Reading this I'm not sure where he told anyone to borrow cash from their parents. take a shot, go for it, take a risk and get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents, start a business." |
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According to his own words he is unpatriotic. which words are those? |
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msharmony
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Or any of those folks who DARE talk about racism or race relations in AMerica,,,, 'creating' all that division that just wouldnt be there without them,,,,,,, ![]() ![]() I don't think thats a fair characterization of the anti-Sharpton sentiments. He doesn't just talk about race, he lies about it. He has built an entire career on fanning the flames of hatred. I don't mean to deny the value that he also offers - by giving a large and powerful voice to race issues, sometimes it seems to me that he is also doing some good. Does he have to sacrifice reason and integrity in order to be such a powerful voice? Could we have people reach the level of popular influence that sharpton has, while also being fair minded and reasonable? its a tiring gig, I have tried it,,, seems just mentioning race relations or racism puts people on a defensive where the very idea is old fashioned and no longer existent ,,,, |
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One mans civil rights activist is another man's race-baiter. Why do blacks riot and destroy their neighborhoods? lol why do whites riot and destroy their sporting events? neither were taught better methods of anger management or better ways to vent their emotions,,, Whites have an excuse, their drunk. I think looting and burning goes way beyond anger management issues. similarly, blacks drink too,, maybe thats their 'excuse',,,,? |
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MAn, is this dude out of touch with the average joe and jill....
The presumptive Republican presidential nominee noted that the nation's economy is recovering but blamed President Barack Obama for presiding over the "most anemic and tepid" comeback since the Great Depression. Continuing his recent focus on younger voters, Romney said Obama's policies are making it harder for college graduates to be successful. "This kind ofdivisiveness, this attack of success is very different than what we've seen in our country's history," Romney told students and supporters gathered at Otterbein University in central Ohio. "We've always encouraged young people – take a shot, go for it, take a risk and get the education, borrow money if you have to from your parents, start a business." Romney then shared the story of sandwich magnate Jimmy John, who Romney said borrowed $20,000 from his parents to launch his first sandwich shop. "This is kind of an American experience," he said of John's story. Romney's call for "economic freedom" was a familiar theme for the former Massachusetts governor, who faced the public for the first time since declaring himself the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting earlier in the week. But some Democrats said his suggestion that young people borrow thousands of dollars from their parents shows that he's out of touch with ordinary Americans. "Only someone who paid for college by selling stock given to him by his CEO father would just casually assume students could go borrow $20,000 from their parents to deal with the economic challenges they face," said Joshua Dorner, a spokesman for the Center for American Progress Action Fund. In an interview with the Boston Globe in 1994, Ann Romney said her husband sold off stock that his father had bought for him so that they had money to live on as married college students. read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/28/mitt-romney-economic-advice_n_1461541.html |
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What was said is that religions are not peaceful or violent, PEOPLE Then you must agree with me that Obama should not have said that Islam is a peaceful religion. According to your own reasoning that is just not true. it is not factual because religion is not violent or peaceful yes to be semantically and grammatically accurate he should have said 'the overwhelming majority of muslims are peaceful people',,,, being that american english isnt known for its accuracy and has so many ways to use terms, I understand the statement to be countering the idea of islam as a religion of violence but I believe both are incorrect,,,, |
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there is no specific mention of muslims in the bible anymore than the quran specifically mentions christians, but, My goodness, you are far off-track now. Of course there is no mentioning in the Bible of muslims. Do I really need to explain? And you can definitely read a lot about christians (and jews) in the qur'an; and it aint pretty... 'christian' is a modern term that would not have been used in the QUran,,,need I explain? there is reference to 'people of the book' and even then, there is no reference concerning 'people of the book' which commands anyone 'to lay in wait to kill' them..... the references to killing are almost all about INFIDELS,,no specific religious affiliation,,, and almost always can be understood to be in context of SELF DEFENSE |
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why choose the interpretation that islam is not peaceful, when numerically speaking,,,the percentages of proven violent muslims out of the numbers on the earth, are probably pretty much in line with the percentage of proven violent CHRISTIANS? ah, okay! I go with you; so, let's just say that all religions are peaceful, period. Then we don't have to think about it anymore, because there just isn't any problem! I didn't go to Harvard, but I think I can follow that logic. noone said all religions are peaceful period. What was said is that religions are not peaceful or violent, PEOPLE ARE. and when people study religions they take from it either the peaceful or violent parts to adhere to as religion most often has BOTH these attributes within its books,,,, |
