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Fri 04/27/12 09:53 AM
I was going to post this. Thank you.

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Fri 04/27/12 12:47 AM
maybe when he is Cheech and Chongs age,, but for now, (like the younger cheech and chong)it seems like the pot is pretty central to the image that earns his income,,

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Fri 04/27/12 12:45 AM






am I taking CRAZY PILLS? seriously

let me repost the significant difference once more


An black 18-year-old suspected of a violent attack on a white teen told Chicago police the beating was motivated by his anger over the Trayvon Martin case in Florida, MyFoxChicago reports.

Alton Hayes III was charged with a hate crime after he and a 15-year-old attacked the 19-year-old man at about 1:00 a.m. on April 17 in Oak Park, a Chicago suburb.

...ASSUMING he was just charged today,,,

the person is not DEAD
and the charge took all of nine days to bring forth,,,,


REPEAT,,, noone was KILLED
and someone was held ACCOUNTABLE for the harm that was done rather expediently,,,


I know. It is so terrible when any type of violence is motivated by racism. I am sure that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be on this immediately.



its not the motivation that caused the support and uproar it was the ABSENCE of action on the crime,,,,,




The hell it is. A black person could stub their toe and good ol' Jessie and Al will be all over it.



obviously , they would be quite overworked if that were true

they have and always will be 'all over' issues that are close to them in some way

just as lp officers can sometimes be all over the 'thugs' they are so expert at identifying as well as what the solution should be for handling them,,,


You obviously have NO CLUE what Loss Prevention Agents do or what their job is if you think it's all about catching shoplifters. That is just PART of what we do.



when did I mention shoplifters?,,,,,interesting....

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Fri 04/27/12 12:33 AM






Dershowitz said she was obligated to include any and all pertinent evidence.

Im not sure what law this person studied or what documents he was privy to being not on the case, but this is BLATANTLY false in regards to bringing charges

'all' the evidence does not have to be included in the initial filing,,

I am confident an actual CURRENT PROSECUTOR AND JUDGE are aware of the mandates,,,,,law professor or not,,


So you know more then an accomplished attorney? Interesting.


the piece says he is a LAW PROFESSOR (used to be attorney)

it would be interesting if he knew more than a CURRENT sitting judge and prosecutor...


He still is admitted to the bar and the Supreme Court. Maybe you should look at a couple of the cases he won including a huge case that was adapted into a major motion picture.


last one I found was in 1984...(unless you count his counsel to OJ in 1995) as I said

the CURRENT legal representatives of Florida probably are more aware of Florida mandates than a Harvard Law Professor


So your saying a Harvard Law Professor doesn't know what he's talking about? Becareful your talking about the same law school taught by the same people that your savior attended.

Oh yeah, he was counsel on a case in 2006 for Jeffrey Epstein on a major sex offense case that got bumped down to a single BS count. The guy knows what he is doing and what he is talking about.



what case has he won in FLORIDA in the past ten years?

Im saying a law professor who has not worked in Florida law, or as an actual lawyer(as opposed to a counsel to the lawyers) in over a decade, probably doesnt know as much about what the Florida courts require as a sitting Florida judge,,,and prosecutor,,,

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Fri 04/27/12 12:14 AM




Dershowitz said she was obligated to include any and all pertinent evidence.

Im not sure what law this person studied or what documents he was privy to being not on the case, but this is BLATANTLY false in regards to bringing charges

'all' the evidence does not have to be included in the initial filing,,

I am confident an actual CURRENT PROSECUTOR AND JUDGE are aware of the mandates,,,,,law professor or not,,


So you know more then an accomplished attorney? Interesting.


the piece says he is a LAW PROFESSOR (used to be attorney)

it would be interesting if he knew more than a CURRENT sitting judge and prosecutor...


He still is admitted to the bar and the Supreme Court. Maybe you should look at a couple of the cases he won including a huge case that was adapted into a major motion picture.


last one I found was in 1984...(unless you count his counsel to OJ in 1995) as I said

the CURRENT legal representatives of Florida probably are more aware of Florida mandates than a Harvard Law Professor

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Fri 04/27/12 12:03 AM

I think often when christians speak out against HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE, its equated with being less than nice to homosexuals


It’s not the words alone that are equated to hostility but the actions that accompany the oral sentiments.

The “don’t say gay” legislation that threaten the existence of straight-gay alliances in schools and would forbid any kind of sex education that could be construed as addressing the “HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE” specifically with regards to safe sex.

