PM
This is what the world is coming to, handing out participation awards for losers. I would be all for paying off student loans for those whom are fiscally responsible. If you have never missed a payment or had a deferment you should get $20k, if you had one or the other give them $10k. But to give money to deadbeats that don't pay their debts, or were too dumb or lazy to understand how a loan worked or that you needed to get a real job to pay for that education, that is just teaching them they don't have to try. As far as some people's worries of adding to the inflation, I don't see that being an issue because of the number of POS's that haven't made a single payment thru the entire pandemic even while getting stimulus money. This isn't really going to free up money for these people because they have been irresponsibly spending all their lives. Sad when the people who already got free money get $20k on top of what they already got. Now colleges are encouraging students to apply for food stamps and rent assistance. Nobody respects "free" money, it just leads to them wanting more "free" money.

Mortman's photo
Mon 08/29/22 07:49 PM

This is what the world is coming to, handing out participation awards for losers. I would be all for paying off student loans for those whom are fiscally responsible. If you have never missed a payment or had a deferment you should get $20k, if you had one or the other give them $10k. But to give money to deadbeats that don't pay their debts, or were too dumb or lazy to understand how a loan worked or that you needed to get a real job to pay for that education, that is just teaching them they don't have to try. As far as some people's worries of adding to the inflation, I don't see that being an issue because of the number of POS's that haven't made a single payment thru the entire pandemic even while getting stimulus money. This isn't really going to free up money for these people because they have been irresponsibly spending all their lives. Sad when the people who already got free money get $20k on top of what they already got. Now colleges are encouraging students to apply for food stamps and rent assistance. Nobody respects "free" money, it just leads to them wanting more "free" money.
Student loans are not forgivable in a bankruptcy, so even if the payee is a deadbeat she/he is not getting out from it. IRL, the program is just relief from the bottom $10-20K of debt. Wealthy borrowers won't be eligible, and Pell Grant recipients have a whole host of other steps to qualify. Lastly, if it's buying votes, then it's very clever, since there's no requirement to even vote, much less vote Democratic, so even MAGA-heads can get it if they have student loan debt.

Winx's photo
Wed 08/31/22 08:21 AM

Buying votes ? This is what they do. Free insurance , free tuition, free phones. Now he claims how he is making cheap the price of insulin, this part of the inflation reduction act won’t take affect until 2026, not fair for folks that need it now.


Actually, "The FCC established the Lifeline program in 1984 during the Reagan Administration to provide qualified individuals with discounts on phone service."

Bart's photo
Wed 08/31/22 04:28 PM
Even qualified people that have been making payments since Aug.1 2020 will get a automatic refund of all those payments they made…. WTF!.. How about our government invest a few of those billions to our southern border and the CBP to hire enough agents to properly secure our border . Just a thought.

no photo
Wed 08/31/22 10:38 PM

Most people, sadly, will vote for a penny off tax before anything else.

Don't at least the majority of American voters always vote for the same party no matter what!

Being radically different is now even outlawed in many nations.

An example or two would be interesting to give.