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Sat 04/28/12 10:49 PM







According to his own words he is unpatriotic.



which words are those?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U



this one is good too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqKnVr3I9q8&feature=related



paraphrasing isnt quite the same as lying

brandeis quote ""Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman"


good luck defining 'pork barrel' or 'corporate welfare' in an absolute term to qualify or disqualify the statement,,,


as to exposing tax breaks and public meetings, those were unfulfilled, and most unlikely in the current political climate when they dont even want the names of contributors to campaigns and political advertising exposed,,,


a lie is a lie, no matter how you look at it... just because you think he is a god doesn't mean he is. and you have to admit, he is the most unpatriotic president ever, not saluting our flag, bowing to muslim nationals, rasing the debt 7 trillion dollars the first 100 days he was in office, refusing to show a birth certificate and then putting out a false one(then lies about that too)... our own president wont respect our flag... name any other president that hated our flag?


You took the words right out of my mouth



he salutes our flag,,,
other presidents have bowed to muslim nationals,
other presidents have raised the debt(and for that matter, actually, the WHOLE CONGRESS raised it and would be likewise 'unpatriotic'
they still havent proven that OBAMA put out a false certificate, as those are requested from and received from the HEALTH DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS,,,

I dont know any president that hates a cloth with our colors on it,,,including this one,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 10:46 PM



But really, not long ago there was a census among all members of the dutch parlement questioning whom they would vote in an national american election. Obama would win overwhelmingly!
The majority of the dutch parlement is comprised by white males.



I stand corrected, OBamas lowest support demographic amongst AMERICANS are white males,,,


my dad is an avid obama supporter... but only because he hates bush so much, like most liberals...




I didnt say NO white males support him, just that white males in america give him the least support,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 10:45 PM







According to his own words he is unpatriotic.



which words are those?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U



I think the context was comparing irresponsibility to patriotism, not debt,,,


What? He said generating that debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic. Those were his exact words. Writing a check to China paid for by our sons and daughters. So sorry but you can't flip this. By his own words he is more unpatriotic then Bush.



not really, probably why its only a forty second snippet , not allowing for the true CONTEXT of the words to be understood,,,


in the CONTEXT of BUSHS irresponsibility, he came in with a SURPLUS,, adding the debt

like, IF I have fifty thousand in the bank, and then I take out seventy grand in loans,,,

as opposed to if I am in debt ninety grand and take out seventy grand in loans

the latter is how people do business daily, and in fact, how collectors will regularly SUGGEST people do to make sure they get their money

the former is unnecessary borrowing for what you could pay in cash,,




if your 90,000 in debt, no one will give you a loan.... thats why our credit rating has dropped 2 times while he is in office.



really? noone told donald trump......

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Sat 04/28/12 10:34 PM


lawyers cant decide whether there is enough evidence for a court case if they are not PRIVVY to what evidence there is,,,,as in, a part of the case in question THEMSELVES,,,,


According to lawyers who have seen the Affidavit of Probable Cause, there wasn't enough in there to prosecute and the document didn't include exculpatory evidence, which is required by law.


those who are conducting the investigation and looking at the evidence disagree,,,,


You are wrong. The police department felt that there was not enough evidence to prosecute. The lawyers I was talking about, have seen all of the evidence available, it's all in the Affidavit of Probable Cause. The prosecutor who wrote the Affidavit of Probable Cause is up for reelection. The Judge who accepted the affidavit is also up for reelection and she had to recuse herself. This stinks to high heaven.



an affadavit of probable cause does not have 'evidence',,,


it is merely a statement of why charges should be filed

the police department was trying to get a WARRANT and was stopped from doing so

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Sat 04/28/12 04:13 PM



seems just mentioning race relations or racism puts people on a defensive where the very idea is old fashioned and no longer existent

,,,,


I agree. There are people who are out to deny that racism is even a problem today, who obvious want to discredit sharpton. I think the truth is the middle.

Just because sharpton lies about race issues doesn't mean we don't have race issues.

Just because many of sharptons detractors are in denial about race issues, doesn't mean they are wrong in their criticism of sharpton.


Have you ever dated a black woman? Let me tell you something, racism is very real. Because I don't think Zimmerman committed a crime and I think Al Sharpton is a parasite, that doesn't mean I don't think racism exists. There are racists of every color, I have seen that myself. I just think it's very bigoted and racist to assume that Zimmerman wasn't prosecuted because Martin was black. Lawyers on all sides of the political spectrum have gone on record that there isn't enough evidence to take this to court. Now because a Judge and a Prosecutor who are both up for re-election have pushed the case through into the court system, a man who shouldn't have been charged in the first place could end up in prison. That's just plain wrong and should offend your sense of justice.



lawyers cant decide whether there is enough evidence for a court case if they are not PRIVVY to what evidence there is,,,,as in, a part of the case in question THEMSELVES,,,,


those who are conducting the investigation and looking at the evidence disagree,,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 04:11 PM


seems just mentioning race relations or racism puts people on a defensive where the very idea is old fashioned and no longer existent

,,,,


I agree. There are people who are out to deny that racism is even a problem today, who obvious want to discredit sharpton. I think the truth is the middle.

Just because sharpton lies about race issues doesn't mean we don't have race issues.

Just because many of sharptons detractors are in denial about race issues, doesn't mean they are wrong in their criticism of sharpton.