And more legislation that would prohibit the recognition of any kind of domestic relationship other than heterosexual marriage. Such attempts have one goal, to restrict recognition of those involved in the “HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE”. Unfortunately the same legislation would not recognize single parent households, unmarried couples with or without children or any other form of domestic cohabitation, gender identity not-withstanding.

So intense is the religous homophobia that attempts to exclude it must also punish those who identify as heterosexual.

Then there are those who continue to insist that some quasi-psychological treatment along with some Bible study will help homosexuals to “pray-away-the-gay” at the same time those who practice their pseudoscience, are ignoring the actual damage they inflict by their homophobia.

And then there is the would-be legislation that would prohibit gays & lesbians from raising children – even their own.

Not ONE of those – or of many more – would exist were it not for the millions of Christians who believe as they do.

On the other hand, there are many who live the “HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE” who are also Christian – to them I apologize because they are disadvantaged two-fold, not only must they explain why Christian values do not have to be that irrational, but they must also fight against those irrational views.

and often when atheist speak out against how irrational they believe certain christian claims to be, its equated with being less than tolerant or nice to christians


Once again there is an assumption that the source of conflict stems from words – without acknowledging the actions that accompany those words.

Here again we can look at the types of legislation that a great number of Christians support.

Bullying is ok, as long as there is a religious reason behind it – which also happens to be the view that is taken to deny schools the ability to incorporate programs that would prevent bullying. Such programs – of course- would have to create a climate of inclusion, in part, by teaching about gays & lesbians in history, or in current events, as real people of value and importance.

,,it happens across the board, you hear about it more from christians because they gather in ORGANIZED groups which are easily observable,, where as atheists are much less likely to have such organization or publicity or visibility


Actually, it’s not the visibility that is most noticeable, but the irrational behaviors. In addition to what I’ve already posted,
there are those who continue attempts to pass legislation that would either prohibit the teaching of evolution (and other sciences) unless there were a more “balanced” view to include some form of creationist view.

There are issues about abortion, specifically kept alive through Christian beliefs, and now there has been proposed legislation that would count a woman’s pregnancy from the day after her last period – which could make her pregnant even before she had sex.

And the legislation that attempts to attribute personhood, with full legal human rights, to a zygote.

And there are many Christians, including some very powerful figures, who maintain that climate change is a hoax, simply because their study of the Bible suggests that God would not allow humans to destroy His cherished creations.

And the legislation that would make it a felony for a woman to do anything that would harm her unborn child, meaning that any miscarriage or stillbirth would require investigation. And, it would certainly have to make the morning after pill illegal – wouldn’t it.

Even more irrational is the fact that the same people trying to adopt such legislation, also support corporations like Monsanto, Dupont, and continue to allow carcinogens, toxins, and other chemicals in the products that no doubt cause miscarriages, congenetal disease, and cancers and other birth defects.

And there is legislation that would make all abortion illegal, without regard to safety or health of either mother or the unborn.

AND THEN, there is the even more irrational – abortion would be illegal, except to save the mother.
That’s pretty darn irrational considering previous ideas of pre-sex pregnancies and zygote personhood.

I can only apologize that such people ever find their way into power – but they didn’t get there unsupported.

Tolerance and even acceptance is always easier to extend when there are grand scale measures of inclusiveness and less likely to occur when words take shape through behaviors intended to exclude.



alot here but I will try to address how common these issues are to both sides

1. as a christian, I may not even want a school teaching my kid about sex in the first place, in which case I can choose (like an atheist) to opt out and teach them what I want, how I want to, at home.

my personal view is that sex education does not have to include information on EVERY variation of sex, it only needs to explain how to not catch disease or where babies come from, , there is no NEED to address it as homosexual because the parts are the same regardless of the relationship,,MALE FEMALE,,,Vaginal or ANAL or oral,,,,

bringing sexual preference into it only forces parents children to be exposed to things which they may have no other reason to be exposed to,,,,children, regardless of sexual preference, do well to know where babies come from and know about the PARTS of the male or female human body.

I see it as more shoving sexual preference down impressionable kids throats to insist that homosexual be mentioned in a sex education class. Sex, Male , and Female along with the anatomy is really all thats relevant and common to EVERYONE.

