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Mon 01/28/13 09:17 PM

Not all men have sex on their mind all the time and there are some women that that's all they think about. It all depends on the individual.



Id like to still believe that... but when youve been told that before, and watch the opposite happen, its discouraging

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Mon 01/28/13 04:50 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Mon 01/28/13 04:53 PM
"There are outright lies and there's twisting the truth. You are unlikely to meet anybody that is completely open and honest from the start. They may not even be being honest with themselves.
There are compulsive liars though and they are like trolls."


I am however, extremely open and honest about everything right from the start. I don't care what it is. I'm not going to waste someone's time.
This is why I hide lol Too many of these types out there. Not wasting any more of my life on romantic relationships.

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Mon 01/28/13 04:32 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Mon 01/28/13 04:33 PM
Btw... I used to BE a pretty big liar myself.
I ran into someone that helped me see what I was doing and how it made me look, and the trouble, stress, it was causing...the energy it took from me. The dignity and integrity it takes to be a person who can be trusted. I cared enough for this person to change. Not over night, but I did get it finished. I still pop off with the wrong thing sometimes, but I go back with my tail between my legs and fess up. I know the more I have to do that, the less I will be believed in the beginning, so I avoid the crap out of it.
I'm saying this, cause people CAN and DO change...I did....and hence my waiting 3 plus years for this guy to change after he said he really wanted to change. I guess I found my time limit with him. He's still pestering me and telling me that I'm the horrible one for not waiting for him to change.

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Mon 01/28/13 04:26 PM


ok so everyone lies.... got that.

How about I add a twist?
The severity of a lie....different?
The frequency of lies....different?

I'm asking because I'm being told that everyone lies by my ex...whom is an ex for being an impostor type of liar. Someone who paints himself from the beginning as something he is NOT kind of liar. But will also lie about whether he went fishing that day or not. Liar liar liar all the time lying about one thing or the other. I understand that everyone can lie from time to time. In my book though, if you lie to me...you come back with the truth asap and tell me you lied, and that you are sorry, and will try harder to muster the courage to not do it again. Then you get forgiveness. Otherwise? If I have to catch you, it's totally different.

To me what lying is??? A lack of courage to tell it like it is. If you did it? FESS it! If you don't want to have to? Then don't do stupid crap to cause the temptation to lie in the first place.
Simple.

Here's simple... trust your own intuition.
Acknowledge that it all hurt you deeply.
Quit expectly liars to start telling the truth,
just because you've come to an epiphany.

(But don't hate liars... focus on loving yerself. And your intuition.)


I was abused for years... It will take some time to drop the hatred when I speak of this man.

Otherwise, I'm pleased as punch the b**ch is gone! yaaaay!!!!:banana:

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Mon 01/28/13 04:23 PM

Someone sounds somewhat angry...I know how you feel. And that's no lie.

Twists, okay:

The severity of a lie....it matters (to me)
The frequency of lies....they matter (to me)

Point #1-If there is no way in hell you can logically justify the lie in which someone has told, then that lie is too much for you. Tell the person, and if they concede to the fact that they lied, apologize, maybe produce some flowers, and NEVER DO IT AGAIN, then you should work on finding some forgiveness. If not, Guy's song comes to mind, "Now I'm sayin bye bye to you..."

Point #2-Once the lie threshold had been reached, and you find yourself questioning most of what comes out of their mouth, talk about it, and again, if no resolution can be sought, they need to gee-oh. Life is challenging enough without having to decipher, decode, analyze, and certify if something that is said is the truth or not. I'm tired just from typing it, I can't imagine doing it! (any more) This is why somebody don't live here anymore.

rant

Summary: You're right, but maybe it ain't really "simple" so much as it isn't that hard...



$hit yea... .finally...I thought so. I thought I was dealing with too much.
"Life is challenging enough without having to decipher, decode, analyze, and certify if something that is said is the truth or not. I'm tired just from typing it, I can't imagine doing it!"

The a$$ hat I was with told me 3.5 years worth of lies. All the kinds you described. Then the tard thought is was a good idea to get impatient with my trust coming back....psh... really?
No exaggeration whatsoever.

