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what the hell...
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It is irrelevant what nationality the shooter was what is is why did he do it? The point of it is he was Military and had made his rank up the ladder. Something had to make him break..... it has been told due to he was fixing to be deployed to Iraq. At this time there is no talk that it had anything to do with his Religious beliefs therefore it is irrelevant of what nationality he was. And I highly doubt the post was deleted due to it being suggested that it was due to religious beliefs. You were very discriminatory and offensive at the end of that post, both of which is not allowed int he forums. |
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Spent most of today waiting on word of my nephew stationed at Ft. Hood. He is safe.  Glad to hear all is well for your family... Always nice to hear good news when something like this happens..  It sure is 
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one very simple reason: The Major stood at attention, raised his right hand and swore to do his duty in the Army, voluntarily. By volunteering, he gave up his legal right to protest political beliefs. His personal belief on whether the war was legal or not doesnt matter.
Shooter was a Muslim. funny I thought the shooter was an American Army officer Thank You Fran! That is exactly the reason the United States has so many problems with other countries, because we can not stop from stereotyping and classifying people Stereo-typins is one of the worst forms of discrimination imaginable folks, be wary of it! Why would these morons send someone overseas when he does not believe in an illegal war ?!!!. |
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Edited by
daniel48706
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Thu 11/05/09 05:15 PM
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original post I was quoting got reemoved while I was rebutting it, so I am removing my response as I quoted it.
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I am glad to hear that Txs.
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Shooter was a Muslim. funny I thought the shooter was an American Army officer Thank You Fran! That is exactly the reason the United States has so many problems with other countries, because we can not stop from stereotyping and classifying people Stereo-typins is one of the worst forms of discrimination imaginable folks, be wary of it! |
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Profiles with no pictures
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i mew ferociously at them, and then pet them, and squeeze them, and hug them, and rock them back and forth, and chase them around in the woods, and call them Bob. roflmao, my kids were JUST playing elmer fudd and daffy duck, playacting the classic rabbit season/duck season kapow scene when I opened this thread and read your post ;-) In response t the op, I respond as long as I like what I have seen prior. |
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So long as this is something she wants to do, and is capable of handling (which obviously she is), then I don't see why you shouldn't allow it. I had the same opportunity twice, once in second grade and again in third, but my parents refused to allow it. citing the issues of social devlopment, and being with my own age group.
I can understand their reasonings, but one grade would not have made a differance in teh age/peer groups and it may well have kept me challanged enough that I had not said screw it (lol yes I actually said worse, but this is mingle after all), and quit applying myself. So, I say give her the support she needs, keep a parental eye out for her to make sure she doesnt overdue herself, and just let events work their way through. And congratulatoins on such a smart and well-raised child! |
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That's a very good question Peledac, and unfortunately I can tell you why they are able to do so. it is because the soldiers are deployed for so long, and live in such horrid conditions ( most of the time encessary during a deployment), and see such emotionally disturbing scenes, that they need decomp time at least equal to the amount of time they spent deployed, and they do not get it. Soldiers are refused Mental health treatment at the best of times, and made to feel inferior and childish if they seek it on their own.
I have WATCHED this happen, over and over again, watched my ex-wife go throguh the process herself to just be denied proper medical treatment. It is a terrible tragedy that CAN be, if not averted, then at least decreased in a major way. genreal just confremed that the gunmen were miltary \ Yes I heard that!! Nail them to the wall! How can a soldier turn his back on his fellow soldier? Looking into the eyes of your comrade and kill him/her is despicable. Trust is going to be a huge issue here. What a terrible tragedy, so many lives destroyed. |
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yuo sre correct in that certain regs and rules are overlooked by certain commands and such so long as nothing comes of it int he end; it is different for each comand on what is overlooked and what isnt.