2. The law doesnt forbid me from any relation I want. The law also does nothing to promote or encourage me to make the CHOICE to raise a child without a father, or to marry someone with the same parentage, than it promotes the choice of a homosexual to raise children with only one gender to guide them or to marry someone with the same anatomy.


I dont feel 'punished' because the law doesnt see my situation with EXACTLY the same privileges (or responsibilities) as those who have committed to each other before creating and raising a child together. THat is something that should continue to be encouraged as the most IDEAL gift we can give children for their foundation in a growingly complicated world.

3. As a christian, I can be prevented from raising my child if the other parent has more money or more resources because of the 'balance' that culture has legislated as expected or healthy for a child, much like the balance of mother and father that culture determines to be healthy for a child is often argued to try to deny homosexual pairings form raising children.

I dont agree with preventing people by law from raising there children for any reason but abuse. Im sure many atheists agree with me. Im also equally sure that there are many atheists who also arent too supportive of the idea of father father child rearing or mother mother child rearing. Although those who would oppose a biological parents right to raise a child must be the extreme on either side.

4. As a christian, it troubles me that people try to force the notion that humans are 'unchangable' in any character trait, tendency, preference or whatever, the same way it troubles non christians when the notion is forced that things like homosexuality CAN indeed be changed.

I believe before there were millions of christians, before there was a bible, there were people who believed those things or they would never have written them down. I believe its false logic to assume those particular objections are the effect of religion in isolation as opposed to culture, environment, and any other number of factors that help build an individuals 'values' as they grow and experience life. WE never hear people 'blame' christians for legislation against murder even though its a pretty specific CHRISTIAN doctrine. BUt people often 'blame' christians for any other restrictive legislation if they are able to find it anywhere in a bible. As if people would not possibly hold those values and opinions without religion.

5.As a christian, I often wonder why history only teaches about the 'good stuff' our founders achieved and doesnt mention any of their less than desirable actions or behaviors, to the point where they are REVERED even though they were no more or less flawed than any other person. I dont know that history really deals in sexual preference even of heterosexuals unless to mention whom someone was married to, nor do I understand what sexual preference would have to do with studying achievements.

Who a person is is not wrapped up in their sexual preference or their dietary preference or their taste in music. Giving people credit in history for their accomplishments does not require wrapping their identity up in those labels anymore than sexual preference has anything to do with what one has accomplished, unlike race or gender which are harder to hide 'in a closet' so to speak and out in the open for all to see and put obstacles up against. ANd bulling also doesnt require going into peoples preferences. Bullying is about behavior, it only needs to be addressed as an unhealthy and unfavorable behavior. The root cause of bullying is 'difference' of any type and that covers all subcategories of the bullied like smart kids, poor kids, fat kids, homeless kids, homosexual kids,,etc. ITs universal enough without making it ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY.

6. Behavior has to be visible to determine that its 'irrational'. Christians are highly exposed. What atheists do doesnt have quite the same open exposure. How often do you hear a news piece where they even mention someones affiliation with religion UNLESS they are religious? All those times its not mentioned at all, its possible those people are atheists but it isnt CALLED OUT in the same manner as it is for 'religious'.


in any case,, my point was only to say that we are all flawed, and we could all do to be more aware of whether we are addressing behaviors or just insulting humans,,,whatever our beliefs,,,



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Thu 04/26/12 11:16 PM

Maybe you guys should go beat up some queers.

It certainly makes the religious and political people happy....

Just saying that it is an option.



terrible option

there is actually a term for that which is disgusting but I dont remember it,, I remember in camp a few guys (none of which were particularly religious as I remember) stood up in a meeting to actually say they were going to go out that night and hunt for homosexuals,,,,,


,I think decent people anywhere would find that behavior disgusting, whatever their religious or non religious beliefs,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 11:07 PM


Dershowitz said she was obligated to include any and all pertinent evidence.

Im not sure what law this person studied or what documents he was privy to being not on the case, but this is BLATANTLY false in regards to bringing charges

'all' the evidence does not have to be included in the initial filing,,

I am confident an actual CURRENT PROSECUTOR AND JUDGE are aware of the mandates,,,,,law professor or not,,


So you know more then an accomplished attorney? Interesting.


the piece says he is a LAW PROFESSOR (used to be attorney)

it would be interesting if he knew more than a CURRENT sitting judge and prosecutor...