Thank you.

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Mon 01/28/13 03:53 PM
ok so everyone lies.... got that.

How about I add a twist?
The severity of a lie....different?
The frequency of lies....different?

I'm asking because I'm being told that everyone lies by my ex...whom is an ex for being an impostor type of liar. Someone who paints himself from the beginning as something he is NOT kind of liar. But will also lie about whether he went fishing that day or not. Liar liar liar all the time lying about one thing or the other. I understand that everyone can lie from time to time. In my book though, if you lie to me...you come back with the truth asap and tell me you lied, and that you are sorry, and will try harder to muster the courage to not do it again. Then you get forgiveness. Otherwise? If I have to catch you, it's totally different.

To me what lying is??? A lack of courage to tell it like it is. If you did it? FESS it! If you don't want to have to? Then don't do stupid crap to cause the temptation to lie in the first place.
Simple.

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Mon 01/28/13 02:23 PM
I'm leaving this thread before I turn lesbian or something sick

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Mon 01/28/13 02:06 PM
"Did u not say "ladies men will never want sex with just you anyway"? That makes it sound absolute and like every male is singled out.

Battle of the sexes :confused:"

I did... I was exaggerating to make a point of the severity.
My bad...I know better.

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Mon 01/28/13 02:01 PM

Single. sad


sorry, I misunderstood.
So hey... how YOU doin lol

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Mon 01/28/13 01:55 PM

Not in denial, I love the one I am with, and I am with only one.


Taken.... exactly

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Mon 01/28/13 01:55 PM

thats the hoop jumping i was talking about... you want us to figure it out without any help from you... should be a 2 way street, but all i've seen is 1 way... hers


There are many women out there that "help" men figure it out.
Spell it out....even shout it out lol
Face it... in the animal kingdom the male has to do all the work to get to mate with a female... only human men have vocal chords to complain about the process. Gawd. slaphead

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Mon 01/28/13 01:36 PM
How can a couple stay together with one person always lying about things? Big things, small things...does it matter when there's always one lie after the other? What do you think of partners that lie all the time?

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Mon 01/28/13 01:28 PM




Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


No, I am too busy loving her to think of other women.


ONE nice guy left...better snag him up....however, I've heard that before... you could just be in denial lol

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Mon 01/28/13 01:10 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Mon 01/28/13 01:11 PM





To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


it's a compliment, not disrespectful. i see your part of the she-ra man-haters club...


What is a compliment?
To be wanted and used for sex?
Why would you say I'm a man hater?
Did I say I hated men?
Did I fail to reverse only wanting sex from women/money from men point?
Did I lie that men see other women when they are having sex with a woman?
You made up your own mind.



Maybe he meant it's a compliment if a man wants to make love to you. Are you of the opinion that men will just do it with anything in a skirt?

Why do you assume that men are always going to be thinking about other women anyway? You even seem to be saying here that all men cheat on their partners.

That along with your references to mysogeny does make you come across as a bit of a man hater. But that's cool. I've got some opinions about women as well and sometimes I feel like they were put on this Earth to make my life a misery but it still doesn't put me off them. Can't live with them and can't live without them as "they" say.


most women have a complex about themselves anyway, so even when a man pays any attention to them, they think that he's just a skirt chaser... but thats their problem, not mine. i'm not going to jump through a bunch of hoops for any woman...


Key word...."most" women have a complex. Didn't I just get corrected for doing this?
Point is, most women don't want all your attention focused on her skirt.
We want gentleman that care to know who we are. What our lives are about. Not just a pair to have sex with.

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Mon 01/28/13 01:07 PM




To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


it's a compliment, not disrespectful. i see your part of the she-ra man-haters club...


What is a compliment?
To be wanted and used for sex?
Why would you say I'm a man hater?
Did I say I hated men?
Did I fail to reverse only wanting sex from women/money from men point?
Did I lie that men see other women when they are having sex with a woman?
You made up your own mind.