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I agree, it's all about interpretation. So why chooses Obama the interpretation that the Islam is so peaceful? While there is abundant proof that the opposite interpretation is very lively among followers to say the least? why choose the interpretation that islam is not peaceful, when numerically speaking,,,the percentages of proven violent muslims out of the numbers on the earth, are probably pretty much in line with the percentage of proven violent CHRISTIANS? (Although, we dont tend to have ones 'christianity' be the highlight of the news when they are violent,,) You have any numbers to back up that claim? as of 2009, 1 in 4 people on earth are muslim close to 1.6 billion people compared to 2.1 billion christians |
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What was Obama’s grade average before they were upgraded? Where in the bible does anybody tell Christians to lay in wait to kill Muslims were they upgraded before or after he graduated MAGNA CUM LAUDE (a term which is COMPARATIVE to all other students) ? there is no specific mention of muslims in the bible anymore than the quran specifically mentions christians, but, 1Then Samuel said to Saul, "The LORD sent me to anoint you as king over His people, over Israel; now therefore, listen to the words of the LORD. 2"Thus says the LORD of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. 3 'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.'" |
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Many would disagree that God is a myth. If that is your belief that is fine. But stop pretending it is a stayement of fact. There is no basis for that belief exceptactually having that belief. Just like those who believe in god should stop pretending it's a fact he exists? Most Christians state it as a belief. Even look at the Catholic Churches creed. The first line is. I BELIEVE IN one God. Right there it says believe. That is why it's called faith. Because if you knew for sure then you couldn't have faith. faith and fact are opposites... saying there are bears in the woods is a fact, saying there are dragons is faith... just because someone believes something doesn't make it a fact... you argued that in the 911 treads... faith and fact are not opposites,, I have faith my dad is my dad but I never had a dna test to PROVE it. THAt has nothing to do with whether a dna test would indeed prove my belief to be true. people can have faith in many things and some may turn out to be factual and some may not. ummm... if you have faith that your dad is your father, then you don't know.... not a fact... Did you see the definition of fact I put? A fact is something which can be proven. Just because you don't know your father is truly your father doesn't mean it isn't a fact. For example. A child may not know the sun is at the center of our solar system but it is still a fact. It us important to know this definition as politicians will use it. You have seen candidates running commercials saying Fact.... about the other candidate. They can give false information but ad long as that information can be disproven it is still a fact. As a fact doesn't have to be true in these sense. if its not true, its not a fact,, but the term is often inappropriately used in advertising, both political and otherwise,,,, |
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IF U LOVE SOMEONE
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If you truly love someone, then the only thing you want for them is to be happy....even if its not with you simple and true especially the 'even if its not with you' part thats the strength of letting go of a relationship where the other person is miserable or unfulfilled,,,knowing they arent happy or fulfilled WITH YOU and letting them or even making them move on,,, |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html on the other hand....psychology isn't a real science. ![]() lol,,,,pretty much but its an interesting trial and error, study and survey, profession,,,, |
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I think I get what you're saying...DNA does not make your dad your dad, the relationship the two of you share is what makes him your dad....However DNA does determine if he is in "fact" your biological father...... I thought MsHarmony was saying that facts are true whether are not we personally have evidence to support the fact. I thought her point was that faith and facts are not opposites - indeed we must, every time we believe in something without evidence, have faith in it. And I feel that you, Leigh, are introducing a cool new semantic twist, which is: differentiating between an father defined by feelings and relationships, and father defined by genetics. ![]() this^ discovery doesnt make it fact, it being ACTUAL makes it a fact (before, during, and after its 'discovery') |
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I agree, it's all about interpretation. So why chooses Obama the interpretation that the Islam is so peaceful? While there is abundant proof that the opposite interpretation is very lively among followers to say the least? why choose the interpretation that islam is not peaceful, when numerically speaking,,,the percentages of proven violent muslims out of the numbers on the earth, are probably pretty much in line with the percentage of proven violent CHRISTIANS? (Although, we dont tend to have ones 'christianity' be the highlight of the news when they are violent,,) |
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A question of tolerance...