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Thu 04/26/12 11:06 PM




am I taking CRAZY PILLS? seriously

let me repost the significant difference once more


An black 18-year-old suspected of a violent attack on a white teen told Chicago police the beating was motivated by his anger over the Trayvon Martin case in Florida, MyFoxChicago reports.

Alton Hayes III was charged with a hate crime after he and a 15-year-old attacked the 19-year-old man at about 1:00 a.m. on April 17 in Oak Park, a Chicago suburb.

...ASSUMING he was just charged today,,,

the person is not DEAD
and the charge took all of nine days to bring forth,,,,


REPEAT,,, noone was KILLED
and someone was held ACCOUNTABLE for the harm that was done rather expediently,,,


I know. It is so terrible when any type of violence is motivated by racism. I am sure that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson will be on this immediately.



its not the motivation that caused the support and uproar it was the ABSENCE of action on the crime,,,,,




The hell it is. A black person could stub their toe and good ol' Jessie and Al will be all over it.



obviously , they would be quite overworked if that were true

they have and always will be 'all over' issues that are close to them in some way

just as lp officers can sometimes be all over the 'thugs' they are so expert at identifying as well as what the solution should be for handling them,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 09:47 PM








Yep, just like the individual mandate in Owe-Bummercare...pay or go to jail!



but they arent collecting that while you are getting medical care

just like the taxes they use towards the roads arent colllected by people stopping you on your way to work and 'collecting' it,,,


You're right.... They don't wait for you to go to the hospital, or even care if you ever have to.... just pay or go to jail!


yep, and they dont wait for you to drive or have kids to pay those taxes that go to roads and schools, ,,,just dont pay your taxes and go to jail,,,,!!


you sure seem to like this dictatorship barry has thrown at us... hope it works out for you, because it is not working for the rest of us...


I havent witnessed any more of a 'dictatorship' than with any other president in my lifetime,, congress is running things as they mostly have and this president actually vetos less of those decisions than most,,,,


ok, so barry is letting congress do what they want... he is not a very good leader then....



cant please everyone

if he fought with them they would say he dictates
and if he doesnt fight they say he isnt leading


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Thu 04/26/12 08:21 PM


Fed taxes on "individuals" were never legal... The IRS, and the FED only came into being after the great Jeckyl Island retreat.

The Fed reserve act of 1913 was the biggest blunder of the Wilson presidency, and he later made an apology to the American people for what he had just done to them!

The 16th amendment was rushed thru congress while many were on holiday vacation, and NEVER ratified by a majority.... but our gov't obviously doesn't care, or wish to FIX it! Ron Paul does!

"The monster from Jekyl Island"..... good reading!

I fought for this country, and its people.....not the people running it! I'm not about to "leave" it to the death throws brought on by the last few, or the current, administrations!

What part of "unconstitutional" (personal mandate) on a federal level are you not getting?


the part where we pick and choose which parts of the actual constition are 'constitutional',,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 08:18 PM






Yep, just like the individual mandate in Owe-Bummercare...pay or go to jail!



but they arent collecting that while you are getting medical care

just like the taxes they use towards the roads arent colllected by people stopping you on your way to work and 'collecting' it,,,


You're right.... They don't wait for you to go to the hospital, or even care if you ever have to.... just pay or go to jail!


yep, and they dont wait for you to drive or have kids to pay those taxes that go to roads and schools, ,,,just dont pay your taxes and go to jail,,,,!!


you sure seem to like this dictatorship barry has thrown at us... hope it works out for you, because it is not working for the rest of us...


I havent witnessed any more of a 'dictatorship' than with any other president in my lifetime,, congress is running things as they mostly have and this president actually vetos less of those decisions than most,,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 02:30 PM
Well said. Facebook gets me too, how people dont understand that stuff goes PUBLIC for everyone to have free access to,,,,,


and even employers use it, although I disagree with the practice personally, because there is no assumption of 'privacy' once you post something in a public forum or do or say something in a public setting,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 02:15 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/26/12 02:18 PM

I hope this one works http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061127350&srvc=rss it was an article just on yahoo i mean for all those to say that well to me is wrong an its giving all of us here in Boston a bad name now i think


hey sneaks,,,when you want to make it a link type

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?


you need the word url inside of [ ] at the beginning of the web address and the word /url inside of [ ] at the end of the web address

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Thu 04/26/12 02:13 PM



Off topic, but it always makes me laugh when people fix links for others. It isn't hard to copy and paste ;). Or if you use firefox, all you need to do is highlight, right click and open in new tab.