Maybe he meant it's a compliment if a man wants to make love to you. Are you of the opinion that men will just do it with anything in a skirt?

Why do you assume that men are always going to be thinking about other women anyway? You even seem to be saying here that all men cheat on their partners.

That along with your references to mysogeny does make you come across as a bit of a man hater. But that's cool. I've got some opinions about women as well and sometimes I feel like they were put on this Earth to make my life a misery but it still doesn't put me off them. Can't live with them and can't live without them as "they" say.


Did you also miss who I was addressing with my first post?
Go back and read the first line.

"Why do you assume that men are always going to be thinking about other women anyway?"
Ask them.... take a poll.... start a thread and ask....
I've done enough research.

"mysogeny"?? - Misogyny means to hate men.....
I may have pointed out something very distressing about men, that you may or may not relate to, but I did not show any hatred. Jumping to conclusions usually means someone is feeling guilty about something.
This was directed to the male posters agreeing that women are only good for sex anyway. Why are you talking to me if this isn't you?

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Mon 01/28/13 12:57 PM




To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


it's a compliment, not disrespectful. i see your part of the she-ra man-haters club...


Why would you say I'm a man hater?
Did I say I hated men?
Did I fail to reverse only wanting sex from women/money from men point?
Did I lie that men see other women when they are having sex with a woman?
You made up your own mind.



you didn't have to say it, it's obvious... but to each their own, you probably have good reasons, men make it easy...i only know what i'm thinking of during sex, i cannot say what other people are thinking, nor would i worry about it. if i'm lucky enough to be having sex with her, then she can think about anything she wants...


"if i'm lucky enough to be having sex with her, then she can think about anything she wants..."

Really? Are you sure? What if you REALLY loved this woman, and she had to close her eyes and think of another man from work because YOU weren't who she really wanted to be with? Please....do not tell me you wouldn't feel bad about that. Feelings are there for a reason. I dare you to cohabit with someone who had parents that didn't have feelings. There's a natural order to things. It's worked for thousands of years. A LOT of men are teetering on the edge of not having any natural feelings for women any longer. If not you, then look at the Texan-dude's posts and other's like him and answer why we women must deal with men like that?

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Mon 01/28/13 12:36 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Mon 01/28/13 12:49 PM


To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


I don't like how u made this absolute. Not all men are the same. Some look for the emotional connect first. Don't get me wrong if she's down so am I but it doesn't mean it was all my idea. Next time only single out those who are like that.

And the last girl I dated and slept with I cared for. I only saw her. Why try to search for beauty when it has been found?(We weren't compatible to many things going on and we were young that's why it ended)


I am sure you know enough men to know that I am right for the majority. Let's not get all picky. If you aren't like how I describe, then realize I'm not talking to you then am I? Don't put yourself there and get offended if this is not you. Did I not address the men I am talking about in the beginning of my post?

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Mon 01/28/13 12:30 PM
Edited by mountainwatergirl on Mon 01/28/13 12:32 PM


To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:


it's a compliment, not disrespectful. i see your part of the she-ra man-haters club...


What is a compliment?
To be wanted and used for sex?
Why would you say I'm a man hater?
Did I say I hated men?
Did I fail to reverse only wanting sex from women/money from men point?
Did I lie that men see other women when they are having sex with a woman?
You made up your own mind.

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Mon 01/28/13 12:14 PM
I am single, let me count the ways

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Mon 01/28/13 11:46 AM
To all the men that only want sex from women:

Why is it bad to only want sex from women?

Because it's a disgrace to us. We want to feel singled out and selected. That we are the only one you want. This is what all us good women want. You're after the diseased and slutty to put up with sex, boot, there's the door.
This reversed onto men would be like this:
All women want is your money. Now deal with it.
That's all we want from you.
Paycheck, boot, there's the door.

Oops... wait... we women can make all the money we want.
So what do we need men for?

Ladies, men will never just want sex with only you anyway. Even when you are lying underneath him thinking you are sharing the wonderful act of making love, staring up at him with loving eyes... he's thinking of other women anyway. :tongue:

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