HOWEVER, if I understood your one statement correctly, you suggested that the commander has the capability of changing the name of the company,battalion, whatever level we are talking about. This is not the case. The commander does not have the authority to choose the name of the unit. Yes they may have a name they call themselves, but it is not official, and they use the official name whenever they are dealing with someone outside of the unit. In regards to making a patch or something for the uniform to represent this, and say that no other military man or woman would know what it meant is utter nonsense. The ONLY thing allowed on the military battle-fatigue uniform (the camo-colored uniform, is what has been directly approved by the Department of Defense. This is something that can not be arbitrarily changed by each unit. A unit can choose to have unit t-shirts or sweatshirts, etc made up for unit events in order to identify the unit and personell in a non-formal setting, such as a company family picnic; in this case the unit may have the company emblem placed on the back of it for use during company events, so as to identify the unit and it's members. Same for the battalion level, and I am assuming an entire post can do this as well. BUT with the actual military uniform, strict conformance to the department of defense guidelines is followed. if it was a motto, or company standard (flag) then I would agree with you about it being anywhere. However I garuntee you it is not being worn on the uniforms by ANYONE where it can be seen at all as you can be given a field grade article fifteen for something like that, which at maximum consists of 45 days confinement, 45 days loss of pay and up to two ranks in reduction, as well as forty five days extra duty. There is NOWHERE that a single unit or company or even battalion could get away with wearing something like this as there are other units, companies, battalions etc all around them. Now, I am sure there are groups of soldiers (mainly kids) who think they are hotshot and tough badasses that are in agreeance with this; however, I promise youthey are not wearing that tag where it can be seen, and they are nto likely to be having it anywhere near their persons or possesions because they do not want to get hit for it. I don't know if that photo is legitimate or not but it is not too hard for me to believe.Anyone who has been in the military knows that his unit or command typically has a motto and a flag posted around the command.You don't have to look too hard to find drawings or paintings either painted on the equipment(such as on a aircraft tail or on a tank)often depecting things such as death and destruction(such as the "death from above" painted on the USAF C-130 gunships) or superiority along with that commands number.These are not endorced by the military but much like a lot of things in the military most people just don't give a crap including the high brass to do anything about it. There is no way I believe this patch would be standard issue on a Army uniform but I do belive there is probably a small command or two that are wearing these patches including the commanding officers who are probably getting away with it because they are in the middle of nowhere and everyone is in agreement with it. I don't agree because although they have general military rules that all soldiers and commands must follow we all know every command and every commander of that command has his or her personal rules and beliefs.When I was in the Navy our command probably broke just about every rule in the book at one time or another.I can remember several times reporting for duty in nothing but a white T-shirt,shorts,and flip flops.I can remember doing things like gambling,watching porn movies,and hazing new members on our command.Not only did our commander not write us up a lot of times he wanted to grade how we hazed the newbies.Could we put things on our uniforms like we what this solder did?We never did but I am sure he wouldn't care about it non the less. Despite all the mischief and rule breaking we did it was strictly confided to our Command.We never broke any rules off the Command and when we would get inspections by the fleet Commanders we got everything in order and looked and acted like we were supposed to act. Getting back to the main story...I understand that there is other battalions in the area but non of them are going to know what that patch on his uniform means as it could just be a identification for the unit which they are free to rename as long as the Commander oks it.A good example would be for say a battalion who are a bunch devoted Christian holy rollers and lets just say they battalion call name was JN316 4th division.To the people in the company the real call name would be John 3:16(as a bible verse)but since it was in code nobody would know about it.Even if they did find out they could just lie and say it was just a random number and call letters much the same way this company can deny that their company unit ID # is associated with going against the constitution.You can bring the whole Command including the Commander into court and charge them but it will never stick and it would never happen anyways.I worked for the Army last year and we talked about this subject and we all agreed nobody would turn on American citizens.A great deal if not all the military is on the side of the Americans and our country.They could give a crap less about our Government,the President,and our worthless politicians. |
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justifiable homicide???
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Not just the SPCA, but also local animals rights froups and activists. They might be willing to step forward to help withthe cost as well.
so i talked to the police this morning.. there's nothing they can do unless i dig my tut up and formaly ask the vet for a toxicology report and i cant afford it now . the bill was already close to $600 and it cleaned me out..and i just dont think i could bring myself to dig him up now....locks are changed now to...they said my accusations were just speculation without hard proof Try talking to the SPCA. They may have a vet that will do it for free so that they can prosecute the guy. The worst they could do is say no. Then at least you know you have tried everything. I know if someone did that to my dog I would not rest until I had some sort of justice. I am so sorry about your cat. |
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what would you have done?
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OK Fran you just officially confused me lol. Maybe it's the beer I just finished though :-)
You were wrong Daniel to hit him!!!!!!!!! you were so wrong to hit him Daniel!!!!!!!!!!!! because I'd have done the exact same thing |
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if it was a motto, or company standard (flag) then I would agree with you about it being anywhere. However I garuntee you it is not being worn on the uniforms by ANYONE where it can be seen at all as you can be given a field grade article fifteen for something like that, which at maximum consists of 45 days confinement, 45 days loss of pay and up to two ranks in reduction, as well as forty five days extra duty. There is NOWHERE that a single unit or company or even battalion could get away with wearing something like this as there are other units, companies, battalions etc all around them.
Now, I am sure there are groups of soldiers (mainly kids) who think they are hotshot and tough badasses that are in agreeance with this; however, I promise youthey are not wearing that tag where it can be seen, and they are nto likely to be having it anywhere near their persons or possesions because they do not want to get hit for it. I don't know if that photo is legitimate or not but it is not too hard for me to believe.Anyone who has been in the military knows that his unit or command typically has a motto and a flag posted around the command.You don't have to look too hard to find drawings or paintings either painted on the equipment(such as on a aircraft tail or on a tank)often depecting things such as death and destruction(such as the "death from above" painted on the USAF C-130 gunships) or superiority along with that commands number.These are not endorced by the military but much like a lot of things in the military most people just don't give a crap including the high brass to do anything about it. There is no way I believe this patch would be standard issue on a Army uniform but I do belive there is probably a small command or two that are wearing these patches including the commanding officers who are probably getting away with it because they are in the middle of nowhere and everyone is in agreement with it. |
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justifiable homicide???
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all I can suggest is report him to your local animal shelter, animal rights activists, and possibly police station. Hang onto the bottle of poison as evidence, and give it to whomever you report this to. If you buried the cat in the back yard, I would suggest concidering the possibility of taking the body back to the vet and seeing if he can do blood work to prove the poisoning.