I agree. I am not a Sharpton fan/follower, but I Believe this is an instance of him stadning for something I do agree with,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 02:46 PM





According to his own words he is unpatriotic.



which words are those?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U



I think the context was comparing irresponsibility to patriotism, not debt,,,


What? He said generating that debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic. Those were his exact words. Writing a check to China paid for by our sons and daughters. So sorry but you can't flip this. By his own words he is more unpatriotic then Bush.



not really, probably why its only a forty second snippet , not allowing for the true CONTEXT of the words to be understood,,,


in the CONTEXT of BUSHS irresponsibility, he came in with a SURPLUS,, adding the debt

like, IF I have fifty thousand in the bank, and then I take out seventy grand in loans,,,

as opposed to if I am in debt ninety grand and take out seventy grand in loans

the latter is how people do business daily, and in fact, how collectors will regularly SUGGEST people do to make sure they get their money

the former is unnecessary borrowing for what you could pay in cash,,


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Sat 04/28/12 02:39 PM



I stand corrected, OBamas lowest support demographic amongst AMERICANS are white males,,,

And that is because...?



who knows,,,? just reporting the numbers

an answer to your question would be a big ASSumption that would no doubt bring about more defensive responses,,,,(not from you specifically, but in general)

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Sat 04/28/12 01:56 PM

But really, not long ago there was a census among all members of the dutch parlement questioning whom they would vote in an national american election. Obama would win overwhelmingly!
The majority of the dutch parlement is comprised by white males.



I stand corrected, OBamas lowest support demographic amongst AMERICANS are white males,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:53 PM
we cant always assume that occasional misspelling in a casual forum means someone doesnt take more care in OTHER situations that are more formal ......

now, CONSTANT misspelling, may be a different issue,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:51 PM
lol,,,16 million people?

wow, seems like you would stay too busy to be on this website

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Sat 04/28/12 01:46 PM



I dont know how to determine the demographic support for Obama in the Netherlands,,,

well, for one you could just take my word for it?



I would if I thought you knew everyone in the Netherlands or their opinions,,,


but thats just not likely to me,, so ID prefer some actual objective numbers,,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:42 PM



OBAmas largest support base is females and blacks,, his lowest is white males,,,


that may be true in the US, but that is definitely not the case in the Netherlands: Obama is still very popular among the (white) elite: men and women alike



I dont know how to determine the demographic support for Obama in the Netherlands,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:40 PM



I consider myself average and have family I could borrow 20 grand from if I needed to. In fact I had a cousin offering me that loan if I needed it a few mknths ago. I needed a new car for my job and since I was over seas and had no prior job in the Us recently some banks might nit offer a loan. I got a loan but the offer from the family was still available. I just rather do it myself.



the 'average' person cant borrow 20000 from their parents, if you can, that makes you above average,,,,

the average person doesnt have an extra twenty grand laying around


You sure? After working only 2 years 1 in the US and 1 in Japan I had that. My gf who is from Korea but lived in Japan had double that. My grandmother who is retired has it. I don't see how we don't qualify as average. All my family made their own money. My gf too. We just saved our money. My parents instilled those values. I got an allowance but even then they wouldn't let me spend my money unless I could show them I had extra money saved up.



the average american doesnt have the income you do,,,

the median income for an american female is 25.6 grand
for a male its 37.2 grand

to have saved 2 years and had 20000, the female would have had to live off of 15.6 grand a year (rent, car, utilities, clothing, food of less than 1250 a month)

the male 27.2 grand (rent, car, utilities, clothing, food of about 2000 a month)

its rarely going to happen, in the us of a, although it would be easier for the male than the female,,,

its not the average experience,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:29 PM



he doesn't seem too popular around here; what happened? As I recall he was considered, both inside and outside the usa, to be el Salvador himself!



I guess its regional,,, I dont know where 'around here' is for you,, but he still remains highly popular 'around here'

with 'around here', I mean: this thread. And until now it seems you are the only one who favours him? But that can change any minute of course :)



I admit, with mostly white males posting in this thread, I am in the minority

OBAmas largest support base is females and blacks,, his lowest is white males,,,


demographics is an important factor when discussing 'popularity',,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:20 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 04/28/12 01:23 PM

he doesn't seem too popular around here; what happened? As I recall he was considered, both inside and outside the usa, to be el Salvador himself!



I guess its regional,,, I dont know where 'around here' is for you,, but he still remains highly popular 'around here'

its political too 85 percent of democrats still approve of the job he is doing,,,

demographics shows support in some groups and not in others,,,nothing unusual there really

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Sat 04/28/12 01:19 PM




According to his own words he is unpatriotic.



which words are those?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U



this one is good too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqKnVr3I9q8&feature=related



paraphrasing isnt quite the same as lying

brandeis quote ""Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman"


good luck defining 'pork barrel' or 'corporate welfare' in an absolute term to qualify or disqualify the statement,,,


as to exposing tax breaks and public meetings, those were unfulfilled, and most unlikely in the current political climate when they dont even want the names of contributors to campaigns and political advertising exposed,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 01:08 PM



According to his own words he is unpatriotic.



which words are those?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U



I think the context was comparing irresponsibility to patriotism, not debt,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 12:34 PM
not so fond of buildings,, but its a cool thread,,,,

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Sat 04/28/12 12:29 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 04/28/12 12:31 PM

I consider myself average and have family I could borrow 20 grand from if I needed to. In fact I had a cousin offering me that loan if I needed it a few mknths ago. I needed a new car for my job and since I was over seas and had no prior job in the Us recently some banks might nit offer a loan. I got a loan but the offer from the family was still available. I just rather do it myself.



the 'average' person cant borrow 20000 from their parents, if you can, that makes you above average,,,,

the average person doesnt have an extra twenty grand laying around

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