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few people are not 'tolerant' of religion or lack of religion people just have opinions about them we live in a country where there is no choice but to 'tolerate',,,basically So in essence if say I started a religion based on PURE hedonism, I mean an absolute desire of fulfilling personal self indulgences of any kind, and preach that in hedonism you can do no wrong. Now one of my faithful desires to murder and rape women, NO! Let's really up the stakes, likes to murder and rape little boys under 7 years old because their screaming makes him get off. Now lets say that because of religious tenant of hedonism that person has done nothing wrong and our church supports his actions. Now in normal society we would be aghast at someone doing something like this to someone. Worst and ultimately hypocritically that church would be branded a cult. Could you tolerate a religion where "Anything" goes? ESPECIALLY knowing that it could very well be you who something happens to next? How fine is the line between religion and cult? As far as I see it myself i see them both as very reflexive terms. It just matters on scale mostly. It is one thing to tolerate a person of Islamic heritage since all people can change. People are entitled to make mistakes as long as they don't harm one another BUT to blindly accept a faith who preaches the core values that Islam does? I am not a big fan of "Agape" or blind tolerance of anything. Would Christianity be less tolerable if it preached subjugation and murder? Lying cheating and stealing from anyone of any faith is wrong by Christian standards but does Islam draw the same moral lines? If you say yes I am going to dump a lot of passages from the Quaran on you that say otherwise. So are you confusing tolerance for a person or tolerance for a faith practice? re posted for clarity few people are not 'tolerant' of religion or lack of religion people just have opinions about them we live in a country where there is no choice but to 'tolerate',,,basically when talking BELIEFS, which is how I understand the context of religion, I feel few people have a choice but to be tolerant of others beliefs when it comes to ACTIONS, which I see as a seperate issue from religion, we only have to be as 'tolerant' as the constitution and the law declares,,,, mans law trumps beliefs or personal choice,,,,,, But again "WHAT IF THE RELIGION ITSELF PREACHES VIOLENCE AND INTOLERANCE?" Why MUST we tolerate it? Some ignorant Liberal Tree Hugging Peace Fag says so? Or some religious character preaching peace and love says so? (I KNOW someone is going to be offended by the term Peace Fag. TOUGH COOKIES! I am not disparaging homosexuals at all. I am however disparaging those who refuse to acknowledge the fact we MUST get violent at times to protect our own from harm. I personally PREFER peace but I am not so QUEER over it that I will try to ram peace down every throat like some of these JERKS who assume everything can be achieved through diplomacy! If words hurt you you have NO SPINE! But then again noting the debate style of others this should be more like a mirror mirror moment for them.) My issue is why we are forced to tolerate intolerance. Just because people are normally peaceful means nothing when the religion they observe preaches violence and hate. How many religions preach making war on others besides Islam? religion doesnt preach, people do religions arent exclusively peaceful or violent, people take from them what they will subjectively and personally we dont 'tolerate' a religion, we tolerate what people do and say,, and people will subjectively take from a 'religion' different things because there are many words in those books to be interpreted and as you yourself say 'If words hurt you you have NO SPINE!' its actions that are tolerable or intolerable, with or without religion,,, |
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Harvard Law? Impressive! But that doesn't keep him from calling the Islam a 'religion of peace'. So magna cum laude or not: even the brightest people can still be blind. Well, what do I care: he is your president - not mine people argue that God isnt a loving God too,, doesnt make it true Islam is a religion of peace for many who take the context of the quran that way,,,, just interpretative difference, |
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Isn't Obama that guy who bowed, very deeply, to a Saoedi king? yep,, and the one who graduated Harvard Law Magna Cum Laude oversaw the end of bin Laden and sings 'lets stay together', as if he knows something about ocmmon folks like me,,,, |
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Barry admits to being Muslim
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this one again huh,,,?
just wont die,, the youtube reality ,,,,,snippets and editing defining the world,,, kind of scary,,, |
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ROCKS....
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