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what would you have done?
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oh I talked to him about it as soon as we got home. Asked him why he got smacked, and whether r not he felt he had been wrong for what he did. I also made sure he knew I loved him, but that I would not tolerate behavior like that from him. Good for you,,,theres your balance (wink) For the non hitters,,Im just curious how many of you have kids? When it comes to discipline, one size does not fit all. Some children only need a look, some can be 'explained' to death,,and some,,need a good whack:) It is quite amazing isn't it? How two kids, in the same household, raised together, can have such different personalities. One can be the straight-A type, never have to be told to do homework or study. And the other is disorganized, constantly getting into trouble at school. Before I was a parent, I always said I would treat my kids equally. But I have learned, that is almost impossible, when they are so different in how they respond to rules. I have a much more "hands-off" style with my youngest, because she parents herself in so many ways. So very true... |
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It is also a good way to loose custody of your child and really screw him up by being in the system. Not to mention making him homeless while you sit in jail on assault charges and loose your job. Maybe where you are from that is the case, but where I am it is not the case. The police and CPS (overall) happen to be very reasonable and understand what is and is not abuse. Most of the workers do NOT try t or hrow their weight around, and when one does they WILL be fired and or disciplined severely for it. Tog ive one example, onetime, my son decided to bare his arse at the bus stop in front of everyone, so I bent him over me kneww and paddles his happy little arse, while his pants were dwon, and then pulled them back up for him, thus embarassing the hell out of him big time. One lady called the cops for my doing so after she tried threatening me and i told her to either close her mouth and go away or I would call the cops on her. The cop who investigated along with his chief both investigated; went to the school first to check my son then came to my house. Asked me what happened, checked with the other two parents that had been present, came back to me and thanked me for providing the appropriate disipline a child needs to not become a thug in today's society. Specifically stated I obviously cared about my son enough to do what he needed done, and to not let anyone tell me otherwise. So, maybe you live in a backwards neighborhood where it is illegal to discipline your child (like California, where you can note even legally scold your child without being prosecuted for verbal abuse). For all parents who don't believe in spanking or smacking a child, I suggest you study, not what "experts" tell you, but what is really the truth. Go around and do a research project of your own, and find out how many of todays good citizens and model adults were spanked and smacked as children, and how many of our criminals and thugs were nto spanked or smacked, or even outright disciplined at all. |
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oh I talked to him about it as soon as we got home. Asked him why he got smacked, and whether r not he felt he had been wrong for what he did. I also made sure he knew I loved him, but that I would not tolerate behavior like that from him.
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You are absolutely correct Equis, and the sad truth is our common soldier (in the army anyway) Is turned into an automaton as much as possible. And while I agree that this is neccesarry to a certain degree (you have to know the soldeir is going to do exactly what they are told no matter what while you are under fire; there is NO time to stop and question the lawfulness of an order), there is NO excuse for it in garrison, and little excuse for it elsewhere.
When you find that rare soldier who is willing to stand up and say "no this is wrong and not legal" you see that soldier get punished for disobeying an order more times than not, because it helps reinforce the automaton mind set; the other soldiers see him disobey the order, and then get punished for it whether he was right or wrong. This tells thim they are screwed no matter what. I remember when I was outside Bosnia. A colonel and his seceratary were found in certain compromising acts at 1 in the morning. She got a dishonorable discharge (adultry; perversion or whatever you wanna call it; the army only recognizes the missionary style as a natural and thus legal form of copulation; relations with a superior officer). The colonel? He was transferred back tot he states where he accepted a command post. What does this tell everybody? |
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Time to get out.
Edited by
daniel48706
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Tue 11/03/09 03:51 PM
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If we don't fight the Clementines over there, we'll eventually have to fight them here. -Kerry O. hey hey now kerry-o I know your old enough to know better. Why cant we all justr emain friends? for example: "oh my darlin' oh my darlin; oh my farlin; clementine..." hehehehe edit: forgot to close the bold command lol |
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For some kids that approach works; however, SOME kids need a good smack once in a while (as do some adults lol. Hey NO!!! MsHArmony leave me alone!!!!!! lol). Also keep in mind my son is nine years old and already entering puberty, which I KNOW moist of his friends are not doing yet, if any. And with puberty you get the mouth. The key is to use whatever is effective with your child)ren) immediately and every time and they will stop fairly fast. To this day he stillg ets sullen with me, but he has yet to even think twice before opening his mouth and mouthing off to another adult.
when a parent has to become physical with a child to get them to do something, or in this case to refrain from doing something then the lines of communication have gone haywire somewhere along the line. What your son did was total blatant disrespect, and definitely uncalled for, the fact that he even uttered those words out of his mouth is troubling in of itself. Would I have cuffed him, certainly not, what would I have done.....sat him down and explained to him how ill mannered he was, and told him my disappointment, while also telling him that the woman he disrespected may one day be in a position to give him a job or recommend him for one and would he deserve it due to his actions. Then I would have removed everything from his room and grounded him for a week. and if he played sports, he wouldn't for that week |
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