The admin should create a sticky for threads such as the BBC Codes.


They already have. http://mingle2.com/topic/show/199646 :wink:

I was just pointing out that one does not need to create a clickable url for people to easily get to it. It's a nice feature, but not required.



alot of people are less computer savvy than we think. The link is the easiest way for such people to view something,,


many really dont know the other options

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Thu 04/26/12 02:05 PM

Those are state taxes.... don't like them, move....NOT a federal mandate!



and the same holds true with fed taxes, dont like them,, move,,,,



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Thu 04/26/12 01:44 PM
Is privacy about what we wish to share or what we dont wish to be shared with us?


I see a dichotomy in our culture where so many are talking about how government should stay out of our 'private' lives, but at the same time there seems to be this big push to make people accept anything and everything others may wish to do or say in public

should nudity be private?
should sexual activity be private?
should relieving oneself be private?

how do we , as a society, find the balance between allowing people their right to privacy without completely trampling on peoples ability to have some security about what environment they will have their children in?

I know I am fine with heterosexual pda of the old fashioned kind. Gentle pecks, holding hands, hugging, but I dont care for my c hildren to be exposed to two people virtually making out with their clothes on.

I am fine with comfortable dress, but I dont care to see peoples butt cracks because their pants are too tight to cover them up if they sit or bend


how much should my 'comfort' be permitted to step on the toes of the next persons,,,?

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Thu 04/26/12 01:12 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/26/12 01:13 PM


After reading the signs, a gay man ran up to one of the Christians and grabbed him, squeezing so hard he had trouble breathing.

http://www.practikel.com/2012/01/27/christian-group-shows-up-to-chicago-gay-pride-holding-apologetic-signs/




thats a line gays don't need to cross with me... i can't think of any reason i would want a gay man to hug me....


I have hugged a few 'gays', my brother is gay and many of his friends have been like family,,,,I also have other gay family members whom I love dearly,,,and Im a hugger,,,lol

however, there is no reason I want a man outside in nothing but underwear (or a woman for that matter) to come up and hug me,,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 01:10 PM



Hey Massagetrade; you are spot on. I am an aethist myself and don't hate Christians; just hate when they try to shove religion down my throat or when they try to dictate to others what they can do. Religion should be your own personal choice and not forced on others.


I think thats a common experience that christians and atheists could unite upon actually. As a christian, I sometimes feel that homosexuality is 'shoved' down my throat and dictated as a norm that I must accept or be labeled as homophobic, intolerant, bigoted,,etc,,,


I see promiscuity, violence, homosexuality, unwed parenting, vulgarity peppered throughout media and culture MUCH MUCH more than I do any of my christian beliefs,,,,and it upsets me too

but we have to find a way to allow a balance of these things without having to demonize one another to do so...


Honestly the only time I feel anything shoved down my throat is when a Christian is at my door preaching to me and I have repeatedly told them I am not interested. I either have to threaten with violence or calling the police as I don't like people harassing me in my home. I have even put up signs saying no religous solicitating. I doubt very much someone came to your door and shoved homosexuality down your throat. The Christians demanded a city bus remove a sign that said "There is no God, so just live your life happy". The city told them they are free to put up their own advertising but had no right to dictate to this group that they weren't allowed to put up their sign. That was a very proud moment for our city.



I would take an occasional shove at my door that I can not answer or turn away, than the constant bombardment in media advertising and television,,,personally.

But my point was just that , beliefs aside, the common feeling of being bombarded by the pressure to accept what we dont believe is felt on both sides and that commonality could be a place to start building bridges and finding balance,,,

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Thu 04/26/12 01:01 PM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 04/26/12 01:02 PM

Hey Massagetrade; you are spot on. I am an aethist myself and don't hate Christians; just hate when they try to shove religion down my throat or when they try to dictate to others what they can do. Religion should be your own personal choice and not forced on others.


I think thats a common experience that christians and atheists could unite upon actually. As a christian, I sometimes feel that homosexuality and 'self centered' culture, is 'shoved' down my throat and dictated as a norm that I must accept or be labeled as homophobic, intolerant, bigoted,,etc,,,


I see promiscuity, violence, homosexuality, unwed parenting, vulgarity peppered throughout media and culture MUCH MUCH more than I do any of my christian beliefs,,,,and it upsets me too

but we have to find a way to allow a balance of these things without having to demonize one another to do so...

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